Borussia Dortmund

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  1. darkvoid

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    lol had to bite my tongue with that onelol

    Just so many....
     
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  2. Livvy

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    "Dortmund player Marco Reus passed his driving test after being stopped by police in 2014 for having a fake Dutch drivers license. [wst]"

    well, at least he has used his injury time to do something useful :J
     
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  3. Rattlesnake888

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    :celebrating::celebrating::celebrating::celebrating:
     
  4. Dortmund fan

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    Goal for Dortmund!

    By the way, Schürle and Aubameyang in the same squad - this combination looks funny.
     
  5. Dortmund fan

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  6. The Elusive 19th

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    Genuine question... You see players like Messi, Suarez, Cou, etc adding new strings to thier bow like free kicka,etc... Do you really see Sahin and Kagawa improving? To an outsider like me - both their move to Madrid and manure came too early... and they both have stagnated while others around them improved.
     
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  7. Nur der BvB09

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    I do Hate fckingMario and Tuchel Decision to bring him back feels the same as "spucken und ablecken"!
    BvB are what they are because of attitudes like honour n proud are very apreciated same as By LFC !!!
    Fight Spirit and give everything for the Club that's what Makes a player By BvB and I do Hope By LFC too not just come to see where you do Go a couple of years later ( like the Likes of MariofeckingGoetze)!Moneybitc_ hes like him are lots of and they ll neverever have my respect!
     
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  8. Dortmund fan

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  9. Zoran

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    Emre Mor looks a real talent, was Turkey's most dangerous player tonight in a 1-1 draw (bit of an escape for his team) against Croatia.
     
  10. Dortmund fan

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    A terrible knee injury. :-(

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  11. Prolix

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    Didn't need to see that...
     
  12. norwegian wood

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    Should maybe put a spoiler thingy on that. Maybe not everyone who feel like seeing nasty injuries.
     
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  13. Dortmund fan

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    Dortmund are the masters of the transfer window

    Borussia Dortmund have once again shown they are the leaders of the transfer window despite having nowhere the financial resources of their European competitors.


    Transfer windows are hard. Sometimes you can buy a midfielder who was just named man of the match in the UEFA Champions League Final thinking he'll lead you to glory for the next five years only to sell him the next season for an $18 million loss. That's what Manchester United did with Angel Di Maria.

    Barcelona and Pep Guardiola have thoroughly dominated the last eight years of European football, but even they spent $68 million and threw in their top goalscorer, Samuel Eto'o, to buy Zlatan Ibrahimovic only to sell him on to AC Milan a season later for $44 million.

    Chelsea paid an incredible $86 million for Fernando Torres in 2011. 20 Premier League goals in 110 matches later, they sold him for $4 million.

    Liverpool got the better end of the deal, right? Well yeah, but they spent $60 million of that on Andy Carroll. He scored six times in the Premier League in 44 matches. They sold him for $25.78 million.

    Even when the Reds picked up Luis Suarez for what would prove to be bargain $39 million in 2011 and then sold him for $82 million in 2014, they didn't quite get in right. Using the money to replace Suarez with Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren, Mario Balotelli, Alberto Moreno and Lazar Markovic.

    Quality often beats quantity when you're only allowed 11 players on the field at one time.

    Real Madrid have spent $1.38 billion on new players in the last eight years, and only have one league title to show for it.

    Madrid's spending over the years has been so bizarre even the great Alfredo Di Stefano couldn't hide his stupefaction when Julien Faubert arrived in 2009.

    If their fax machine had worked, it might have been more.

    Even Arsene 'never spends any money' Wenger spends a lot of money. $633 million on incoming players since 2011.

    Manchester United proudly declared they had brought Paul Pogba back 'home' when they signed him in August. Even if it cost them a world record $155 million. They were happy for him to leave 'home' for free just four years earlier. And no United fans, Ibrahimovic's shirt sales did not pay for any of it.

    All these clubs despite huge networks of scouts, analysts and incredible wealth seem to make mistakes constantly.

    And then there is Borussia Dortmund who season after season seem to use the transfer window to it's maximum advantage.

    More or less depending on the financial realities clubs have three priorities:

    1. Hold on to your best players.
    2. If you must sell, sell high.
    3. Buy quality players, preferably young (so they will have either long futures at your club or can be sold-on for a large amount of money).

    Hold on to your best players:


    Dortmund are always going to struggle with this. They don't have the money to compete financially with the big two in Spain, the top eight English clubs or even Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga.

    Here are just some of the players that have left in the past few seasons; Robert Lewandowski, Mario Gotze, Shinji Kagawa and Nuri Sahin.

