Life before my LFC allegiance

Discussion in 'The Albert - LFC Talk' started by Jimmyscase, May 22, 2017.

  1. Jimmyscase

    Jimmyscase DoctorJimmy: knee-high flying tackle specialist

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    My Dad's an extremely casual fan of the Gunners, in other words he doesn't really like the game. I wasn't ever dragged to Highbury as a tiny kid, thank God. At the age of six though, this was the team I knew about most. Then Malcolm McDonald and Newcastle came into my very small world. Before I turned seven, McDonald had become about as exciting as a Wimpy bar.You can guess why?..."Keegan..3-0!" Imagine if Derby or Leeds had won the cup that year? I shiver to think about it.
     
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  2. DeathOrGlory

    DeathOrGlory Fortune Favours the Brave

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    Interesting idea, I'll step into it and share.

    My family aren't sporty at all, none of my immediate family followed any sort of side, except Dad being a casual Richmond football club fan (Australian Rules Football)

    Growing up in Tasmania, Australia, football (soccer) was the game most of my mates and classmates were interested in. We'd play during lunch and recess in the basketball courts and netball courts, setting up goals with jumpers etc. I remember being on grade 6 camp in the highlands of Tassie when Australia played Italy in the 06 World Cup. I've never been patriotic in any way to a national sporting side of Australia so I never got up super early in the freezing weather to watch that game (Australia got knocked out due to a questionable penalty decision I believe). I was never any good at the game (and at 23 now still very average) but a few years later, around mid- 2008 I started to learn more about Liverpool FC, what it stood for.

    Funnily enough, it was through playing FIFA on the old Xbox console that I subconsciously chose Liverpool as my side. I remember picking up FIFA 07 as a teenager and first choosing Rosenberg the Norwegian side as the first team I would play manager mode with (still hold that side dear to my heart). After a few games with them, I decided I wanted to play with some of the best players in the game and back then, Liverpool were one of the best teams in the game (Xabi Alonso, alongside Gerrard was an immense partnership, could score goals from the halfway line regularly). After finishing about 6 seasons with LFC on 07, i decided I should delve deeper into the real life club.

    I'm someone who has a passion for history, and I started buying LFC history books en masse. Behind me, as I write this, I have a bookshelf full of books I bought 7 or 8 years ago as I begun to sink my teeth into this club. Memorable reads were "An Epic Swindle" by Brian Reade and "Reluctant Champion", the biography of Joe Fagan.

    The first live game I remember watching of LFC was in the beginning of the 08/09 season, one that could've meant I'd have seen us lift the title in the first season of my following, but wasn't to be. It was the away game vs Atletico in the group stages of the CL, we were wearing a pretty ugly 3rd away kit and I think Robbie Keane or Steven Gerrard scored the winner (or perhaps the equaliser, not sure). Since then if I'm honest being an LFC fan has been a lot of expectation, and mostly disappointment in return. Being a fan during Hodgsons time here and the club being on the brink of Administration was very difficult, and if I'm honest, I nearly quit following a few times there (being teased constantly at school over LFC results wasn't a heap of fun). I think LFC is in the best position its ever been in during my time as a fan, in terms of trajectory and potential for success and maintaining and building on it. I can't wait for next season!

    I'm glad I got to share my story of how I become a fan as I have always felt that due to not inheriting my passion for the club from a family member and not being a local UK fan I would be judged as something lesser. But I suppose I might have been one of the first to find their passion of something real and tangible in its video game representation. I predict that it will only get more common as globalisation increases. I'd like to put it out there, did anyone else find LFC and their resulting love of the club from something similar to me?
     
  3. Jimmyscase

    Jimmyscase DoctorJimmy: knee-high flying tackle specialist

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    These modern multiple channels are really fascinating both in and of themselves and how the type of fan has broadened. I need a second read to digest all of your information. I'm happy you found my thread stimulating.
     
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  4. Zinedine Biscan

    Zinedine Biscan The patient one

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    I came to football fairly late, about 15 (38 in a couple of weeks' time so it has still been a while!). My mum was rabidly anti-football, to the point where it just wasn't allowed in the house, on telly or in discussion (even now, when I go round there, I'm forbidden from watching Final Score even muted, or just checking the scores). My dad was fairly uninterested as well, said he had a soft spot for Norwich City having lived in that neck of the woods for a while growing up, but that was basically that. My best mates had a team (Chelsea and Spurs, I'm a London lad), but none of us played and so I'm not exaggerating to say it really wasn't a part of my life during childhood.

