Discussion in 'European Football' started by Nikola, Jul 8, 2016.
Thread for the new season.
Barcelona have launched a campaign to show support for convicted tax cheat Lionel Messi.
Can we stop calling them a model football club yet?
Suarez was off form today, he only scored 3 goals and one sick free kick.
88 in 98 for Barca.
He is now better than Ronaldo
Suarez last 6 games in La Liga 17 goals 4 hat-tricks!!
Great weekend of football in Spain to then be marred by this, thankfully, It is not too often this type of abuse happens.
Play was suspended during the first-half of Sporting Gijon's 2-1 victory over Athletic Blilbao at El Molinon as the hosts' win was marred by racist chanting aimed towards Inaki Williams.
22 AUG 2016 - 8:15 AM UPDATED 10 HOURS AGO
Referee Clos Gomez was forced to halt proceedings close to the half-hour mark due to forward Williams receiving abuse from the home fans, leaving Sporting's players to intervene and attempt to silence their own supporters.
After Williams, 22, was penalised for a push on Isma Lopez, supporters began to goad him, which resulted in a brief stoppage with the match official unwilling to continue in such a situation.
An announcement rang out over the tannoy, reminding home fans that racism of any form will not be tolerated inside El Molinon and urging them not to join in with the chants.
Williams later provided an assist for Borja Viguera, as Athletic bagged a consolation goal with five minutes left to play, but Sporting took the three points after second-half strikes from northern summer signings Duje Cop and Victor Rodriguez.
Anyone remember Nabl el Zhar? He just scored 2 for Las Palmas, and an assist to make it 4-1, leading the table before Barcelona kicks off.
1-0 Barca, wonderful goal. Superbly constructed attack from start to finish.
When you play against a team with not one, but two Suarez.... you know you are going to concede.
Always had a soft spot for Alaves.....Well played
So, how long time before Enrique get sacked? Still early this season but Barcelona played "shit" football the last few months last season. They have no team play at all and it all comes down to MSN.
Simeone managed to reduce his contract with Atletico until 2018 instead of 2020.
When did he last renew, any idea?
March 2015. Balague says that he basically felt empty after the final last season, thought his contract is too long. PSG offered him €20m per year. Simeone though says that they can still renew in two years time, that it doesn't mean it's over. But maybe his Atletico story will come to an end in the near future. Some of their top players could be on the move when it happens.
Hard to believe that isn't a sign of him seeing an end at Atletico, which given their competitive circumstances is not surprising. Two years from now the core of that team will be meaningfully older, even in the unlikely scenario they can hang on to some of their real prizes (Griezmann in particular). Doesn't sound like he wants to be La Liga's Wenger.
Yeah, he looked a bit different after last season's CL final, more like frustrated and disappointed than tired. Perhaps he really feels he can't take them any further. My guess is that he will take a job Inter some time in the future, he has great affection for them and they've been rudderless since Mourinho left them. It would be a shame if Atletico fell apart, though, their football isn't pleasing on the eye but it's effective and they have a bunch of great players, starting with Oblak, Godin and Griezmann.
Koke as well, though it seems like he might be one of those hard to lure out of there. I was sure they had them last season, predicted it in the semi's. But I think the players just fell short in the end, not quite enough quality to carry that passion and when it went to penalties some were a bit afraid of the occasion to finally do it over Real (after almost doing it in Lisbon). That would've been huge for them. Real can go on to win 20 CL's (and they probably will be first to do it) but that one for Atletico would be special for them in Madrid. Real on the other side, they can be individualistic, lacking in balance, but then they proved they can grow with the occasion. Atletico know very well this is all mainly Simeone's job and that it will be massively important who they choose next. He badly wanted Costa this summer. A club like Arsenal seems much more ready for the next step and maybe it's overdue now and needs to happen. Maybe it's part of that careful planning that they're ready to have the right guy (if they get the path right) when it happens.
If Mourinho failed to improve the situation in United, Simeone might be their next target and I don't think Inter would be able to provide him that platform he wanted to challenge for honours. United will be more than happy to provide him with the funds needed to bring in the players that suit him.
Sad to see it didn't work out for Pako at Valencia, sacked today.
Valencia seem in trouble lately
This is what you get when you put a corporate figure who knows nothing in terms of running a football club, or even understand the intricacies of European football industry to run your club. Her sole purpose in the club is to find ways to recoup the €420m outlay from Peter Lim, and they have so far covered nearly half of that already in player sales and other activities. Valencia needs a better team of management to run the club, and so far Peter Lim doesn't seem to trust anyone else but this lady Lay Choon, because she had made him shit loads of money in her past position that assigned to her by Lim. It is no coincidence that the club starts to drop down the pecking order after Amadeo Salvo stepped down as club president.
What's happened to football? Is this the consequence of people trying to squeeze cash out of a potentially huge global industry?
Badly managed, lack of understanding in continuity of success, needed to recoup investment too quickly, bad judgement call in sales of assets. She has done very well in terms of balance sheet, but awful in the operations side.
If I have the money, I would appoint her to be my CEO anytime of the day. But football club president? Nope... Never.
Sadly Pako has been sacked by Valencia. They seem to be in real trouble.
Hopefully he gets another job soon.
I suspect her balance sheet success is in real danger. Valencia fans are somewhat notorious for voting with their feet, and La Liga's new television deal only allocates 3% to parachute payments. The Mestalla is a big stadium at 55k, probably bigger than they really needed, and one of the nasty results is that Valencia has a very low season ticket base. I don't think they have broken 40k yet on attendance, and the trend is downward.
I haven't seen any of their games, but seems there is a real sense they just don't have enough attacking firepower left, it has become a matter of shutting down Nani to beat them.
Lim has only been on board since 2014 and they had been in trouble for years prior to that. Almost from the time Rafa left them actually. They held it together for a couple of years but as early as Koeman being there it was clear they were a mess. Around that time they started work on a new stadium and eventually realised they couldnt afford to finish it.
They've been a mess financially, you are absolutely right. But they've not been that revolving door manager kind of mess. They are not known to keep their manager long because other big clubs would come in for them and move on after a couple of season. They have been there and about in Europe as well. Now, they are just in deeper shit than they were before, started in 2015 summer. Their financials are not as bad as they were, but footballing side they are woeful now.
They had 6 managers in the first 3 seasons after Rafa left, two of whom were relatively big nams.
To be fair, Voro and Oscar Fernandez was there as interim managers after Quique Flores and Koeman was dismissed. Unai Emery stayed for abit and then left on his own accord, much like Rafa. So was Espirito Santo. Most in the list of names are somewhat an interim replacement of either fired or resigned managers though. But if you look at where they were in terms of league position, they weren't as bad as they were last season and probably this season too.
Anyone watching Celta vs Barca? Celta leading 3-0 at half time..?
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