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Billy Biskix

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Buvak, his disciple of 17 years left himself. We sold ward. Mignolet will likely move to napoli which would be a good move for him.

I'm mystified how achterberg kept his position for almost 10 years now.

We finally have a top goalkeeper, although it will take one whiff of suspect coaching from achterberg before klopp says enough is enough and decides to part ways.

I'm sorry to say but I sense that his UEFA Pro license coaching badge is what is keeping him in the job. Do we have to have a set amount of fully licensed coaches at the club?

I do agree that Klopp tends to back a lot of the maverick characters in the club like lovren and karius until they get better, but only to a certain extent. Skrtel wasn't going to work out. Klopp seems to have turned it around with sturridge whos back in form.

If achterberg is that good, he should be aiming for a higher position elsewhere.
Klopp hasn't kept Achterberg because he needs a quota of coaches with UEFA pro licences or a quota of mavericks. He's kept him because he thinks he's a good coach. I don't know if Achterberg is good, bad or indifferent at his job but I do know that Klopp is one of the best in the world at his. So it's literally incredible to me that he could watch a young keeper he put all his faith in last season crumble in front of his very eyes at the CL final, know deep down that his goal keeper coach was to blame but choose to ignore that and spend £60 million on another goalkeeper instead.

Maybe he doesn't think it's the coaching. Maybe he thinks the keepers just weren't up to it in the first place and that recruitment is to blame. It's hard to come from a club with a profile like Sunderland or Mainz and make the step up to Liverpool. Totally different level of expectation and pressure. Klopp couldn't have been more obvious about where he thinks the problem lies by doing an interview bigging up his goalkeeper coach the week after he'd broken the world record fee for a keeper. Let's hope he's right.
 

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Klopp hasn't kept Achterberg because he needs a quota of coaches with UEFA pro licences or a quota of mavericks. He's kept him because he thinks he's a good coach. I don't know if Achterberg is good, bad or indifferent at his job but I do know that Klopp is one of the best in the world at his. So it's literally incredible to me that he could watch a young keeper he put all his faith in last season crumble in front of his very eyes at the CL final, know deep down that his goal keeper coach was to blame but choose to ignore that and spend £60 million on another goalkeeper instead.

Maybe he doesn't think it's the coaching. Maybe he thinks the keepers just weren't up to it in the first place and that recruitment is to blame. It's hard to come from a club with a profile like Sunderland or Mainz and make the step up to Liverpool. Totally different level of expectation and pressure. Klopp couldn't have been more obvious about where he thinks the problem lies by doing an interview bigging up his goalkeeper coach the week after he'd broken the world record fee for a keeper. Let's hope he's right.
But Achterberg is also part of the transfer committee as he is heavily involved in the scouting and recruiting of goal keepers on top of their coaching, so if the keepers weren't up to the job in the first place, and Achterberg is involved in their scouting and recruitment than he is failing in his job.
 

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But Achterberg is also part of the transfer committee as he is heavily involved in the scouting and recruiting of goal keepers on top of their coaching, so if the keepers weren't up to the job in the first place, and Achterberg is involved in their scouting and recruitment than he is failing in his job.
Just think about the logic of what you and others are saying about Achterberg and what it says about Klopp.

And that's me done on Achterberg in case people start to think I'm his agent or his mum.
 

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Maybe im being a bit naive here but having played as a goal keeper for last 10 years due to injuries stopping my blossoming career as a CB i think a gk coaches roll is a bit different to outfield coaches.
The problem with the GK’s position is that every situation ie corner, free kick is different. Most of these situations are very competitive as you challenge your own players as well as the opposition.
I would expect a gk coaching role to be more tactical, looking at how the opposition usually work, ie if a forward is a 1 on 1 whether he shoots early, goes round the keeper, etc.
In terms of coaching a keeper at their weaknesses, i would have thought it would involve more than the GK coach as you would want to combine it with other sessions. Ie the team learning to defend/attack corners/set pieces.
I think in summary, i am not defending or criticising JA but am of the opinion it is not as black and white as people may think.
 

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Stepping away from the ayes or nays on Achterberg, if you look at the team as a whole the general consensus is that we are, across the board, improving each and every player. Even the chaotic Moreno has looked good at times! The progress of the younger players like TAA and Gomez, Robertson's development, the rehabilitation of Lovren. Even the older, more experienced players like Bobby have moved forward to a greater or lesser extent. To me that is a sign of good coaching, man management and team building. And that comes down not just to Jurgen but to the whole of the coaching and developmental staff (including the tea ladies!). If there was any doubt that Achterberg wasn't doing a decent job I am confident he would have been shown the door years ago.
Karius and Mig were never going to be suitable for a title challenge, they were stepping stones, in my opinion. From Rodgers team to Klopp's there were always going to be some who survived and many more who would fall by the wayside. The proof will obviously be in the pudding this year but I honestly believe we will continue to improve each season with the current backroom staff and I have full faith in all of them.
 