    For me, in my mid-teens, getting interested in football was close to an act of rebellion (as were a lot of my musical choices back then!). I'd sneak downstairs in the middle of the night if a tournament was on and try to catch highlights - in fact the first match I ever saw was an international between Brazil and (I think) France. It wasn't a World Cup, more like Olympics or something like that. I was immediately entranced.

    I began avidly reading the sports pages to learn all I could about these teams I'd barely even heard of before then... I knew the names ("who do you support then?" being the dreaded question at school) but hardly anything beyond that.

    Just felt drawn to Liverpool immediately. I can't even really explain why. This wasn't the glory years, I didn't yet know about legends like Dalglish, Paisley or Shankly. This was the Roy Evans era, but I was instantly hooked watching guys like Fowler, McManaman, Redknapp... while not particularly effective in terms of trophies or titles, some of the play back then was bewitching.

    I've basically been an addict ever since. Even my dad, perhaps initially looking for something to bond over, became a fan and we went to our first match in, I think, 1997 - 3-3 against Charlton Athletic. Robbie scored that day, and Berger scored an absolute belter. We still talk about it. For a while we made sure we went to at least one game every season, but not been for the last few for various reasons.

    I don't begrudge my mum being so against it, everyone has things they just can't stand, but I do regret not finding it sooner. I'd have been 8 for that amazing 1987/88 team, a good age to follow it, and would have seen a couple of titles. Hopefully not much longer to wait!
     
  5. Jase

    Jase Well-Known Member

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    My dad's a big football fan; used to be a Chelsea season ticket holder, but that was just cos he was in London at the time and it was the nearest club. He loves football first.

    I was raised in Hong Kong and the only games we got live were the cup finals and big rival games and my dad used to let me stay up really late with him to watch them... Liverpool were almost always involved and he used to joke that "my team" was playing... and it stuck. Been that way now for 30 odd years.
     
  6. mattyhurst

    mattyhurst TIA Regular

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    My brother was a keen Everton fan who swapped to Manchester United but there was no real interest in football, my dad as a young boy had watched some of the old time greats like Matthews (in his later years) and Finney and had been dragged to Bolton with friends but he was more Rugby League though he lost interest in that with time.

    So yeah we were free to choose what teams we supported, I think I went with Liverpool as my freind who I was good friends with was a Liverpool fan, then again I think I simply selected them based on the fact they won one week on MOTD, the game and time correlate so it's a possibility, they were also relatively local to Southport so I felt it was allowed, the team they beat was Aston Villa, so it could have been worse.

    Anyhow that was 1993, Souness was well into his reign so don't blame me, anyhow my brother no longer has interest in the game after also briefly flirting with Bolton as he was born there.

    I did around 5 or 6 say I liked Nottingham Forest, still unknown to this day, I think it was Robin Hood related.
     
  7. W00die

    W00die Member

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    Got interested in football in mid 70s and as there wasn't much football on the TV I followed Liverpool in Europe on the radio. Vaguely remember bad reception of matches late at night (well for me) listening on a portable radio in bed (with earphones as it was probably past bed time). Think the first campaign was when we won the Cup Winners Cup v Bruges in '76.

    Was born and went to school in Portsmouth and my Dad stated taking me to Fratton Park in the late 70s / early 80s so still keep an eye on their progress (and hate Southampton!) but first love will always be Liverpool.
     
  8. EdWood

    EdWood TIA Youth Team

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    I was an embryo.
     
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  9. W00die

    W00die Member

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    Bloody kids!
     
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  10. Irishanfield

    Irishanfield Well-Known Member

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    No when I started following Liverpool, it just has always been that way
     
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  11. indianscouser

    indianscouser Oh ya Beautttty!!

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    Being from India, no one really cares much for football. Its all about cricket.
    I was bored one evening(i was 15), watching ESPN, when Liverpool were playing West Ham in the 2006 FA cup final.
    It was because of Gerrard!!!
    In a country where, cricket is religion and Sachin is our god, i was:
    Liverpool my Religion, Anfield my Temple and Gerrard my God!
    I am grateful that I support such a wonderful club and I have been very lucky to watch games at the KOP end and even see Gerrard score :well done:
    Never supported any team before, used to watch England though.
     
  12. Livvy

    Livvy Well-Known Member

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    My father was a referee for many many years and even as a very young child he took me with him every weekend to different stadions and pitches. For me...it's all about the atmosphere, the togetherness, the spirit... i've watched sooo many matches "behind the scenes", and during a "boring game" i did my homework ;-)

    Couldnt find a better place now right? :-)
     
  13. Zinedine Biscan

    Zinedine Biscan The patient one

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    Is the shot in your avatar Gerrard's equaliser from that final?
     
