Liverpool's 50 Greatest Ever Players - The Vote

Broomy

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TIA's 50 Greatest Liverpool Players

Reading through the forums I came across an interesting post written by Forum Member @soberphobia where he compares Luis Suarez v Kevin Keegan :

soberphobia: "The question is who has had the most positive impact on the club? Easy answer Keegan. He came to us when we were just a good 1st division club and left when we were the dominant one. Who is the better player? Suarez by miles in fact i am not sure if we have ever had a better player. We have had players that have been good for longer and we have had players with similar or even better scoring prowess but i really can't think of any player as rounded as Luis."

The above post reminded me of a post back in April 2009, where TIA Forum Member BOJDE counted down TIA's 50 Greatest Liverpool Players as voted by TIA Forum Members...

Nine years later, with the World Cup action on in the background on the forums, I thought it might be good idea to have a go at rekindling some of your memories of past players here with a new 2018 version of TIA's 50 Greatest Liverpool Player Countdown and see if any new players make the list....

Looking back over the last 126 years, we have witnessed some incredible emotionally-charged nights, trophies that have been won and lost by a single goal, the dramatic days that propelled the club to unparallelled glory at home and abroad, the tears that have been shed by bitter disappointments as well as the bitter failures and the goals which have entered the game's mythology to become shared treasures....

Behind those stories are Legends and Heroes who will be revered by fans never to be forgotten.... 741 players have played in competitive matches for Liverpool Football Club since 1892....

I know what some of ye will be thinking here... “Not another one of those countdowns”.... Trying to narrow down your own countdown you will soon begin to realise what nonsense it is... Selection becomes a near impossible conundrum as you realise just how many outstanding footballers there have been at Anfield over the years and you try to decipher the word 'Greatness' and what it truly means.... But then sure it might be a bit of fun over the next few weeks and get ye out of the rumour mill threads!!

I know the selection process may have some limitations... Some members will struggle to vote for a player based on reputation which you may not have seen play from the 1920’s verses a player you may have watched at Anfield over the past few seasons with every action scrutinised with millions of hits on youtube... Then there is the complication of comparing players from different generations, for example the change in the pass back rule over two decades ago...

However, i'm sure we've all heard about the heroes of bygone days, from Elisha Scott, Albert Stubbins, to Harry Chambers and Jack Parkinson, to Liverpool's oldest goalscorer - Billy Liddell aged 38 years, 55 days (against Stoke City, 5 March 1960) including many more players to consider...


How the voting will work
  • Forum Members are asked one simple question: who in your opinion has been the Greatest Liverpool Player Ever?
  • Forum members must choose 30 players each, and rank their selection in order from 1-30, No 1 being their choice of the best player
  • The No 1 choice of each forum member will be awarded 30pts, No 2 given 29pts, down to 1 point for their No 30 choice. All the votes will then be added together...
  • A player needs to receive votes from at least three (maybe five depending on number) forum members to qualify for the list.
  • If players are level on points in the scoring, the number of individual votes cast is used as a tie-breaker.

NOTE: Forum Members MUST choose 30 players each



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741 players have played in competitive matches for Liverpool Football Club since 1892....

Who will make it into your Top 30 Greatest Liverpool Players Ever....

For a bit of fun, Give it a go and see who will make your list and we'll do a countdown towards the end of the summer...
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Zinedine Biscan

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#2
Interesting idea. I will definitely be taking part, but it may take some time to compile a list and rejig it until I'm happy with the order, if I don't put one up for a while!

I'll edit this post with my list when it's ready.
 

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So, where possible, I've added my thoughts and reasonings to choices, but some are purely gut feeling so not easily explained. But for my list, it is

1) SIR King Kenny - No doubt, hesitation or debate needed. Anyone that has any different answer needs their head examined

2) Kevin Keegan - Was the entree, befor ethe main course. The key to our establishing our dominance in the 70's before leaving for Hamberg and us getting Sir Kenny

3) Steven Gerrard - Mr Liverpool, it's so hard not having him at No. 1, but sadly without the same success as King Kenny and Keegan, he was only ever going to be 3rd.