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To all those saying that Klopp would have got rid of Achterberg if he was as bad as some of us believe he is, can you say that you've never come across anyone in a job that they were totally shit at, yet somehow managed to hoodwink their superiors into thinking they were good when everyone else saw that they were out of their depth and had no clue as to what they were doing?
 

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To all those saying that Klopp would have got rid of Achterberg if he was as bad as some of us believe he is, can you say that you've never come across anyone in a job that they were totally shit at, yet somehow managed to hoodwink their superiors into thinking they were good when everyone else saw that they were out of their depth and had no clue as to what they were doing?
Yes, classic George Costanza! Achterberg has learned from the best.




George: “Yeah, when the season starts. Right now, I sit around pretending that I’m busy.”

Jerry: “How do you pull that off?”

George: “I always look annoyed. Yeah, when you look annoyed all the time, people think that you’re busy. Think about it,”

Elaine: “Yeah, you do! He looks very busy!”
 

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Yes, classic George Costanza! Achterberg has learned from the best.




George: “Yeah, when the season starts. Right now, I sit around pretending that I’m busy.”

Jerry: “How do you pull that off?”

George: “I always look annoyed. Yeah, when you look annoyed all the time, people think that you’re busy. Think about it,”

Elaine: “Yeah, you do! He looks very busy!”
I was thinking more about my own personal experience and how often I would look at people in my company and think How the fuck have you not been caught out for being useless?

But yes, George Costanza is absolutely spot on.
 

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I was thinking more about my own personal experience and how often I would look at people in my company and think How the fuck have you not been caught out for being useless?
But yes, George Costanza is absolutely spot on.
Ha, I remembered reading that Klopp said he always gets to work early but Achterberg is already there, watching goalkeeping videos. It just reminded me of George, looking busy - I imagined Achterberg (relaxed with his cornflakes) watching breakfast tv and then switching his computer over to goalkeeping stuff when he sees Klopp arriving.
 

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Liverpool hire specialist throw-in coach
Thomas Gronnemark holds the world record for the longest throw-in

Liverpool have hired a specialist throw-in coach to help their chances of winning silverware.

Danish coach Thomas Gronnemark will work with the first team on a part-time basis.

Gronnemark has worked at Schalke O4, Hertha Berlin and FC Midtjylland, with the success of the Danish side in the Europa League in 2015 attributed to their set-piece plays.

He holds the world record for the longest throw-in at 51.33m.

"Midtjylland showed that the long throw-in can be a weapon, if you can do it with the correct technique, precision and tactical awareness," Gronnemark said.

It's very important that it's a flat throw, because if it's too high it's easy to defend.

"If you can make a long throw-in precise and flat, together with some tactical aspects, then it's much easier to score."

http://www.skysports.com/amp/footba...list-throw-in-coach?__twitter_impression=true

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...liverpool-boss-jurgen-klopp-appoints-15075332
 
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Liverpool hire specialist throw-in coach
Thomas Gronnemark holds the world record for the longest throw-in

Liverpool have hired a specialist throw-in coach to help their chances of winning silverware.
Paul Merson

"Why they have to sign this foreign nobody when we have plenty of British and Irish long throw in experts like Rory Delap"
 

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Paul Merson

"Why they have to sign this foreign nobody when we have plenty of British and Irish long throw in experts like Rory Delap"
Yes, always these terrible foreigners, probably Klopp had more the interests of the club in mind as opposed to Merson. But what do I know? Merson seems to speak only openly about what millions of Brits have voted for. Anyway, this is how it comes across for me.



Edit... insert video, this guy is amazing :shocked:

http://www.throwinworld.com/courses/long-throw-in-academy
 
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Yes, always these terrible foreigners, probably Klopp had more the interests of the club in mind as opposed to Merson. But what do I know? Merson seems to speak only openly about what millions of Brits have voted for. Anyway, this is how it comes across for me.

Edit... insert video, this guy is amazing :shocked:
For his next trick, Mr. Gronnemark will attempt to volley Paul Merson into the goal from the edge of the centre circle.

Merson's an absolute helmet. He makes Robbie Savage sound intelligent by comparison ... and that takes some doing.
 

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midgetland beat man united in the europa cup no?
Yes.
This is out of the link I've posted above...

Thomas Gronnemark is known as the worlds leading soccer Throw-in expert, and is also holding the official Guinness World Record "Longest Throw-in" with 51,33 meters.

