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Jürgen Klopp: 2018 - 2019



Mascot88

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Man City could be a handful of other clubs. Saudi Arabia were sniffing round Villa, Everton and a couple of others. They didn’t give a shit who they bought and they didn’t care about Man City’s history in the game. The reason they chose City was the free stadium.

They won the lottery, and they’d be nothing without it. Dean Saunders is right. Dislike of them is understandable. Dislike of Liverpool is irrational, and the only reason that fans of other teams want City to win, is because it’s a lot easier for them to square with their own clubs failures. Liverpool win it, we’ll whats their clubs excuse.
 

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Man City could be a handful of other clubs. Saudi Arabia were sniffing round Villa, Everton and a couple of others. They didn’t give a shit who they bought and they didn’t care about Man City’s history in the game. The reason they chose City was the free stadium.

They won the lottery, and they’d be nothing without it. Dean Saunders is right. Dislike of them is understandable. Dislike of Liverpool is irrational, and the only reason that fans of other teams want City to win, is because it’s a lot easier for them to square with their own clubs failures. Liverpool win it, we’ll whats their clubs excuse.
told you, see you in the conspiracy thread. No? ok then.
 



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I am a sucker for looking at the inter personal dynamics and trying to read into them. I acknowledge it is a path to tons of incorrect assumptions and a tool to display your preexisting bias/ideas. However, I thought that moment with Shaq after the Salah goal last week was (potentially) very insightful.

Shaq is a player who many people continue to portray as a bit of an egotist and potential trouble.
He has not played anywhere near as much as most assumed he would
Yet he celebrated a goal from one of the men keeping him out of the side, with the man who has made the decision to not play him, with as much excitement as if it was he who had scored the goal.
 
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Yesterday again showed why Klopp is several notches above than any other manager in the world.

The Pep and his football that people seem to be in awe about, firstly isn't possible without spending tons. Second, Pep is as stubborn or knows no other way to play football than go full throttle. He has no plan B, the teams do not have a middle ground of conserving energy or shutting down opposition, nothing.

Klopp was accused of the same heavy metal football, but the best in the world adapt. Klopp has. Pep hasn't. We play controlled football and can turn up when needed, and are on par without buying a new team like city did. And that'll always make Klopp a superior manager than either of Pep or Mourinho, who the world fawn so much about.
 

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Yesterday again showed why Klopp is several notches above than any other manager in the world.
Although I’m inclined to agree with you, even the most ardent Klopp fan must look at his record of one winning final out of seven as an albatross hanging around his neck.

Hopefully he can start to put that right on 1st June in Madrid.
 

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Although I’m inclined to agree with you, even the most ardent Klopp fan must look at his record of one winning final out of seven as an albatross hanging around his neck.

Hopefully he can start to put that right on 1st June in Madrid.
Baby steps, let’s hope we beat Barcelona first and then see if Spurs and United do anything to help us along the way. Rather celebrate the month of May first before heading to June 1st.
 



Billy Biskix

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Yesterday again showed why Klopp is several notches above than any other manager in the world.

The Pep and his football that people seem to be in awe about, firstly isn't possible without spending tons. Second, Pep is as stubborn or knows no other way to play football than go full throttle. He has no plan B, the teams do not have a middle ground of conserving energy or shutting down opposition, nothing.

Klopp was accused of the same heavy metal football, but the best in the world adapt. Klopp has. Pep hasn't. We play controlled football and can turn up when needed, and are on par without buying a new team like city did. And that'll always make Klopp a superior manager than either of Pep or Mourinho, who the world fawn so much about.
To be fair, Pep is a very good manager and he is able to adapt to a degree. If you've been able to stay awake watching their recent wins over the likes of Fulham, Cardiff etc you will see that they conserve energy by just being miles better than their opponents and passing them to death. Also, defensively City have improved this season. They were brilliant at Anfield in the league game.

