Klopps and Robbers anyone?
- Jan 9, 2018
You have to be a good enough player first to make the team before captaincy comes into the equation, and Jordan, as harsh as it may be, isn't top notch. We are slowly but surely assembling a class XI, and as a consequence lesser players will be phased out. Jordan is a #8, Keita's position. The other two slots are the #10 (which we now need to fill) and the #6 (which we don't have). Ox and Lallana can come in and do the #8 or #10 role. Jordan is neither good enough defensively to play #6 (gets bypassed/caught out of position too easily, not defensively minded and doesn't sniff out danger), or good enough offensively to play #8 or #10.I think Henderson is a good captain and would be an excellent captain with a character like VVD as vice captain!
Because we had only 30% possession and so almost never had the ball when the opposition had numbers behind the ball?Time to thank Henderson and see him off in the summer, it's clear that we're more mobile and attack minded when he's not in the team. I didn't see as many sideways balls in yesterdays game, wonder why??
I've never been a fan of striker captains. Think the best captains lead from the centre of the park or centre back. Honestly I think Firmino has enough on his plate and I wouldn't do anything that would distract him from destroying opposition defenses.Because he is no longer a starting 11 player I would give the arm band to Firminho or Robertson.
So, what about Robertson ?I've never been a fan of striker captains. Think the best captains lead from the centre of the park or centre back. Honestly I think Firmino has enough on his plate and I wouldn't do anything that would distract him from destroying opposition defenses.
Again, I would say if you're leading from the back, it needs to be the centre. Also, I've not yet got a sense that Robertson would command that kind of respect and control over the game, and remains to be seen if he's even Klopp's first choice once Moreno is match fit. Captains have to be first name on the sheet. Robertson is looking like a great signing, I like him, but I think he just needs to concentrate on his own game for now. If we're talking defenders for the armband it's VVD all day long. He's a born captain.So, what about Robertson ?
He's been solid, but very rarely could you say "Henderson was the difference". Or "what a leader". He's a 7 out of 10 performer. Keita is a 9. Having Hendo lead the team out also doesn't instill any fear in the opposition.Think it's fair to say Henderson has had his chance and he's not captain material, at least not for this club. I can barely count a handful of moments where he's grabbed the game by the scruff and dragged the team to victory, nor too many moments of magic like that Chelsea goal.
The captain of a team like Liverpool - and especially Klopp's Liverpool - needs to be a calming yet energising presence who leads by example and sets the pace and tone for the whole team. For me he's never really done that. I don't even think he's good enough to warrant a guaranteed starting position, given that we play significantly better with the likes of Can and Gini holding the fort and Keita is on his way soon.
Van Dijk has a presence about him. Ron Yeats-esque.I'd like to see VVD take the armband - how he commanded all those around him for his derby debut says it all - but seems unlikely so early in his Liverpool career.
Comes across as very mature. Really good communicator.And I can't believe I'm typing this but The Ox is showing real leadership qualities and it was his tenacity that set the ball rolling for a memorable victory over the Champions-elect last night.
Ouch.Thanks for your service Hendo, but when people are sighing with relief that you're not on the team sheet it's time to go. Hopefully he'll be shipped out at the end of the season to play regular football somewhere far, far away.
Yeah, it was a beaut. I especially loved his reaction. Pointing to the sky to say "got one" then realises how brilliant and significant a goal it was and loses his mind. "F***in' come on!!" I do like Hendo, and he works hard, he just isn't quite the standard for this new Liverpool. 7/10 as you said.That goal against Chelsea was goal of the season for me. Can's was spectacular, but one of those instinctive kicks that came off. Jordan's was pure precision. Met the ball on the rise, and curled it up and over the outstretched arm of Courtois into the top right corner.
Yeah, felt a bit bad writing that and nearly didn't hit send. But the sighs are real. The sighs are real...Ouch.
He really does. You can immediately see the potential and impact he can have at the back. Took charge straight away and looked like he was born in a red shirt. Great signing. My first choice for captain, hands down.Van Dijk has a presence about him. Ron Yeats-esque.
Yeah, that actually surprised me a lot. I expected him to improve on the field under Klopp, but I never saw anything when he was at Arsenal that suggested he would be captain material. Clearly auditioning for the job. He was on social media after the City game saying "really proud of the boys", he was standing in front of Coutinho when he was getting pressed about Barca, all of that. When you put that maturity next to a - dare I say it - Gerrard-eque charge at the box and a belter into the bottom corner, it definitely gets noticed.Comes across as very mature. Really good communicator.
There are certain players who stand out a mile and you just know will excel anywhere. He does things on the ball, his touch, his vision, the quick turns to get out of trouble, his sudden bursts forward, that the opposition is irrelevant (and the Bundesliga ain't exactly a pub league). He's different gravy. There is a very good reason the club forked out 48 million plus a premium just to ensure we get him a year in advance of him actually kicking a ball for us.Get out of here!
Keita hasn't even played for us yet and you already have him as a 9/10 performer.
I just don't know anything about him aside a few youtube clips. Noway am I going to make a definitive assessment from them. I reckon that it would be so much better if we just wait patiently. He's still young and to know how he turns out is still hard to say.There are certain players who stand out a mile and you just know will excel anywhere. He does things on the ball, his touch, his vision, the quick turns to get out of trouble, his sudden bursts forward, that the opposition is irrelevant (and the Bundesliga ain't exactly a pub league). He's different gravy. There is a very good reason the club forked out 48 million plus a premium just to ensure we get him a year in advance of him actually kicking a ball for us.
Haven't been this excited about a player signing for us since Xabi Alonso when he left Sociedad (still can't believe Real (who had been linked with him all year) didn't go after him when we did). Watching Alonso ping 40/50 yard passes to Karpin, Nihat and co. it was as clear as day we were buying class, likewise with Keita.