@Flobs I don't know about rugby. But I've met many football fans over the years from a variety of countries and have never encountered this kind of hatred and disgust towards the national team. Then again, I also don't know english fans who feel that way (some disappointed or indifferent ones, but not to this extreme). Only in the internet so far, that's my experience. And even on TIA only english fans are expected to loathe and hate the national team during tournaments and qualifiers (only by a small minority of fans, fortunately).