Kylian Mbappé (FW) PSG

What will Mbappe be leaning on?

  • The number 6, which he cheekily turns upside down into a 9, waggling his eyebrows

  • Mikey Edward's elephant-sized cock

  • Piled up lifesized cutouts of Benteke, Carroll, Jovanovic, and Voronin

  • Maria's tea set

  • ISMF's ego for starting this thread

  • A simple conference table, because he has fully accepted being a humble part of the red machine

  • The burnt-out remains of the redcafe server

  • None of the above coz he ain't fookin comin', man

  • A big VAR screen, to freak out all Abu Dhabi fans


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JustHitMyHead

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Inevitable that we will lose Salah next summer, I can see it happen. I think it has also proven that if you buy top drawer quality, you get what you paid for, and especially with Klopp as the manager. Mbappe is a young man, though had become such a big star, still a young man. I would expect him to be influenced by both Pogba and Neymar back then, after moving to PSG and winning the World Cup, but he didn't. So I really don't mind taking a punt on this fella if we were to lose Salah, and use that money to buy him. His stock won't fall too far off since he has that star power, so if it doesn't work out, he won't be like Coutinho. Besides, Klopp is not being managed by his players, unlike Valverde being handled by Messi.
Unless we completely plan to fudge FFP accounting... he will cost us more than Salah.

We can't go and pay £880,000 per week (if his rumoured raise is true). That just destroys the entire wage structure by a lot and all our existing players may start looking for double.
 

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Unless we completely plan to fudge FFP accounting... he will cost us more than Salah.

We can't go and pay £880,000 per week (if his rumoured raise is true). That just destroys the entire wage structure by a lot and all our existing players may start looking for double.
Firstly we won’t break FFP rules as we are not in the red since we sell to buy. We have surplus. Secondly, I have no idea where you got the £880K a week from, because his latest numbers I know of is about £350K a week.
 

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Inevitable that we will lose Salah next summer, I can see it happen.
I can't get my head around why it would be "inevitable" that we'll lose Salah next summer. We are reigning Champions of Europe and have one of the very best teams in the world. Salah is making tons of money with us and doesn't have the attachment to Barca/Real that the South American players have etc. Why would he want to leave? I can't see it, maybe I'm just naive.
 

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I can't get my head around why it would be "inevitable" that we'll lose Salah next summer. We are reigning Champions of Europe and have one of the very best teams in the world. Salah is making tons of money with us and doesn't have the attachment to Barca/Real that the South American players have etc. Why would he want to leave? I can't see it, maybe I'm just naive.
By next summer all of our front 3 will be 28, with Firmino being the eldest (he's 28 in October). Their value is not going to get much higher and we'll need to have some top quality forward options under the age of 24 coming through as natural succession planning. I don't know if it will be Salah but I think it's almost certain we'll sell at least one of them. If Brewster's pushing through then it could be Firmino although he's also a versatile option for AM so perhaps it won't be him but the chances are that it will be one of Sadio, Bobby or Mo.
 

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I can't get my head around why it would be "inevitable" that we'll lose Salah next summer. We are reigning Champions of Europe and have one of the very best teams in the world. Salah is making tons of money with us and doesn't have the attachment to Barca/Real that the South American players have etc. Why would he want to leave? I can't see it, maybe I'm just naive.
No matter what one say during an interview, no matter how we are being perceived right now in the footballing circuit, Real Madrid and Barcelona will always have that "prestige" (notice it's in inverted commas) label stuck with them. Look at how they had fallen after Ronaldo left the club, yet nothing stopped them from able to go out and sign players that they wanted. Mane and Salah may not be South American, they aren't from Liverpool either, nor do they have any attachment with us prior to playing for us.

Reason for players to move - 1. Money, 2. Silverware, 3. Money, 4. Trophies, 5. Money, 6. Manager/Head Coach and finally 7. Money.
 

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No matter what one say during an interview, no matter how we are being perceived right now in the footballing circuit, Real Madrid and Barcelona will always have that "prestige" (notice it's in inverted commas) label stuck with them. Look at how they had fallen after Ronaldo left the club, yet nothing stopped them from able to go out and sign players that they wanted. Mane and Salah may not be South American, they aren't from Liverpool either, nor do they have any attachment with us prior to playing for us.