  14. Jimmyscase

    Jimmyscase DoctorJimmy: knee-high flying tackle specialist

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    What I want to hear is the more or less the following: Man United were my team but I got sick of the stench, then I supported Everton but got a shoulder deformity from carrying all that weight around, then I got into Arsene's boys but they fleeced me of every penny I had for a season ticket, then in 2005 I watched the Champions League final.
     
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  15. Jase

    Jase Well-Known Member

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    @Scott Jones will be along shortly
     
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  16. geebo

    geebo Bekloppt ! (German for loopy)

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    I remember that game, and I remember watching wrestling the morning just before the match "giant haystacks vs big Daddy"! I also have a scar on my leg from that day. We had an open coal fire, and I was bored waiting for the game and put a few plastic soldier on the fire (as you do as a kid) but drops a molten one on my leg !
     
  17. Scott Jones

    Scott Jones Well-Known Member

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    I was ten years old and went to PE and forgot my gym kit and i had to do the walk of shame to the "lost kit bin" and grabbed a girls pleated school skirt by mistake and a itchy red top from the bin,when i returned to the gym my teacher told me to wear the skirt to stop me forgetting my kit next time and i put the top on and it was the Hitachi LFC one and after the lesson i accidentally nicked it and pretended it was mine and wore it every gym lesson after that,i just fell in love with it and my parents bought me a new one with velvety crown paints across the belly and I've been hooked since.
     
  18. Jimmyscase

    Jimmyscase DoctorJimmy: knee-high flying tackle specialist

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    Just think of the staggering levels of self-belief and swagger you'd have to have to pull that off! I'm not having any of it. So assuming your life was devoid of anything notable except a fertile imagination, who or what introduced you to our club Scott?
     
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    Scott Jones Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you tell me,nothing pretend here pal.:well done:
     
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  20. Zinedine Biscan

    Zinedine Biscan The patient one

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    With remarkably few tweaks that could be a serial killer origin story lol
     
  21. Chewbazza

    Chewbazza True Believer

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    My tale isn't too dissimilar to
    @Zinedine Biscan just got a bit of a headstart.

    There was no interest in football in my house in the first seven years of my life. My mum maintains she supports Leicester because she went on holiday there once and my Dad supports Leeds because he was born there. Truth is I don't think either has or ever will watch a full match.

    At the age of six we moved house and I started at a new school, and as ZB said, the question of who do you support was soon asked. The year was 1988 and Liverpool were the current champions (though i didn't know it at the time) but I had heard of them and for some reason I knew and liked John Barnes. At some point I had seen him play for England, though I couldn't tell you how or when.

    So Liverpool was the answer I gave. Once I'd said it I was committed to it, and so began the self-education of the game of football and the team I had pledged my support to. This was easier said than done for a kid that received little pocket money, couldn't stay up to watch MOTD, rarely had access to a newspaper and wouldn't have stood a chance of finding a game on the radio.

    Fortunately it wasn't long before I discovered Ceefax and Teletext. My knights in multi-coloured pixels. 302 for headlines, 312 for transfer gossip, 324 for tables, and so week after week I would sit and watch the videprinter waiting for a Liverpool goal. On Monday morning I could now confidently join in and inform everyone that we won and who scored and which minute they scored in.

    As my resources grew, and I gained access to Shoot magazine and panini stickers and final score and match of the day, and culminated in saving up to buy my first shirt for the 1995/96 season.

    It was only later i discovered my Grandad had been a United fan when he was alive. Which had I been told it when I was 6 would probably have meant I'd spent this season cheering on the amazing unbeaten run!
     
  22. Jimmyscase

    Jimmyscase DoctorJimmy: knee-high flying tackle specialist

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    Don't make sly remarks that turn out to be perfect predictions.
     
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    dxb_red Well-Known Member

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    I spent my formative years in the South of England and, whilst Crystal Palace were the nearest team geographically and not all that bad in the early 90's, I was more of a football fan than a supporter of any individual club. My dad didnt really support any specific team and I was mainly interested in playing wembley and collecting football stickers. I seem to remember that, as a 7 year old, my favourite players were John Solako, Macca and.....shudder.....Ryan Giggs. Then at the age of 8 I moved country with my family and my stepdad was a Liverpool fan, so I just started going to watch games with him every week and from that point on I was hooked. I actually picked a pretty good time to start watching - the 94-95 season with the likes of Fowler, Macca, Redknapp, Barnes and Rush; we didnt do fantastically well in the league, but it was a hell of a team and I still remember us beating Bolton in the League Cup final that year. Twenty two years later, I'm still hooked.
     