    Lewandowski was the most painful as he left on a free transfer in 2014 to main rivals Bayern Munich.

    Let's start with the positives; they've kept (despite interest from Real Madrid, Arsenal and Liverpool) both Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Marco Reus.

    Between them they scored 62 goals and created 20 assists last season.

    The fact that clubs were willing to pay well over market value for strikers - see Juventus' $132M purchase of Gonzalo Higuain - this is very impressive.

    However it wasn't all good news as Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Mats Hummels and Ilkay Gundogan all left.

    And what could Dortmund do? City, United and Bayern were offering a huge increase in wages and all three of those players were on the final year of their contracts. Meaning they would be available to leave on a free transfer in 12 months time.

    Which brings up to priority two.

    If you must sell, sell high:

    Often people confuse the value of a player with what a club ends up paying for them. The price of a player is very much tied to how many years they are contracted to their current club.

    For example Pogba was contracted to Juventus until 2019. Meaning had Juventus not want to sell him, it would be three seasons before he would be able to walk away on a free transfer. United had to pay over the odds if they were to get Pogba.

    Mesut Ozil was a contrary example in 2010. The star young player at the 2010 World Cup, all of Europe's top clubs were after him by the end of the tournament.

    Entering the last year of his contract at Werder Bremen, Real Madrid were able to pick him up for a relative steal at $26 million.

    To put that in perspective Mario Balotelli and James Milner both went to Manchester City the same year for $44 million each.

    So the fact that Mkhitaryan, Hummels and Gundogan were all entering the final year of their contracts and were sold for a combined $153 million is incredible.

    Three incredible players who no doubt Dortmund would have preferred to hang on to, but like any smart business they realised the financial realities and made the most of it.

    That allowed them to execute priority three.

    Buy quality players, preferably young:

    Dortmund took that $153 million and bought eight players. All of them 25 or under.

    They brought in Andre Schurrle to give them extra speed (which is frightening) and quality up front. The former Chelsea winger is a proven threat in the Bundesliga, scoring 48 goals and creating 31 assists in 175 matches.

    24-year-old Mario Gotze is back to the club that produced him, and while he's struggled for game time his quality is undeniable. Both Gotze and Schurrle are replacements for Mkhitaryan who produced a ridiculous 23 goals and 32 assists last season.

    The x-factor, and potentially bargain of the window, might be 19-year-old Ousmane Dembélé who cost $22 million.

    The right-winger ripped apart Manchester United, and Marcos Rojo in particular, during a pre-season match.

    After he made his Bundesliga debut against Mainz, his opponents couldn't help but heap praise on him.

    If this continues, either he'll have an incredible career with Dortmund or they'll be able to at least sell him for an incredible amount.

    Sebastian Rode, 25, Raphael Guerreiro, 22, and Marc Bartra, 25, all bring experience despite their young age. Rode, a defensive midfielder who will add stability in the absence of Gundogan, has been with Bayern the last two seasons where he played 52 matches.

    Bartra, a centre-back who will replace Hummels, has been at Barcelona where he played 103 matches, winning two Champions Leagues and five La Liga titles.

    And Guerreiro was a key part of Portugal's recent triumph at EURO 2016. The left-back possess an incredible free-kick ability as well, making him a threat going forward as well as strengthening the defence.

    All of this business, and there was a lot of it, was done well before the season started which meant new players will have a full pre-season to settle into the team. From a selling point of view, it means coach Thomas Tuchel knows exactly which players he'll have at his disposal.

    Now all this doesn't mean that Dortmund are automatically shoe-ins for any titles this season, but football at the highest level is about maximising every possible advantage.

    Dortmund have thrived in a complex and ever-changing transfer market, while bigger teams with more resources continue to make mistakes. This puts them in an incredible position to challenge the best clubs in Europe.

    http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/09/04/dortmund-are-masters-transfer-window

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  14. Hope in your heart

    Hope in your heart Loyalty and patience, two undervalued concepts... Admin

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    Yup, I put one in place now. Very nasty indeed...

    Edit: is this even real? Who is this player?
     
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  15. ShadesOfRed

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  16. Dortmund fan

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    Dortmund scouters are watching two young midfielders from RSC Anderlech.

    Youri Tielemans (19) und Leander Dedoncker (21).
    That's for the case if Pulisic will leave.
     
  17. Dortmund fan

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    Pulisic is Dortmund's youngest Champions League player ever.
     
