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Liverpool line up loan move for Gameiro to aid attack

Tony Barrett
Published at 12:01AM, January 1 2013

Brendan Rodgers hopes to sign the PSG forward on loan while there remain moves to re-sign Thomas Ince, the England Under-21 midfielder, from Blackpool.

Liverpool are ready to follow up their imminent capture of Daniel Sturridge with a move for Kevin Gameiro, the Paris Saint-Germain forward, as Brendan Rodgers looks to add experience to his attack.

Sturridge is expected to complete his £12 million transfer from Chelsea in the coming days and be registered in time for Liverpool’s FA Cup third-round tie away to Mansfield Town on Sunday. Although that acquisition will eat up the majority of Rodgers’s January transfer budget, the Liverpool manager is still looking to sign Tom Ince from Blackpool on a permanent basis and Gameiro on loan.

Gameiro initially emerged as a possible alternative to Sturridge when that deal stalled but should PSG agree to allow the 25-year-old France striker to leave before the end of the season, Liverpool will look to sign him.

Ince is still expected to return to Liverpool despite a disagreement over his value, with Blackpool holding out for a fee in the region of £6 million. Should a deal not be completed this month, however, Liverpool are prepared to wait until the summer when Ince’s contract expires and his fee would be set by an FA tribunal.

Rodgers is also interested in Nicolas Isimat-Mirin, the 21-year-old Valenciennes centre back. The Liverpool manager would need to generate funds for that, a situation that could lead to the departure of Sebastián Coates, who is interesting Napoli, Juventus and Lazio.

Queens Park Rangers asked Liverpool if they would let Coates go out on loan but that request was rejected and the Uruguay defender will only be allowed to leave if a significant offer is received. Joe Cole is expected to sign for QPR after his hopes of rejoining Lille were dashed.

Liverpool have taken steps to prevent the further spread of a virus that prevented Rodgers from attending their 3-0 victory over QPR on Sunday after it also affected several players and members of staff. The first team were told to stay away from the club’s training ground yesterday.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/liverpool/article3644696.ece
 


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Is there something wrong with the Sturridge move? I thought Gameiro was used as a bait for Sturridge.

Having said that, if Sturridge is coming, I think there is no need for Gameiro. A more experienced striker in the mould of Villa, Huntelaar or Lorente is what we need. Even a Defoe or Bent would do. Proven goal scorers who are not very long term options.
 

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Would be a great squad player because he offers a lot, but not really spectacular at anything, so wouldn't really make a great starter. The easiest comparison to make is to Bellamy in his second stint here, though Gameiro also has six more years at his peak. At seven million Euro, we'd be smart to pick him up, but he's not the answer to our problems at the forward position. A very good squad player, but that's it. My opinion....
 



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Your comparison is somewhat wrong. The only thing that stopped Bellamy from being a fixed starter in the team were his knees and not his abilities. A healthy 26-years-old Bellamy would walk into to our starting XI of the last two years. Since you say that a healthy 26-years-old Gameiro won't be a starter then you can't really compare the two and in that case I fail to see why he'd want to replace PSG's bench with ours when he has options to stay in France and go to a team that'll play him.
 

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Your comparison is somewhat wrong. The only thing that stopped Bellamy from being a fixed starter in the team were his knees and not his abilities. A healthy 26-years-old Bellamy would walk into to our starting XI of the last two years. Since you say that a healthy 26-years-old Gameiro won't be a starter then you can't really compare the two and in that case I fail to see why he'd want to replace PSG's bench with ours when he has options to stay in France and go to a team that'll play him.
Not that he wouldn't be in our starting XI. More that he shouldn't be. If we had a LFC-caliber XI, Gameiro wouldn't make it. I wouldn't play him ahead of Sturridge or Borini, and I damn sure wouldn't play him ahead of Suarez. So yes, Bellamy (and hence, Gameiro) would make our current XI. But I'd hope we don't bring in Gameiro as a player to instantly improve our starting lineup this month.
 
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Can he be any worse than Downing (not good enough), Sterling & Suso (lots of potential but not ready yet)?

I don't know what's the situation with Borini's injury. Is he due back soon? Has Rodgers mentioned him lately? If not, maybe that's the reason we're only seeking a loan deal.

ATM, in our front three, we have only Suarez and Sturridge as senior and experienced forwards. We need another one. It looks as though it's between Ince and Gameiro. I can't tell which option is better because I haven't seen much of either.
 

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Gameiro is probably better in a central position while Ince might offer more from the wide positions. Kevin looks better at scoring goals while Tom has more pace. The Frenchman has more experience as well.

I say why bother paying any money for Ince when he's a free agent in the summer. Save the money or bring in a DM or/and a LB either on loan or a permanent basis.
 