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  24. shankly96

    shankly96 Gif King

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    I enjoy threads like this. It's always interesting to see how and why people ended up supporting Liverpool. Reminds me of Broomy's old Ee-Aye-Addio thread. Here's the comment I put in that thread explaining my link to Liverpool:

    My love affair began in 1999 with Micheal Owen. My family are all from Stepney and, by default, West Ham fans. My parents divorced '97, my mum and brothers and me moved up to Northampton in '99. My Dad had us down in London for a weekend and on the Friday took my brother's to their first match, by the sounds of it a cracking game, 5-3 to West Ham. I didn't go however, Friday night game at Upton Park isn't the right place for a 3 year old, and a good thing too otherwise i'd probably have supported West Ham because of that match. Instead I was left with my nan while they went to the game, and I didn't really know my nan at that time, so, like most toddlers who are left with people they don't really know I started crying and wailing and complaining and throwing the biggest hissy fit I've ever thrown. To shut me up my nan went to the nearest shop and got me the first football related thing she could, a poster book of Micheal Owen (which I still have).

    Owen continued to be the focus of my early childhood. My brothers and me would wake up at 7 in the morning on a Sunday(a sin for schoolboys) and watch Match of the Day, them to see West Ham and me to see Owen. Most weeks I'd see Owen score, and fairly often Fowler as well, who was the first non-Owen Liverpool player that I was aware of. I also began to like Carragher when he was at right back because I played right back, and I also began to like Hyypiia and Henchoz form a record-breaking partnership until Moaninho's Chelsea came along, and so my awareness began to spread, but still the focus was Owen. I adored him so much that I got a VHS of his first 100 goals for Liverpool (which I also still have). For my sixth birthday (Feb 2002) my mum had written to him explaining how much I idolised him and so for my birthday I got a signed card from him, an annual of the previous season, luckily the season we won everything but the league, which taught me about the club, it's where learned about the other players, the history, Heysel and Hillsborough, Shankly and Paisley and everything else. On top of that he sent an a4 piece of paper with a happy birthday message from the entire squad, signed by all of them. Easily the best present I have ever recieved, it was great of him to send all of that when he didn't have to, I still would have worshipped him, and it gave me the depth of connection to the club that most people only get from being in Liverpool. I still have the annual, and left the card/a4 with my mum (which she'd better not have lost, otherwise there'll be hell to pay).

    I didn't really understand much about transfers and things like that so when he went to Madrid all I knew was that I wouldn't see him as much, except for England, but I hoped he carry on being great, You'll Never Walk Alone and all that. Anyway the season that came was the 04/05 season. I didn't know much about why Houllier was gone either, or why Rafa came in, but I liked the arrival of Xabi because I had similar hair back then, so I decided to stick with Liverpool (best reason ever!). I didn't see many league games that year either, but the Champions League matches were watched every time they were on and the standout match at first was Olympiakos, which really engaged me in the club even more. The next game I remember from that year is against West Brom on boxing day when we spanked them 5-0, probably because I think it was the only league match that I saw that year, and then the Champions League run continued. Juve beaten by the aforementioned Garcia, and Chelsea as well. Then Istanbul. The night before my uncle, a QPR fan (unlucky), came round and asked me if I really believed Liverpool would win, and I did. I didn't know about continental footballm or the quality of that AC Milan team. I did know we'd got through every other challenge that year. Who are AC Milan anyway. I spent halftime blasting a football at a fence in my garden. Luckily I didnt give up and neither did Livepool. Gerrard. Then Scmicer. Then Xabi, even if he did nearly give me a heart attack by missing the actual penalty. Then came Carragher's heroics. The Dudek's dancing, something I did at school discos for years after.

    After that I was a certified Liverpool fan. I adored the club, the players, and rubbing it in everyone's face that we were the best in Europe that year. The season after was a good one for me. The first time I saw Liverpool live was a week before the FA cup final at Upton Park in the West Ham game. I remember being scared when my dad and brothers insisted that Garcia would be sent off and banned from the final the week after, but it didn't happen. their player got the double booking but ours didn't. They were annoyed at that. I was happy. A week passed and the FA cup rolled on. I was watching downstairs on the proper telly and my brothers were upstairs watching on the little one we'd kept from years ago. They got cocky for a lot of the match. Then I ran upstairs yelling in their faces after Gerrard had his say. Then again after the penalty shoot out. We were the greatest. At least in my mind. Even if we did have Jan Kromkamp.