Reason for players to move - 1. Money, 2. Silverware, 3. Money, 4. Trophies, 5. Money, 6. Manager/Head Coach and finally 7. Money.
Would money not also play a factor though Eddie?
 

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Disagree on all counts.

1. It's not inevitable that we lose Salah. He is reportedly happy with LFC and recently signed a new deal. He also won the European Champion's cup with us. This is loser mentality to believe we must lose our best player. Why would we give up on our best player when we are the Champions of all Europe?

2. Mbappe scored a truck load of goals... in an inferior league. He has a ton of talent, don't get me wrong but scoring a bushel of goals on the most talent laden and richest team in France doesn't mean you've proven you can be a superstar in the premier league nor that he has what it takes to lead his team to the ECC finals.

3. A transfer fee in excess of £150m is hardly a punt and that is likely what it would take to sign him away from PSG. They are rich but they will look to recoup their investment even if Mbappe turns in a 'transfer request' which might not even be a thing in France.

4. Most likely Mbappe will end up in Real Madrid as they love to splash the cash, FFP be damned. Liverpool will spend reasonably. Just look at their non-spending this window. Klopp doesn't sign players to mega deals for a 'punt'. He looks for the perfect fit before he agrees to sign anyone.

Inevitable that we will lose Salah next summer, I can see it happen. I think it has also proven that if you buy top drawer quality, you get what you paid for, and especially with Klopp as the manager. Mbappe is a young man, though had become such a big star, still a young man. I would expect him to be influenced by both Pogba and Neymar back then, after moving to PSG and winning the World Cup, but he didn't. So I really don't mind taking a punt on this fella if we were to lose Salah, and use that money to buy him. His stock won't fall too far off since he has that star power, so if it doesn't work out, he won't be like Coutinho. Besides, Klopp is not being managed by his players, unlike Valverde being handled by Messi.
 

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Disagree on all counts.

1. It's not inevitable that we lose Salah. He is reportedly happy with LFC and recently signed a new deal. He also won the European Champion's cup with us. This is loser mentality to believe we must lose our best player. Why would we give up on our best player when we are the Champions of all Europe?
All good to disagree.... but at the very least, read my follow up post before calling people "loser mentality". Footballers' happiness has limits, and what they say and what they do after can be very different. They can be happy today and want away in winter. I don't live in a bubble....
 

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Thought he came across as a very level headed young chap in that interview. Yes, he does say he's a superstar but then he is isn't he? He didn't seem big headed about it just proud he's done so well. Don't think we are in for him but certainly wouldn't be upset if we pulled it off.
 

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Well he's stating the obvious, doesn't he? That's why he won't come to us, as we never sign superstars. That's Real Madrid's speciality.
And I think you need that swagger/arrogance here.. Did you hear Salah pre-game (and post-game) saying we only drew because he didn't start last time.. Tongue in cheek yes but under that is a steely arrogance/confidence (coming from our manager in fact!).
 

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Any change from 250?
Who knows. Thing is, he already at the one club who'd likely be willing to spend that kind of money on a player - the Spanish two seem pretty tapped out right now, and for all their money City haven't spent anything like that on a single player yet.

I would imagine when he does get sold it doesn't come near the sum paid for Neymar.
 

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Any change from 250?
Who knows. Thing is, he already at the one club who'd likely be willing to spend that kind of money on a player - the Spanish two seem pretty tapped out right now, and for all their money City haven't spent anything like that on a single player yet.

I would imagine when he does get sold it doesn't come near the sum paid for Neymar.
For such a player, it comes down to his own choice. The moment will come soon when he'll want to try himself in a stronger league. He'll let his contract run out a bit, while informing PSG that he wants to leave. PSG will then extract a maximum of money for him. Par for the course. But will they get 250m? I highly doubt that. Not even Real Madrid will spend that much. But he'll probably go for a world-record fee. Real Madrid like to break that kind of record, as they did with Ronaldo at the time.

He's definitely going there, and nowhere else. The script is already written, and the date when he'll change is most probably decided (next summer?). Sorry to all who think that we have a chance, but take Klopp by the word, he's reliable: we are not in for him because he's too expensive, that's all.
 

