Ryan Sessegnon (LB) Fulham

Discussion in 'Rumour Mill - Transfer Talk' started by Kopstar, Mar 17, 2017.

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  1. ILLOK

    ILLOK In the Danger Zone.

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    His stats are ridiculous. How has a 16 year old left back/left mid scored 7 in 19 starts?

    Shades of Dele Alli/Bale all over this. If we've got a big kitty this is exactly the type of kid we should be pursuing.
     
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  2. Makati Red

    Makati Red Well-Known Member

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    I guess we will end up paying 20m for him if we want him
     
  3. redfanman

    redfanman TIA Regular Valued Member

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    He's also played winger.
     
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  4. Mystryman01

    Mystryman01 Active Member

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    My thoughts exactly, we were linked with Alli for ages, and then nothing ever materialised, and Spurs did the right thing by buying him and then sending him out on loan for a bit more, before making the step up.
    Wouldn't mind if we did the same thing, for next season.
     
  5. Makati Red

    Makati Red Well-Known Member

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    The thing is he is probably good enough to play PL football now so not sure he would be happy signing to go out on loan but I get your point
     
  6. rickardinho1

    rickardinho1 Active Member

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    I guess transfermarkt is wrong then...
     
  7. Iluvatar

    Iluvatar Eru

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    If we sign Sessegnon I doubt he'd go out on loan, he'd go straight into the first team squad like TAA and Woodburn did. By next season he'll be 17, so similar age to Woodburn who has gone on to get minutes etc. From what I've heard about Klopp he'd much rather have his best youngsters training with him day in day out.
     
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  8. redfanman

    redfanman TIA Regular Valued Member

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    I stand corrected. 4 games. totalling 40 minutes.:tongue:
     
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  9. rickardinho1

    rickardinho1 Active Member

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    lol, I didn't realize it was that little, but still, the point stands ;-)
     
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  10. Makati Red

    Makati Red Well-Known Member

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    Well looks like Fulham could make the Play Offs and that would defo confuse the issue should they make the PL. Looks like they can get 6 points from there last 3 games there next game against Huddersfield is a toughie as they now have a chance to catch Newcastle especially if they beat Derby tonight.
     
  11. CymruRed

    CymruRed TIA Youth Team

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    If he still hasn't signed a professional contract,surely we can offer him one without Fulham having any say so on selling him,then have to pay £10mill+ via a tribunal?

    I'd snap this kid up,looks like he could be our future LB for years,i just hope none of the other big guns are sniffing around him.
     
  12. Kopstar

    Kopstar ★★★★★ Valued Member

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    I imagine he's on a 2-year professional development contract. No idea whether he's approaching the end of the first or second (last) year though. 17 is just when he can sign his first professional contract and doesn't necessarily indicate the expiry of his development contract.
     
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  13. redfanman

    redfanman TIA Regular Valued Member

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    Yes, appears to have come on for the last 10 minutes in a handful of games. Unclear whether that is to make a back five, or because of injuries. Managed to get 2 assists though!
     
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  14. rickardinho1

    rickardinho1 Active Member

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    You'd think Sessegnon would be looking at Liverpool as a great place for his next step...

    He's clearly outgrown Fulham already judging by the various YT videos. No way should a player like that spend another year in the Championship. The caveat of course would be if Fulham get promoted where it might make sense to stay one more season for guaranteed first team football, but that is still up in the air.

    I get the sense that Klopp prefers to bring in young fullbacks who he can mould into his style of play, given that LB is quite a specialist position in Klopp's system - rather than signing a more experienced alternative who would have some bad habits already from other clubs.

    In terms of playing style he seems to be a natural fit too, given that he likes charging forward and playing intricate one-two's. and at Liverpool he would be developing under Klopp, without the pressure of being first-choice while learning from Milner, and surely still getting plenty of games in cup games and against lower-table PL sides when Milner is rested after CL nights... Naturally with the view of gradually taking over from Milner as starting LB.

    Chelsea have Azpilizueta and Alonso, and United have Shaw, Rojo,and Blind, so I don't think they'll factor into this so much, however, it's worth noting that City and Arsenal will also be looking for a LB, given that Clichy's contract expires this summer, and Kolarov's next year; and Monreal (31) and Gibbs need replacing too (though Arsenal are apparently looking at Kolasinac if rumours are true). City in particular could really do with homegrown talent.

    Klopp has already shown that he's willing to trust talented youngsters, so that would surely also be a big advantage compared to City or other clubs, save maybe Arsenal - though they don't really seem to be a club on the up at the moment.

    All-in-all, it seems like a no-brainer for both Liverpool and Sessegnon. Hopefully get it done early so he can come in and get settled for preseason.

    PS. Fwiw, I also like Theo Hernandez a lot, but looking closer I think Sessegnon's aptitude for a quick one-two over just charging up the field with the ball would seem like a more natural fit, along with the fact that Sessegnon is English of course.
     