4) Graeme Souness - The player Souness is a totally different beast to the manager Souness. No way would I want him back as manager, but the midfield general that tore apart opponents in the 80's and left the best of Europe cowering in fear, I would love that one back to add some steel and mongrel to current our midfield

5) Jamie Carragher - Not the most technical or skillful player, but was the fan living the dream of playing for this club and he wore his heart on his sleeve and left every ounce of blood and sweat on the pitch. Never had a game where you could question his passion, motivation or effort and that is something very rare to find.

6) Xabi Alonso - watching him was like watching Mozart or Picaso compose music or paint, pure perfection

7) John Barnes - Farkn hell, I cannot believe I have him so low, but I am struggling to figure out who I would drop just to raise him up a few spots?

8) Jan Molby

9) Luis Suarez - Similar to Barnes, I am shocked that I have him as low as I do, although the fact that his time here never produced the trophy success of others, it is kind of tough to get him higher up. Partly due to his numerous suspensions and partly due to his lesser time at the club compared to others makes it harder to have him higher up the list.

10) Tommy Smith

11) Ian Rush

12) Robbie Fowler

13) Craig Johnston

14) Alan Hansen

15) Alan Kennedy

16) Alan A'court

17) Tommy Lawrence

18) Steve Highway

19) Billy Liddell

20) Albert Stubbins

21) Emlyn Hughes

22) Ray Clemence

23) Ian Callaghan

24) Ronnie Whelan

25) Ian St John

26) Ron Yates

27) Steve McMahon

28) Jimmy Case

29) Phil Thompson

30) Fernando Torres

Bloody hell! That is so much harder than I thought as so many great players that I could have included who just sadly didn't fit within the limit of 30 players
 

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1) Sir Kenny Dalglish
2) Graeme Souness
3) Steven Gerrard
4) John Barnes
5) Ian Rush
6) Luis Suarez
7) Kevin Keegan
8) Jamie Carrager
9) Ian Callaghan
10) Peter Beardsley
11) Alan Hansen
12) Ian St John
13) Ray Clemence
14) Robbie Fowler
15) Tommy Smith
16) Ron Yeats
17) Alan Kennedy
18) Xabi Alonso
19) Steve McMahon
20) Phil Neal
21) Emlyn Hughes
22) Phil Thompson
23) Ronnie Whelan
24) Jan Molby
25) Mark Lawrenson
26) Fernando Torres
27) Javier Mascherano
28) Jimmy Case
29) Steve Highway
30) Steve Nicol

There you go. That’s a really quick run off the top of my head. I’m sure I’m missing someone, and try as so might I can’t get Paul Konchesky in the list.
 
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1) Steven Gerrard
2) Sir Kenny Dalglish
3) Ian Rush
4) Graeme Souness
5) John Barnes
6) Phil Thompson
7) Kevin Keegan
8) Steve Heighway
9) Robbie Fowler
10) Michael Owen
11) Steve Mcmanaman
12) Ian St. John
13) Roger Hunt
14) Ian Callaghan
15) Jamie Carragher
16) Peter Beardsley
17) Ray Kennedy
18) Jan Molby
19) Ronnie Whelan
20) Phil Neal
21) Luis Suarez
22) Sami Hyypia
23) Ron Yeats
24) Tommy Smith
25) Emlyn Hughes
26) Mark Lawrenson
27) Ray Clemence
28) Alan Kennedy
29) Phillipe Coutinho
30) Mark Lawrenson
 

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1) Kenny Dalglish
2) Steven Gerrard
3) Alan Hansen
4) Billy Liddell
5) Elisha Scott
6) Ian Rush
7) John Barnes
8) Graeme Souness
9) Kevin Keegan
10) Terry McDermott
11) Luis Suarez
12) Ian Callaghan
13) Tommy Smith
14) Phil Neal
15) Roger Hunt
16) Ian St. John
17) Jamie Carragher
18) Ray Kennedy
19) Robbie Fowler
20) Gordon Hodgson
21) Peter Beardsley
22) Emlyn Hughes
23) Ron Yeats
24) Phil Thomson
25) Ray Clemence
26) Xabi Alonso
27) Fernando Torres
28) Steve Highway
29) Tommy Lawrence
30) Ronnie Whelan

I've tried to rank them more according to their longevity and contribution and less in terms of pure ability. Still I'm not particularly pleased with the order.