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  19. norwegian wood

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    I really like what I've seen of this "new" Dortmund team. Aubameyang is the only big name player left from last season's team at the moment (Reus injured, I assume, and Kagawa on the bench), but they seem to have bought really well - and also used the summer well to integrate them. It'll be a fun team to follow this season, and hopefully the next few years.

    So many exciting players in this team, and a pretty balanced squad as well. The quality of Aubameyang, Götze, Reus, Weigl and Kagawa; plus the energy of Rode and Castro (really an excellent player, would be great in our midfield); and the talent of Pulisic, Dembele and Mor.

    Then there's Raphael Guerreiro. I thought he was primarily a left back, but Tuchel has apparently said he's too good a player to be pigeonholed like that. Last game he started in central midfield with Weigl and Götze, scoring the opener after making a nice run in behind and finishing well. And then he just scored a similar goal against Freiburg, after coming on as a sub. Very nice finish. Another player who adds to the flexibility of this Dortmund squad.

    Roman Bürki looks way more comfortable with the demands in the build-up now, by the way, compared to what I saw last season. Much more assured and decisive; moves the ball quicker and better.
     
  20. Dortmund fan

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    Borussia Dortmund aiming high, despite key player sales - Zorc

    Borussia Dortmund's targets for the new season have not changed, sporting director Michael Zorc says, despite the sales of some key figures during the close season.

    Mats Hummels, Ilkay Gundogan and Henrikh Mkhitaryan have departed but there have been plenty of new signings too with Raphael Guerreiro, Emre Mor, Marc Bartra, Ousmane Dembele and Sebastian Rode all arriving.

    Dortmund finished as runners-up in the Bundesliga and DFB-Pokal to Bayern Munich and reached the Europa League quarterfinals, and Zorc insists they will be aiming high again.

    "We want to do the best we possibly can and that has not changed a lot," Zorc told Sport1. "In each competition we are in, we want to go as far as possible. Borussia Dortmund are always going to be a club who sees themselves in the Champions League."

    Zorc also defended Dortmund's decision to allow some big names to depart, and pointed to the reinvestment in the squad as an important factor.

    "With the players who have left, we had to consider whether we should sell them now or let them go on a free next year," Zorc said. "We decided to let them go now, but we've brought in a couple of exciting players."

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  21. DrSnuggles

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    did you like paulo sousa?
     
  22. Zoran

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    Looking forward to their game tonight, hope they trash Real with this new youth, creativity, energy, pace and goals.
     
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    Caught the Leverkusen v BVB match. Firstly, sorry to see Dortmund lose 0-2.

    But otherwise, it was quite an exciting contest between two attacking teams -- lot's of end to end action. BVB had some good chances to score and were unfortunate not to finish them (maybe the 2-2 draw vs Real Madrid is still heavy on their legs). That said, Leverkusen wanted it more and played it like a cup match and took their chances well; they also had the rub of the green. Too bad since Bayern dropped points earlier today (bravo FC Koln).

    As talented as Dembele & Mor are, they can be very frustrating to watch at times (which goes hand in hand with their relative youth & inexperience). Could any BVB fan tell us how they're doing thus far?

    Also, a silly question: what's the story on Dembele, Mor, & Goetze getting the #7, #9, & #10 respectively. Did no one else want these squad numbers when they were made available (ie PEA should be #9 or Kagawa #10)? What is the culture in BVB (& also in Germany in general) when it comes to squad numbers and changing squad numbers?
     
  25. Nur der BvB09

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    BvB were lucke not to lose at least wth a 3 goals margin today. They were outplayed the most of time. This shows once more how luckily BvB was against Real and Wolfsburg not to lose both of.
    Shirt numbers are a teamcase(who is longer and about the capabilities etc.) but i do suspect a littel that tuchel may have his fingers on that game because its a bit strange for me.
    I cannot see BvB be competitive enough with the likes of MariofeckingGötze and Schurrle. Once Reus ll come back to the team perhaps than it ll be a more competitive. Its far to early to speak like the media does here in Germany saying tuchel got it all right so far its quite the same as we ll see here Media writing something as a neutral about the LFC till we win the league:tongue:.YNWA
     
  26. Dortmund fan

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    BVB want Timo Horn from Cologne as replacement for Roman Weidenfeller (will leave next summer).

    Horn's statistic regarding defended balls is the best in Bundesliga this season (even better than Neuer's) and he allowed only 3 goals which made it possible that Cologne is 2nd behind Bayern.

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  27. Dortmund fan

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    Barcelona watch Pulisic, many german sources write.

    Yesterday he scored again.
     
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    PSG want Ginter.
     

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