  15. rickardinho1

    rickardinho1 Active Member

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    2 assists in 40 minutes? That's a rate of 4.5 assists per game! Clearly Wenger knows nothing about football if he's overlooked Ox for RB with those sorts of stats! :D
     
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  16. redfanman

    redfanman TIA Regular Valued Member

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    I think Klopp's fullbacks at Dortmund were originally wingers in the youth set up? If so, that would explain why TAA and Sessegnon would appeal to him and other, older fullbacks perhaps less so.

    Chelsea have Azpi, but while he is a really good full back, he isnt a particularly good wingback and when he has played there, they have struggled a little bit. They were supposedly rivalling our interest in him.

    I think Utd also could get interested as none of those you mention are players that Mourinho would lose any sleep over replacing, but i think Sessegnon's style probably doesnt fit what he wants in a full back.
     
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  17. rickardinho1

    rickardinho1 Active Member

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    Yes Klopp's fullbacks were converted wingers, including Piezczek, and I think Durm was even converted from a striker even iirc.

    I suppose with talents like Sessegnon all the top clubs will be interested no matter what their current situation is.

    That said, if you're Sessegnon himself you'd have to be looking at Liverpool as the best option though, as there is a very clear path to the First XI (unlike clubs like Chelsea or City who typically buy the latest big names), and at Liverpool there is a top manager who will be here long-term (unlike Arsenal or United). The way Shaw is being treated by United/Mourinho is surely a big warning sign for someone like him too.
     
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  18. legalalien

    legalalien The Tweetherder

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    Somewhat off topic, but I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few players were put off from going to Utd because of Mourinho and the way he slags off individual players to the media.
     
  19. Iluvatar

    Iluvatar Eru

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    Funny that they are close to signing Aurier.. A total bellend of a player.. Fits right into shitcunts scumchester.
     
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  20. shankly96

    shankly96 Gif King

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    He's been included in the Championship team of the season. Not bad going for someone so young. Personally haven't seen much of him, but from what I have seen, and the comments here, and the inclusion in the ToTS he seems to me to be a very bright prospect. Think we should bring him in and have him as the back up left back as understudy to Milner. I know Milner isn't a full back by nature, but he's done well there and hopefully being Milner's understudy would get Milner's mentality to rub off on him because a bright prospect who has the work ethic and mentality of Milner is one that could go very very far.
     
  21. rickardinho1

    rickardinho1 Active Member

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    It's not difficult to see what all the fuss is about...



     
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  22. Zinedine Biscan

    Zinedine Biscan The patient one

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    So what are we thinking here, the new Bale, someone who starts at the back but is moved forward due to his attacking prowess, or the new Ashley Cole, someone who stays at LB and can just do both (attack and defend)?

    Either way, hope we get this kid.
     
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  23. GaryBarlow99

    GaryBarlow99 New Member

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    The new Marcelo would be my preference :-)
     
  24. redfanman

    redfanman TIA Regular Valued Member

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    Depends on his defending. Suggestion is he would be our long term fullback with TAA on the other flank.
     
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  25. gr_sounder

    gr_sounder The Lurking One

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    I would take the "New Roberto Carlos" myself.
     
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  26. Chewbazza

    Chewbazza True Believer

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    If we sign him I just hope there are lot of players in the future who might be the new Sessegnon.
     
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  27. Zinedine Biscan

    Zinedine Biscan The patient one

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  28. Hope in your heart

    Hope in your heart Loyalty and patience, two undervalued concepts... Admin

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    Looking at the vids above, this player looks incredibly raw. Seems to make a lot of wrong decisions, wrong passes, wrong dribbles etc.

    Has got nice pace and strength about him for such a young lad, but apart from that, I can't really see what the fuss is about him, and even more, why he'd be anything else than any other youngster currently at the club. High potential is there, for sure, but as for all the other good young players, he'll need to be patiently developed in order to reach it.

    Far, far from the finished product, and certainly not ripe in any way, shape or form for the PL imo.
     
  29. ILLOK

    ILLOK In the Danger Zone.

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    The fuss is because a 16 year old kid is scoring for fun from left back/left wing. If his decision making was that poor he wouldn't find it so easy to score. His goals per minute is pretty similar to Firmino's to put it into perspective a little bit. 2 of his goals were away at Newcastle, who are a premiership quality side.

    Nobody said he's a finished product at 16 but he appears well capable of producing pretty much straight away. He's literally already doing so.
     
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  30. Hope in your heart

    Hope in your heart Loyalty and patience, two undervalued concepts... Admin

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    All well and good producing the goods in the Championship, but I can't see him play in the PL straightaway. As a good prospect, I'm certainly not against trying to get him (although all the big clubs will be after him, given the hype surrounding him currently), but I'm a bit stunned to read that people consider him as a potential back-up for Milner. One bad injury, and he's our regular LB? This is surely way over the top?
     

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