- Nov 26, 2017
I stand by my statement that the main reason footie specials were axed is because they were regularly being trashed. Both BR and later, the franchises, knew they'd have no viable stock if they continued to provide them so yes, economics did come into it.Main Reason they stopped Football Specials was in 1995 the rail network was franchised off to private companies who 1 saw no benefit in running these types of train services, why you may ask reason being to run these services would mean having rolling stock sitting around for most of the year doing nothing meaning they are paying to have trains sitting doing nothing. In todays train market companies only have enough trains to cover the timetable as they rent the trains they use unlike in BR days when they owned the trains. Railways are basically split into 3 areas infrastructure (Network Rail) train operators and then a little know fact the leasing companies who own the trains. 2nd reason most football specials where put on by the clubs so they would be cheaper for the fans to get to games and usually they would only be used for major games like finals.
Now in Liverpool we run the Soccer bus from Sandhills to both grounds, it was a well used service a number of years back but today I don't know who well it is used. In Manchester - Utd run trains from Oxford Road station to the ground years ago it was 3 trains used to ferry fans back and forth today I am not sure what happens but I know there was talk of ripping up the Halt to make way for something else, they do have an advantage in today the trams are running and are quite frequent, we don't have that in Liverpool and it could be something Merseytravel and CC should revisit
Im sorry but you're applying a European model to UK railways and with respect, that aint going to work. Once again, it wont be an 8 minute train journey despite the relatively short distance.To make it work, the matchday 'window' would have to be optimized - which is managed in many other places, including where the lines are not owned by the train operators.
No question to make it work would require some bespoke arrangements at other stations. But in places where it has been put in place, it is fantastically convenient, I think the question of why they would answers itself when you see how a system like that can operate. When you can avoid 40 minutes of traffic with an 8 minute train ride, it is becomes compelling.
Yes, I realise they dont have to start from Lime Street. Irrespective of which station, people have to get there. More importantly, they have to be happy to get to the station as part of their journey planning.New services along this line can easily be done as they don't have to all start in Lime Street some services can start at Edge Hill as there is a bay between Platforms one and two that could be reintroduced. The realty though is it would have to be service operated by the Northern franchise as MerseyRail run third rail traction. So unless network rail but down 3rd rail it would need to be diesel services.