He is also a former european sprint champion, and have been using his knowlegde to work as a soccer speed coach. He has helped many professional and youth players to gain extra speed on the pitch.

Thomas has coached over 2000 players from clubs like:
  • FC Midtjylland (Beat Manchester United at home in the Europa League)
  • Schalke 04
  • Hertha Berlin
  • A professional English Club (Secret)
 
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Liverpool have recruited the world record-holder for the longest throw-in as the latest specialist coach to their backroom staff.

The manager Jürgen Klopp googled Thomas Gronnemark after reading in a German newspaper that the Danish coach was able to hurl the ball 51 metres and invited him to Anfield.

Gronnemark is now contracted to Liverpool — the only English club that he works with — and has been holding sessions with the first team to improve their skillset.

The 42-year-old spent time with Liverpool on their pre-season camp in France and his approach focuses on trajectory and precision, as much as throwing the ball huge distances.

Liverpool can be awarded more than 50 throw-ins a game and Klopp’s desire for his players to be better in all departments prompted him to telephone Gronnemark, who is also working with the club’s academy.

Gronnemark’s methods brought success for Midtjylland in his homeland and he now holds a number of sessions with Liverpool’s first team each month. His input has been embraced by the players.

Klopp’s desire to make the appointment reflects the evolution of coaching in every aspect of the game.

The Chelsea head coach Maurizio Sarri is known for his meticulous approach to set pieces, with 33 different routines earning him the nickname “Mister 33”.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...d-holder-thomas-gronnemark-as-coach-kbqpk8cwl
 
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Excellent.. we are doing everything we can to increase the quality and options of the squad. Always thought that throwing is one of our weakness let alone long throw.
 

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Yes.
This is out of the link I've posted above...

Thomas Gronnemark is known as the worlds leading soccer Throw-in expert, and is also holding the official Guinness World Record "Longest Throw-in" with 51,33 meters.

He is also a former european sprint champion, and have been using his knowlegde to work as a soccer speed coach. He has helped many professional and youth players to gain extra speed on the pitch.

Thomas has coached over 2000 players from clubs like:
  • FC Midtjylland (Beat Manchester United at home in the Europa League)
  • Schalke 04
  • Hertha Berlin
  • A professional English Club (Secret)
Ya but he's a still a foreign nobody because merson hadn't heard of him. Probably missed out hearing about him became he was in the jacks doing some coke when people were talking about him
 

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I'd like to see us do a lot more at corners as opposed to throw-in's, I honestly never think we look threatening from either side. In tight games like Saturday was, they can be invaluable.
 

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Klopp explains appointment of throw-in coach

Jürgen Klopp has explained why it made sense for Liverpool to employ the services of specialist throw-in coach Thomas Gronnemark.

At his pre-Leicester City press conference on Friday, the manager confirmed that the Dane has been working with the Reds as part of their training programmes.

“I think it’s not only important to me, it’s important to everybody,” said Klopp.

“To be honest, I’d never heard about a throw-in coach. How it is as a football manager, you know a lot about different things – I played the game, I’ve been managing since around about 18 years or so – but that doesn’t mean I’m a goalkeeper specialist and I’m obviously not a throw-in specialist.

“I know about different movements, what we always did, but it was not 100 per cent clear – maybe it’s my fault – how I can improve the guy with the ball, not only the movements of all the other guys.

“When I heard about Thomas, it was clear to me I wanted to meet him; when I met him, it was 100 per cent clear I wanted to employ him. Now he is here and we work on that from time to time.

“We use his information as well during the weeks when he is not here. We use it of course for the Academy as well. It’s good.

“You cannot have enough specialists around you. I must always be the guy who makes the decisions on when we use all these specialists but you cannot have enough. We have the fitness, medical department, we have the nutrition, and now we have somebody for throw-ins.

“He’s a good guy, to be honest. He has already [made a difference]. The boys like it; when you have somebody who knows what he is talking about, it always helps when you want to improve something.”

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/314486-jurgen-klopp-thomas-gronnemark-liverpool
 

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He still in work? So glad Sky dumped him Years ago, he offers nothing but platitudes and always came across as a bit slimey.

Anyhow our throw ins often end up with the opponent so this is a good move.
 

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He still in work? So glad Sky dumped him Years ago, he offers nothing but platitudes and always came across as a bit slimey.

Anyhow our throw ins often end up with the opponent so this is a good move.
I hope it's not the distance he's aiming for, but players movement and timing of when to use that long throw ins. We dont' really have someone that could rise up and head the ball in, and we can't expect Van Dijk to go to the opposing box every time we have a throw in at the final third.