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I say why bother paying any money for Ince when he's a free agent in the summer. Save the money or bring in a DM or/and a LB either on loan or a permanent basis.
He's not. Check the Ince thread.

We don't need a DM, we have Lucas and Allen and that's more than enough.

As for a LB, I don't rate Enrique. Robinson will be great but needs 1-2 years on loan to develop. If we can get someone experienced between the ages of 27-29 to replace Enrique that'll be great.
 

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Tom Williams ‏@tomwfootball

Reported Liverpool target Kevin Gameiro on his future: "Right now I'm at Paris and I hope to be until end of the season." (via @RMCsport)

Tom Williams ‏@tomwfootball

Gameiro: "I was lucky enough to score some goals in first half of season. Hopefully that'll help me scrounge a bit more playing time."
 

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He's not. Check the Ince thread.

We don't need a DM, we have Lucas and Allen and that's more than enough.

As for a LB, I don't rate Enrique. Robinson will be great but needs 1-2 years on loan to develop. If we can get someone experienced between the ages of 27-29 to replace Enrique that'll be great.
Well the article at the top of the page says that Ince will be a free agent in the summer either way he'd be cheaper than even if he's not on the last 6 months of his deal. The last thing we need is yet another youngster whose contribution at the top level is an unknown.
 

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Well the article at the top of the page says that Ince will be a free agent in the summer either way he'd be cheaper than even if he's not on the last 6 months of his deal. The last thing we need is yet another youngster whose contribution at the top level is an unknown.
we thought Adam was going to be a lot cheaper in the summer, but he wasnt. I think Blackpool will again try to hold out for what they are asking now.My hope is that we can do a deal loaning players to Blackpool as part of the deal. (possibly the same as with Birmingham for Butland)Gameiro definitely sounds like the quality of player we should be looking at on loan to reinforce our squad, possibly with an option to buy if they do the business.
 
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The last thing we need is yet another youngster whose contribution at the top level is an unknown.
Agreed. We need players who can contribute right now and not in 1,2,3 years time.
However, there's no telling how much can a certain player contribute until he plays for you.
Experience isn't always what's important. Spearing gave us more than the former Denmark captain, Christian Poulsen, for example.
If Ince can contribute to us the same way Adam Johnson had for a transitioning Man City then great, money well spent.
 



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He's not. Check the Ince thread.

We don't need a DM, we have Lucas and Allen and that's more than enough.

As for a LB, I don't rate Enrique. Robinson will be great but needs 1-2 years on loan to develop. If we can get someone experienced between the ages of 27-29 to replace Enrique that'll be great.
Allen is most definitely not a DM; he was tried there in Lucas's absence, the result being that our central midfield was overun time and time again by sides who decided to make a game of it. Allen is a true CM and was only used further back because we didn't have a Lucas replacement.

The Holding player is a specialist position which requires excellent positioning and discipline and if you can't tackle cleanly and well you end up being a liability to the team by giving away lots of FKs in dangerous areas. Asking CMs to do the job of a DM is just asking for trouble.

The fact that we've only had one DM in the first team squad since the dreadful Poulsen was jettisoned amounts to sheer negligence on successive managers' parts if you ask me.

I'm happy that we seem to be interested in Gameiro btw; he's a much better option than Ince imo. All we have to do now is convince the player that it''s in his best interests to come to Anfield.
 
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I completely disagree. At the start of the season the team didn't play well but Allen was one of the brightest spots playing in Lucas' role.
Allen doesn't have the attacking and creative abilities to play CM but he reads the game well, moves quickly to intercept and release the ball to the nearest player.
I actually don't remember Lucas looking as good in the DM position at Joe's age. It's not a bash on Lucas, it's a compliment to Allen.

As for Gameiro, it depends on where we'll get the best out of both Suarez and Sturridge. If the best thing is for one of them to be the central striker than we'll need Ince (or someone like him) more than an out-and-out striker such as Gameiro.
 

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Yes, I think that he has all the required attributes to be a successful player for LFC ...
Because he has an exotic sounding name? Well, surname anyway lol I'm totally unconvinced about loan players, especially for only half a season. I said it about Sahin and despite his injuries he has made no impact at all. The French league is not a patch on the Premiership, and if he can't cut it there then I really dunno.
 

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Because he has an exotic sounding name? Well, surname anyway I'm totally unconvinced about loan players, especially for only half a season. I said it about Sahin and despite his injuries he has made no impact at all. The French league is not a patch on the Premiership, and if he can't cut it there then I really dunno.
who said he cant cut it in the French League? He isnt getting playing time because of who else is in the team...There have been plenty of players on loan that have performed well. Nothng wrong in a loan deal. if a player cant perform while on loan, then it isnt a player you want to sign on a permanent deal.
 