As you say, the big difference when comparing JK and Pep is resourcing. Pep's always managed top teams with huge resources. JK hasn't. Even at Liverpool he isn't spending, in relative terms, huge amounts of money and is largely developing the players he has. He's learned management the hard way and from the ground up and that's very noticeable in the way he approaches the job now. He almost has a disdain for trying to solve things through the transfer market which is really unusual and refreshing. Tactically he has come on hugely since he's been at Liverpool and particularly this season. When it comes to man management and making best use of available resources there is no one better in world football.
 

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Yesterday again showed why Klopp is several notches above than any other manager in the world.

The Pep and his football that people seem to be in awe about, firstly isn't possible without spending tons. Second, Pep is as stubborn or knows no other way to play football than go full throttle. He has no plan B, the teams do not have a middle ground of conserving energy or shutting down opposition, nothing.

Klopp was accused of the same heavy metal football, but the best in the world adapt. Klopp has. Pep hasn't. We play controlled football and can turn up when needed, and are on par without buying a new team like city did. And that'll always make Klopp a superior manager than either of Pep or Mourinho, who the world fawn so much about.
Its absolutely correct, he has come in here with massive Zen broom and transformed the whole club; just look at the size of the smiles on the players faces trying on that new strip.
 

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To be fair, Pep is a very good manager and he is able to adapt to a degree. If you've been able to stay awake watching their recent wins over the likes of Fulham, Cardiff etc you will see that they conserve energy by just being miles better than their opponents and passing them to death. Also, defensively City have improved this season. They were brilliant at Anfield in the league game.

As you say, the big difference when comparing JK and Pep is resourcing. Pep's always managed top teams with huge resources. JK hasn't. Even at Liverpool he isn't spending, in relative terms, huge amounts of money and is largely developing the players he has. He's learned management the hard way and from the ground up and that's very noticeable in the way he approaches the job now. He almost has a disdain for trying to solve things through the transfer market which is really unusual and refreshing. Tactically he has come on hugely since he's been at Liverpool and particularly this season. When it comes to man management and making best use of available resources there is no one better in world football.
Yeah the starting points/evolutions of their career could hardly be more different...2.Bundesliga Mainz... at that time...
Even after all this time with Klopp you get the feeling he still wakes up regularly in disbelief at the level of players he gets to work with every day.
 

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I fell down a Youtube rabbit-hole this evening, but in doing so stumbled across a nice vid on JK, bit of background on his early years etc


Not an exhaustive history of our gaffer by any means, but a pleasant enough watch.
 



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"It [the derby] is not something we can influence, and it does not look like United are in a place to, either," Klopp quipped to Sky Sports after beating Cardiff City 2-0. "What was the [United] score today? 3-0, 4-0, to Everton?"
This is some great trolling by JK. MU wins the derby, we say thank you! If they lose to MC, we say "told you so!"
 

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This is some great trolling by JK. MU wins the derby, we say thank you! If they lose to MC, we say "told you so!"
I love that Klopp's trolling can also be interpreted as just honesty. He says what he thinks and let's the results hang out there for themselves.
 



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I was more talking about this
Hmmmm, trying to figure out where that is, ie what street. I have not been to Fenway in years, but I used to go see the Sox there when you could sit in the bleachers for like 5 bucks (mid-late 80s) and watch Roger Clemens strike out 15 a game with plenty of elbow room. I did not realize that there has been such a mashup by Henry of his Red Sox and Reds properties. That's pretty friggin' cool.
 

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We now have more Muslim players in the club, any of them fall under the banned list?
Haha...I seriously doubt it. That ban is way overblown and misunderstood. Only people from various countries (many of them Muslim) have been banned. But then again, that COULD be a potentially serious competitive disadvantage:think:
 

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They'll be at the AFCON anyway.
Look ILLOK, if they want to pass up the chance to play in crappy exhibitions in the States that line the teams' coffers by throwing leading European clubs in front of football starved Americans, there is nothing we can do...lol