Discussion in 'Pitchside - Football Forum' started by El Dorado, Dec 3, 2016.
That bottom three of Sunderland, Hull and now Boro begins to look like congealing.
Yeah, daylight now appearing between them and the rest. A little surprised Boro are sliding down the way they are as defensively they've been sound, but if you can't score goals then points are going to be hard to come by.
3 games losing and winning streak going one way, and you will see the bottom of the table changed again. I think the only confirmed team so far is Sunderland.
Sunderland look poor and honestly without an aging defoe would be down already.
I'm not too sure about hull, they have shown they have the capacity to fight but i don't know if they have the players to successfully get out of that scrap. Boro just don't score enough and at this stage of the season they need wins, if you can't score you can't win. But i would be suprised if it was anyone other than these three teams.
Side note: two wins from two for Leicester post ranieri, did their players just stop playing for him?
Haven't Swansea and Sunderland made us all look like twits, in terms of the poll I mean?
Swansea's break in form is nothing less than astonishing. They have 27 points now. When the poll closed, they had 15 from 20 matches, a woeful 0.75 per game. Since then, they have picked up 12 from 8, 1.5 per game. They went from a surefire relegation rate to a rate that would have them chasing a Europa League spot - since Jan 3, that rate is good for 6-9th spot. Even the overstated new manager bounce usually gets a couple of points then at best a middling rate that leads to mediocrity and survival.
Sunderland...well, it now appears the Mancs broke Moyes.
Clement's done a good job so far. His transfers were maybe nothing special on paper, but it proves that you can do something (get some immediate improvement, especially down there) with players who fit the style and bring something different conceptually. A couple of tweaks and suddenly it's a starting XI that makes sense.
I think one team may battle it out with Hull for that final spot.
Middlesborough and Sunderland I feel have gone already.
I voted for both, so I only look half-idiotic. I'm up on my usual status by half an idiot!
Swansea just don't seem to be able to get that burst of points to get themselves completely out of trouble. Two losses in a row has them slipping down the form table, where two wins in a row would have given them a decent cushion - they really need to win against Boro on 4/2
Unfortunately it looks like the current bottom 3 of Sunderland, Boro and Hull.
Would love to see Leicester go down.
Shame for their fans, but karma for their gutless prima donna playing staff
Sunderland are doomed now. Terrible side.
Middlesbrough looked doomed too actually. Bit late to change the manager IMO.
Hull, Palace & Swansea will battle it out to avoid the last spot.
Hope Defoe secures himself a good opportunity to stay in the PL next season.
After last night Sunderland have now gone 6 games without scoring. Their last goals came against Palace on 4th of February.
Goners, for sure.
Couldn't happen to a nicer Gollum.
Sunderland have been hanging on for years now. They will struggle to get back up. They could be this seasons Villa in the championship. Or even Norwich.
Middlesbrough are goners too IMO. Don't score enough goals.
Last spot is between West Ham, Palace, Hull & Swansea i reckon. Bournemouth & Burnley are safe IMO.
Good old Moyes.
Always looking to set new records.
Swansea showing that honeymoon periods are something we shouldn't read into, they are in trouble big time.
It's increasingly looking like them or Hull for the last spot, another side who had a honeymoon period under a new guy. So, while both benefited from that new manager bounce it will require something more substantial for which ever one is able to stay up.
It's really them or Hull, I think West Ham got a vital win at the weekend, Stoke could be dragged into it as they have looked utterly useless since about Feb against anyone not in the top 6 but I feel one win will be enough for any of those on 36/37, Bournemouth might need a draw too. Palace are safe in the way they are playing.
Wouldn't surprise me if one of those on 36 or 35 have to sweat mind.
Hope Hull go down, though will be sorry that one of Silva/Clement could go. Maybe they're in for one of the PL jobs next season if they go down next month. So it's simply considering both clubs, Hull are a bit of a mess upstairs.
Good to see we've done so well at predicting the bottom 3
Generally glad to see Swansea stay up, generally a good fan club, shame those Americans are a bit shit. Clement has done wonders mind.
I got 2 out of 3!
Ditto. Big turnaround from Swansea.
2/3 and surprised and happy that Swansea clawed their way back.
Now I can carry on being conflicted when we play them
I only got Hull right.
I did tip Watford at the very start of the season, always felt Hull would go, can't think who I felt as 3rd maybe Palace as Pardew had been on a downward spiral for some months last season.
I only got 1 of 3 - didn't think Boro would slide as badly as they did, didn't think Moyes would be so crap, didn't think Swansea could be raised from the dead. My other one was West Ham, but Bilic managed to pull out of the spiral.
Clement absolutely deserves to be a PL manager, that turnaround was remarkable. Hull's was too, apparently there are supposed to be talks between Silva and the club, I am not sure why Silva would bother.
When Swansea beat us I said "they better stay up now or this was for nothing. And it better not ruin our top 4."
They did their part. One more and we do ours.
It's a win/lose - win/lose situation for you
edit - or a draw - draw too i suppose
I got them all wrong although it was touch and go till after the halfway mark. I had Leicester, West Ham and Swansea and all were amongst it at some stage or another so I am doing my best to convince myself I know my onions.
Then again, I did laugh at the Clement appointment sooo...
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