    07 was bittersweet, another great run in the CL, but one that ended in tears. Kuyt earned his stripes with me that year, he scored in the 90th-ish minute to make it 2-1 and I loved him for it, and began to believe we'd actually win a third trophy in a ridiculous come back for a third year. Oh well. Most years I go down to Upton Park with the brothers and my Dad, most years we win. This year they were insufferable, but Sterling scored a craker so I let it slide, and last year they had to put up with beginning to believe we'd win the league. Only been to Anfield once, only had one opportunity really. Gomel. 3-0 to us. Brenda's first game. Johnson scored a lovely goal, Borini got on the scoresheet, and Suarez finished them off. Hopefully I'll get to go Anfield some more in the future, can't just keep seeing them against West Ham only, it's not that great a fixture. The years have rolled on, some great players have come and gone, so have some absolutely shit ones. Trophies have dried up, but my love remains. Liverpool's more than a club for me, more than an obsession. In many ways it's a part of me. My week depends on it, and the impact it has on my mood is ridiculous. Still haven't felt for another player quite the way I felt about Owen, not even Stevie, but Owen's gone, so's Gerrard. So is everyone from the beginning of my Liverpool time. I felt old when Carragher retired because he'd been playing all my life, I feel older still now Gerrard's gone, but next season I'll be watching Coutinho and waiting for him to make me feel like a kid again. Roll on next year. Next year will be our year. Next year the little magician will pull off his biggest trick and return us to where we belong, to the top of the tree...hopefully

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    2 years old that comment and the ending still applies. I'll go into next season believing (probably against my better judgement) that next season is the season. The one where we break the hoodoo. The one where I get to see Liverpool where it belongs. The one that brings this club the only important trophy I haven't seen it win (I don't care too much about the club world championship thingy). Next year it'll happen...right? It's bound to...It's got to happen sooner or later so why not sooner? That's it. I've convinced myself. This time next year we'll be millionaires Rodney...I'm mean Premier League champions
     
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  25. Zoran

    Zoran Fighting like beavers.

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    Liverpool fan since the age of 10, but nothing much to say in terms of football or sports in general before that.

    Can remember a full house during France '98, but didn't have a clue what was happening then, only that Croatia were obviously having a good tournament. We had some nice evenings and celebrations. I do remember details like Barthez's baldy head, everyone jumping in the sea when we beat the Germans 3-0, Suker's blood pressure move before his penalty/winner against Romania, etc.!

    My parents split up shortly after, new city, new friends, started kicking a football with them, got interested and went to my first training. Love for football happened very quickly, a combination of new friends and a new (first) passion. My old man is not a football guy, much more of a tennis fan. Had to watch tons of Jimmy Connors tapes with him... and still do when he has a couple of drinks!

    Grandad is the opposite, a big football guy and has been in that business. Got an Owen kit (basically my first football item, meant a lot just at the time when my football passion started) from him in the summer of '00 and then what a fantastic season as well. Never looked back since, speaking of Liverpool, started to follow games/highlights/news as much as possible, learn and absorb every past or present information I could get about the club.

    Oh and my mum absolutely adores Rafa, she often asks me when he will return and that it's simply not the same to her without him in charge!

    :-)
     
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  26. Strictly Armchair

    Strictly Armchair Perspective and equilibrium

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    Should have put your deerstalker on young man. My first thought was that it was the clincher against Olympiakos due to the colour of the ball and the background looking like it's floodlit. A quick scan of Google images confirms it. There was a white ball used in the F.A. Cup final in '06. Gerrard's approach to the shots is quite different too. Against Olympiakos he let the ball drift across him before leathering it while against the Hammers he pretty much hobbled straight towards the ball and then let fly. Great goals both though, valuable ones too in the bigger scheme of things.
     
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    Irishanfield Well-Known Member

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    What happened the skirt though? Did you nick that as well? Are you still wearing skirts now because of that?
    Why was there a skirt in the lost property and was it an all boys school?

    So many questions, so little time
     
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  28. Scott Jones

    Scott Jones Well-Known Member

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    I don't have the legs for skirts.:eh?:
     
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  29. Strictly Armchair

    Strictly Armchair Perspective and equilibrium

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    Modesty has never stopped you before now. Nor some others I have seen wearing skirts, In fact, I have seen better legs attached to a table.
     
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    Irishanfield Well-Known Member

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    That's not answering the question now is it:think:
    Have seen quite a few women who don't have legs for skirts but that never stopped them
     

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