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who said he cant cut it in the French League? He isnt getting playing time because of who else is in the team...There have been plenty of players on loan that have performed well. Nothng wrong in a loan deal. if a player cant perform while on loan, then it isnt a player you want to sign on a permanent deal.
There's plenty wrong with loan deals imho, especially from Europe - it's a big transition from the French league to the Premiership - I wouldn't expect much out of a player in the first 6 months.
 



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There's plenty wrong with loan deals imho, especially from Europe - it's a big transition from the French league to the Premiership - I wouldn't expect much out of a player in the first 6 months.
There is a big transition for players from most leagues... it doesn't mean it won't work out.Gameiro is a quality player in the French league. There is no reason to suggest that this would be riskier than most other loans or transfers.
 
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Two years ago, I wanted this lad at Liverpool because we lacked a quick and reliable goalscorer. I haven't had the chance to see much of him since he moved to PSG but I heard that his record is decent in a team that doesn't quite suit him, nor does it use him consistently. Suarez - Gameiro - Sturridge... Well, that's somewhat of a gamble but it doesn't contain Downing or Cole, so I wouldn't be against it, especially as it is a loan signing.
 

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Two years ago, I wanted this lad at Liverpool because we lacked a quick and reliable goalscorer. I haven't had the chance to see much of him since he moved to PSG but I heard that his record is decent in a team that doesn't quite suit him, nor does it use him consistently. Suarez - Gameiro - Sturridge... Well, that's somewhat of a gamble but it doesn't contain Downing or Cole, so I wouldn't be against it, especially as it is a loan signing.
Is Gameiro able to play as a LF or RF?
 

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There is a big transition for players from most leagues... it doesn't mean it won't work out.Gameiro is a quality player in the French league. There is no reason to suggest that this would be riskier than most other loans or transfers.
It's true some players settle straight away, but taking a loan player at this stage of the season seems nothing more than a distraction to me.
 



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Is Gameiro able to play as a LF or RF?
Out of necessity, yes, pretty much like Borini. He's very similar to him, just not as hard-working and much more lethal in finishing. If Rodgers restores him to his Lorient days form, we will have a top class goalscorer here. Had Valencia managed to grab the hold of him back then, he would have moved to a very big club for a very big fee by now.
 
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It's true some players settle straight away, but taking a loan player at this stage of the season seems nothing more than a distraction to me.
Can see what you mean, but I think we need to get bodies in the door to reinvigorate the squad. An experienced finisher like Gameiro, who offers different qualities to anyone else in our squad, including the incoming Sturridge and/or Ince, would really improve us. I'm not sure there are any better strikers available on loan than him (given that Barca won't loan Villa)..and after spending 12m on Sturridge it doesn't seem like we have the cash for another 10m+ purchase, so I'd rather take Gameiro on loan than buying some 4-5mp young striker. PSG is willing to send him out. Lille and Dortmund were two other clubs that showed some loan interest in recent weeks. Think we'd be in pole position if it stays that way (Dortmund's interest has cooled anyway).
 

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Here's an informative series of Tweets about Gameiro:

Karl Matchett ‏@karlmatchett
Liverpool target #Gameiro: last season scored 11 in 34, this season 5 in 12. largely sub this term, started most last. rarely plays full 90.
Karl Matchett ‏@karlmatchett
#Gameiro: hit a lot of goals early last season, 8 in 1st 10 Ligue 1 games.after only 3 in 24 from Oct-May. this season has started 3, sub 9.
Karl Matchett ‏@karlmatchett
#Gameiro: what this season translates to is a great record at taking his chance when given them - only 13 shots, 5 goals. 38% conversion.
Karl Matchett ‏@karlmatchett
#Gameiro: he's played a total of about 380 mins, giving him a rate of 1 goal every 76 mins - thats the same as Javier Hernandez of MNU.
Karl Matchett ‏@karlmatchett
#Gameiro: certainly shows good movement and calm finishing.lots of games last season questions reliability/long termism.loan could be ideal.
 

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at first i was a little excited about the Gameiro links, I might be wrong about this, but now i am a little bit worried that all the forwards we seem linked with under BR are all of a similar type.

They all appear to be Centre forwards who have been pushed out wide, rather than wingers or number 10's (apart from Ince). I guess it might not make a differene, but i cant help but feel that it reduces the flexibility of the team.

I suppose i was hoping for some players who can beat defenders with trickery rather than just clever runs and perhaps some pace.
 

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You need proper forwards in the 433 that Rodgers plays. The front line isn't winger-striker-winger. If there is room for a winger then the other two positions should be forwards.
 



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