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Jadon Sancho (RW) Borussia Dortmund

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I think he's very good personally, one of the very few who I could see give our front three a run for their money. That price tag and the added attention/pressure that comes along with it, especially as an English player in England could be too much for many though.
And he could more or less get away with a lot at Dortmund, they specialise in buying/selling young talents and I guess have to live with being seen as a mere stepping stone by some of them, including the attitude/behaviour that sometimes brings along. Would have to grow up quickly in that regard in the EPL.
Also I have no idea if we're even interested tbh.:p
 

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With Sancho, he's going to be the best and he's already good enough to be our best player. You don't sign someone like that and then tell him he needs to prove himself. He's already proven himself in Germany and with England. He comes in ready to go, and he gets the big wages right from the start. If you want to sign the best players, you have to pay them that way right from the start. If the club want a player like Sancho, he isn't coming in on 90k + bonus.
Sancho shows the potential to one day be as good as Sadio Mane, but he isn't in the same class as him currently.
 

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Well done for spectacularly missing the point..

We are in a global pandemic and they are clearly ignoring all social distancing rules, as a start point. Tells you a lot about their personality.
Sorry I didn't see the date stamp on the photo.
 

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On Sancho:
Very good player, on the cusp of being world class. There’s a chance he could get a bumper contract and not fulfil his potential, but based on what he has shown so far then at the worst he will be a very good Prem level player for years to come. At the best, Ballon D’Or winner, and in that conversation for multiple seasons.

We could do with a fourth top attacker to go ahead of Origi in the pecking order. Plenty of games for four into three, so not a problem, and would help to keep them all on their toes. He is young enough that when Mo or Sadio eventually move on, he slots right into their spot while the likes of Brewster and Elliott are coming into the mix.

As a player, it all makes perfect sense. As a financial proposition, not so much, though if we did it, bring it on.

Transfer fee
Lets imagine we somehow found a way to make the fee work. £100M. Signs are we can’t do it right now, but let’s play along and say we found the money and made it happen, as sometimes the opportunity is too good to miss. Someone posted that sending them Brewster and Elliott on loan for a year or two might sweeten the deal, and given their ability to grow young players, that might be a good idea.

But then the bigger problem?

Wages
If Sancho is looking for £250-300k per week to sign, it won’t happen for us. We pay well, but that amount puts a young player at the top of the pile at Liverpool, or on par with the top of the pile. He’s good, but he’s only getting started in a red shirt, and as such, as a young player he hasn’t earned it yet. There’s every chance that it would upset the Apple cart as we have other world class first teamers who would be knocking on the manager’s door.

If he would come for a good wage (say £150k per week) with a view to renegotiating after 1-2 successful seasons, plus in the first two years he could have performance related bonuses to narrow the gap somewhat to what he could earn elsewhere, then it might possibly be doable. But a lot would depend on the player, and his desire to back himself to achieve all of his dreams when he comes here.

I like the player. Right age. Right skill set. On the cusp of world class, but I’m not going overboard and saying too much, as he has so much more yet to achieve, and his best bet is to keep his head down and keep working, as money has ruined plenty of young players.

Unlikely to come here, unfortunately. In an ideal world our finances would be more certain and the player would have eyes only for Liverpool, which would strengthen our hand. But he looks like he’s bound for Man Utd, and that’s a shame.
 

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Think United may end up missing out;


£100m bid for Grealish on the 11th August?
Nope. 80mil for return of Zaha and extend Lingaard contract who has scored 2 in 2 and doubling his wages.

Press Conference Ole: we wanted Sancho but we have to stay responsible. Lingaard has been great and i believe he will kick off from here. Zaha was young when he was here, he has matured into a leader now. We are getting 2 for the price of 1.
 
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Nope. 80mil for return of Zaha and extend Lingaard contract who has scored 2 in 2 and doubling his wages.

Press Conference Ole: we wanted Sancho but we have to stay responsible. Lingaard has been great and i believe he will kick off from here. Zaha was young when he was here, he has matured into a leader now. We are getting 2 for the price of 1.
More like:
Lingard is a world class potential who already has a a goal per 38 minutes in recent games. He is the best youth player out there and there are signs that he will kick on from here.
And I don't have to say anything new about Zaha - everyone knows that he is a world class player. With Zaha, we will be the best team in the world.
 

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Ravel Morrison was widely regarded as having a very poor attitude and basically spunking his career up against a wall.

Freddy Adu was world class and had an amazing career. I signed him on championship manager 08 and he fucking ripped the premier league, champions league and World Cup apart.
Oh in real life he was nothing more than an over hyped teenager. But the comparison to Sancho who is proven in a top European league as well at international level is way off.

VVD wasn’t getting into the Dutch national team whilst playing in Scotland, an internationally renowned weak league where players like Chris Sutton, Tore Andre Flo and John Hartson look like world beaters, then at Southampton. A team who finished 12-17 in the premier league.

reverse that - do you think an English centre back would be picked for England if he was playing in any Dutch side who regularly finish in the bottom half of the table? No where near the Europa league let alone the champions league...
Wouldn’t happen would it. Some players as good as they are don’t get picked for national sides due for he clubs they play for.... likewise some shit players get picked just coz they play for “big sides” - how else do you explain Phil Jones getting an international career?
I still play CM 01/02 and my first signing is always Maxim Tsigalko a young attacker from Belarus he was absolutely brilliant and scored a shed load. However didn’t do sod all in reality.
 

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Wonder if it‘ll have a 120 million clause as that would be fine for both parties. Sancho on wages closer to what he be on if he’d left and Dortmund still get 120 million
Dortmund want to make sure they still get as much as possible for him next summer.

But it would be in Sanchos interest to keep the fee low because his next club could use that money for his wages, sign on fee, bonuses.

I think if Sancho signs that contract he’ll be available for under €100m next summer.
 

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So funny that Grealish fee is anywhere near Sancho.

I hear the “United are being mugged off Klaxon“ starting up - joyous sound as it is!
 

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Dortmund want to make sure they still get as much as possible for him next summer.

But it would be in Sanchos interest to keep the fee low because his next club could use that money for his wages, sign on fee, bonuses.

I think if Sancho signs that contract he’ll be available for under €100m next summer.
Similar to Suarez in 2014. Sign a new deal to get a guarantee on transfer
 

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Woodwards genius negotiating tactic is to allow other clubs to cyphon as much money as they want from United's account until 'Big Ed' and his team realise that they've been mugged.
Completely wrong.

Ed is that stupid he doesn’t even know he’s been mugged.
 

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Links between Dortmund and Depay getting stronger.

Read nothing but I think it is possible that ManU have a sell on clause for Depay and this could also be part of the negotiations for Sancho.
 

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So, does this mean he stays for now? I know Dortmund set this day as deadline early in the summer, but you never know. Has anyone read anything about whether it was an actual deadline or just..words? They don't seem like the type of club who don't follow up on what they say in public.
 

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So, does this mean he stays for now? I know Dortmund set this day as deadline early in the summer, but you never know. Has anyone read anything about whether it was an actual deadline or just..words? They don't seem like the type of club who don't follow up on what they say in public.
As far as i'm concerned,it's a tactic by Dortmund to get the £100mill+ they want from United,they'll have wanted the deal to be done ASAP so they can move on,bring in a new player to replace him and bed him in early during pre-season.United are in no need to rush atm as they are still in the UEFA Cup and can't use him anyway,it's not like they are in pre-season training either

The window is open till October,so unless United pay the fee Dortmund want,i can see this running for another few months or until deadline day,if no deal is agreed between now and then.