Can we do the league and CL double?

OzzyKop

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You wouldn't pick winning the league twice?

... why?
Because winning CL is harder and this team would be officially the Greatest PL team ever surpassing the Treble Man u side (more points and invincible + back to back CL champions).
 

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Because winning CL is harder and this team would be officially the Greatest PL team ever surpassing the Treble Man u side (more points and invincible + back to back CL champions).
But next season we would collapse and win nothing? Nah. We're more consistently sound in Europe than in the league, so I'd prefer to overtake United in league titles whilst we're bloody excellent.

I'd obviously prefer both, though.
 

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Klopp has done a remarkable job of keeping the lads focused so far. The further this season goes on with this sort of lead the harder that will be. We then run into the issue Bayern have faced so often - title effectively wrapped up by early Spring, they go off the boil a bit and then struggle to turn it on for the CL ties. Still being on course for a record point haul or an undefeated season could really help mitigate against that and force them to keep pushing all the way through to the final in Istanbul
 

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I’ve heard a few comments along the lines of getting the league wrapped up in April, so we can rotate the league games and focus on the cups.

I think this is flawed, largely because of how this team is built.

To me, it looks like our lads are conditioned to play two games a week. We fall off a bit with a week between games - Klopp mentioned this at the weekend and he is right to point out that it’s a balancing act. Too little recovery time and we risk injuries and legs falling off. Too much and we struggle to get back in the rhythm. The sweet spot seems to be about 4-5 days between games.

So any thoughts about wholesale changes in the league to keep us fresh in the cup games might be the wrong way of looking at it. Such an approach may actually hinder us in the cups.

I think we need to keep going in the league, regardless of how early we can wrap it up*. Keeping up the intensity in the league might give up a better chance in the cups.

*one exception to this. If we some how do manage to win in before the Ev, we should play the kids again. Elite trolling.
 

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I’ve heard a few comments along the lines of getting the league wrapped up in April, so we can rotate the league games and focus on the cups.

I think this is flawed, largely because of how this team is built.

To me, it looks like our lads are conditioned to play two games a week. We fall off a bit with a week between games - Klopp mentioned this at the weekend and he is right to point out that it’s a balancing act. Too little recovery time and we risk injuries and legs falling off. Too much and we struggle to get back in the rhythm. The sweet spot seems to be about 4-5 days between games.

So any thoughts about wholesale changes in the league to keep us fresh in the cup games might be the wrong way of looking at it. Such an approach may actually hinder us in the cups.

I think we need to keep going in the league, regardless of how early we can wrap it up*. Keeping up the intensity in the league might give up a better chance in the cups.

*one exception to this. If we some how do manage to win in before the Ev, we should play the kids again. Elite trolling.
I thought it was largely accepted that this is exactly what we did the year we reached the Europa league final, so there is a precedent for it.

Although the squad is much better and balanced now, so there probably isn't as much need for it, but it would be nice to have the option should it come to it.
 

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Ok Ok which one would you choose:

1) Win the double this Year and next Year (League title and Fa cup) but lose one game a season so no invisible and No Centurion (Finish on 99pts).

Or

2) Win the Treble this Year and go on to be Invisible Centurion and get 106 points But No League Title or CL next Season.
I'd go for 2 as well. That would shut Utd up about us not winning the treble that they won.

BTW, if we become invisible I think that would make us invincible.;)
 

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But next season we would collapse and win nothing? Nah. We're more consistently sound in Europe than in the league, so I'd prefer to overtake United in league titles whilst we're bloody excellent.

I'd obviously prefer both, though.
We will only be one behind United and we should catch up with them, however putting more distance on them on CL.
 

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this team is too good to be satisfied with "just winning the league" regardless of how long it's been since we last did..

taking all the records would be lovely banter, but the most important records are "most trophies" and i want THE Treble.
 

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City will keep us honest. I expect them to have a much better second half of the season than the first. Keeping the CL campaign going is also critical. It'll help drive us on. Just as it did last season. We were in a bit of a slump until we beat Bayern at the Allianz.

I'm sure the target for this season will have been 100 points as that's about the only way you can guarantee a title these days and we are still well on course for that. Obviously just winning the title would be a fantastic achievement but this team has been so good for so long that it deserves to break records.
 

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The League is pretty much done so really it's can we win old big ears again? Currently we are second favourites (how the feck are City favourites????) but in reality the question is can we beat Barca again, PSG or Real Madrid (I think they will do City quite comfortably) - a toss up for me. Over two legs I think we can beat them, in a one off game (even in Instanbul!) you never know, the teams are too close in quality.
Heart says yes, head says maybe!
 

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To me, it looks like our lads are conditioned to play two games a week. We fall off a bit with a week between games - Klopp mentioned this at the weekend and he is right to point out that it’s a balancing act. Too little recovery time and we risk injuries and legs falling off. Too much and we struggle to get back in the rhythm. The sweet spot seems to be about 4-5 days between games.

So any thoughts about wholesale changes in the league to keep us fresh in the cup games might be the wrong way of looking at it. Such an approach may actually hinder us in the cups.

I think we need to keep going in the league, regardless of how early we can wrap it up*. Keeping up the intensity in the league might give up a better chance in the cups.

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I tend to agree with you on this. I get nervous first time back after we've had training in the sunshine, we just don't seem to play like a team refreshed. With this 'time off', I hope I'm wrong.
 

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IMO if we beat Atlético we will reach the final again.
Totally agree. Before the draw the one team I didn't want to pull was them. Simeone is the type of manager that players would die for , not to mention cheat like fuck for. I reckon we need to score over there to have a decent chance. A 1-0 would suit them down to the ground.

Beat them then win it I say.
 

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Taking this thread a little more seriously now.
I think we have to ensure neither state-owned Arab team wins the UCL. It matters that Shiteh and PSG go empty-handed as long as possible. We also have to avenge an injustice against us by Real. I thoroughly dislike Bayern München and Juventus too, that pretty much only leaves Barça. It's now harder to hate them after us handing out last year's humiliation. I'd have to go for a preventative reason: stop them wreaking revenge.
We could and maybe should get to the final again. It's the only trophy we could win in addition to #19 that wouldn't be completely dwarfed by that story.