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I've said it before that the price on him is prohibitive and eye watering even to those who could actually do it. Would not surprise me in the least to see him going on a free when his contract expires or for a lesser amount with 1 year left on his contract where PSG at least gets something. He is young enough, and good enough, that either will not matter to him personally in the slightest.

Having now said that, its fairly obvious that he will be moving to us for 200m this summer. Only logical, innit. #BringMbappeHome
 

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And I think you need that swagger/arrogance here.. Did you hear Salah pre-game (and post-game) saying we only drew because he didn't start last time.. Tongue in cheek yes but under that is a steely arrogance/confidence (coming from our manager in fact!).
After the game the Sky Sports guy (Shreaves?) gave him the MotM award and then asked him to present it to Hendo. Salah the laughed at the meanness of giving him an award to then only tell him it isnt is. There is a level of arrogance required to crack that sort of joke, but that's the sort or arrogance that also sees him willing to get the ball to his feet with 3 defenders on him and still take it upon himself to make something happen. Sure, it can become toxic, but look at how much defending he has put in over the last two hard fought games.
 

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After the game the Sky Sports guy (Shreaves?) gave him the MotM award and then asked him to present it to Hendo. Salah the laughed at the meanness of giving him an award to then only tell him it isnt is. There is a level of arrogance required to crack that sort of joke, but that's the sort or arrogance that also sees him willing to get the ball to his feet with 3 defenders on him and still take it upon himself to make something happen. Sure, it can become toxic, but look at how much defending he has put in over the last two hard fought games.
Yep 100%, there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance and Klopp seems to have got the team on the right side of that currently.

That's why I'm not worried by Mbappe publically stating he is a superstar, Klopp would meet him and make his measure.. If he didn't indicate he'd work for the team he wouldn't sign him - talent would become irrespective.
 

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Here a nice little compliment from the player towards our lads and Klopp.


But remember, that does not mean that he's coming to us. ;)
We get him only if we lose Mo and/or Sadio in the summer. And that's how the remainder of the players see it too, methinks.
 

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He's got the second highest transfer fee ever (at 18!), probably earns the most (or at least in top 5 wage earners, haven't looked that up), and is already the most important player for a stacked French team. May be slightly bad taste to refer to himself as a superstar, but he isn't wrong. Who knows how it sounds in French instead of the English translation.

Yeah, I'll still have him.
 

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So lets look at what the situation is with Mbappe.

World famous mega star that is still really young.

Hasn't let the ego get to him, Klopp has used him and Trent as the examples for young players to look to when it comes to attitude and work ethic.

Currently one of the top 4 forwards on the planet with Messi (aging), Salah and Mane also being in that honoured list and only just turned 21.

Subject of a long term courtship by Real Madrid who almost certainly can't afford him at top value price and are seriously pissing PSG off with their activity.

Doesn't seem to be probable that he will stay at PSG long term and doesn't look like he will extend his contract with 2 years left this summer.

Real seem like they might be laying the groundwork for a reduced (but still expensive) deal in 2021 when he has 12 months left on his deal. If he is saying "Real or nobody" and entering the last year of his deal then PSG (even with their money) will need to accept whatever is offered.

PSG would probably prefer to sell this summer when at top value if they have to sell but there's very few teams that could even hope to do that (if any).

If you're Mbappe there is probably only between 2 and 5 clubs that are now worth moving to. And most of them have lots of disruptions with manager changes and such so is it worth moving yet?

In my fantasy head our stability appeals to the player and us not being Real appeals to PSG who would prefer to be a bit more realistic with us now than risk being fleeced by Real later or lose him for free at the age of 23.

I know money required will be astronomical but we have plenty, we're making plenty and not spending any of it. If Klopp wants to pay a fee of £150-200 million I legitimately believe we could if theres no other business. Especially with sales.

Looking at wages seems impossible at first but Nike have invested a lot with us, if what they pay Mbappe increases significantly because of him playing and marketing the LFC Nike gear then what LFC would need to pay him wouldn't be as high.

I may be away visiting a Faun in Narnia or flying to Never Never Land to be a pirate with these thoughts but so be it. Till something happens I'm grasping on to these fanciful notions and not letting go.