EDIT: Added Roger Hunt
 
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#8
1) King Kenny
2) Graeme Souness
3) Ian Rush
4) John Barnes
5) Alan Hansen
6) Steven Gerrard
7) Kevin Keegan
8) Jamie Carragher
9) Peter Beardsley
10) 'Crazy horse' Emlyn Hughes
11) Xabi Alonso
12) Ray Clemence
13) Robbie Fowler
14) Luis Suarez
15) Tommy Smith
16) Ron Yeats
17) Alan Kennedy
18) Ian Callaghan
19) Steve McMahon
20) Phil Neal
21) Sami Hyypia
22) Ian St. John
23) Phil Thompson
24) Ronnie Whelan
25) Jan Molby
26) Javier Mascherano
27) Mark Lawrenson
28) Jimmy Case
29) Steve Highway
30) Fernando Torres


(pheww... that was quite hard. So many top players left out, and none of our current players makes it there yet)
 
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1) Sir Kenny Dalglish
2) Graeme Souness
3) Ian Rush
4) John Barnes
5) Alan Hansen
6) Steven Gerrard
7) Kevin Keegan
8) Jamie Carragher
9) Luis Suarez
10) Peter Beardsley
11) 'Crazy horse' Emlyn Hughes
12) Xabi Alonso
13) Ray Clemence
14) Robbie Fowler
15) Tommy Smith
16) Ron Yeats
17) Alan Kennedy
18) Ian Callaghan
19) Steve McMahon
20) Phil Neal
21) Ian St. John
22) Phil Thompson
23) Ronnie Whelan
24) Jan Molby
25) Javier Mascherano
26) Mark Lawrenson
27) Jimmy Case
28) Steve Highway
29) Fernando Torres
30) Mohamed Salah

(pheww... that was quite hard. So many top players left out, and none of our current players makes it there yet)
apart from mo salah ?
 
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You're absolutely right. I'll have to amend my list!
it's difficult lol Sami gets in for me because not only was he great at defending but he appeared to improve those around him . I've included owen even though i know he won't get a lot of mentions he was a sensational striker - frightening to think what he could have done in this current side had been playing now. European Footballer of the Year . Such a shame he went to the scum and ruined his legacy .
 

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Off the top of my head, without complicating things much, but knowing that 30 players isn't enough and there'll be a fair few missing...

1) Gerrard
2) Dalglish
3) Rush
4) Barnes
5) Hansen
6) Souness
7) Hughes
8) Liddell
9) Keegan
10) Clemence
11) Neal
12) Yeats
13) Callaghan
14) Grobbelaar
15) Carragher
16) Fowler
17) Smith
18) Hyypia
19) St. John
20) Hunt
21) Toshack
22) McDermott
23) Molby
24) Heighway
25) A. Kennedy
26) Lawler
27) Nicol
28) Thompson
29) Suarez
30) Beardsley
 

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I'm not going to include anyone who hasn't won either a League championship or European cup winners medal. And there'll be a lot of Scots in the top ten. It might take a while though. Great idea.
 

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Off the top of my head, without complicating things much, but knowing that 30 players isn't enough and there'll be a fair few missing...

1) Gerrard
2) Dalglish
3) Rush
4) Barnes
5) Hansen
6) Souness
7) Hughes
8) Liddell
9) Keegan
10) Clemence
11) Neal
12) Yeats
13) Callaghan
14) Grobbelaar
15) Carragher
16) Fowler
17) Smith
18) Hyypia
19) St. John
20) Hunt
21) Toshack
22) McDermott
23) Molby
24) Heighway
25) A. Kennedy
26) Lawler
27) Nicol
28) Thompson
29) Suarez
30) Beardsley
Which Thompson - Max, Phil or Peter ?
 

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1.) Gerrard
2.) Barnes
3.) Rush
4.) Kenny
5.) Beardsley
6.) Hansen
7.) Hyypia
8.) Suarez
8.) Fowler
9.) Mcmahon
10.) Alonso
11.) mcallister
12.) Carragher
13.) Houghton
14.) Aldridge
15.) Fowler
16.) Torres
18.) Owen
19.) Molby
20.) Hamann
21.) Mcmanamam
22.) Grobellaar
23.) Nicol
24.) Riise
25.) Staunton
26.) Babbel
27.) Heskey
28.) Riedle
29.) Murphy
30.) Finnan

Might tweet it...
 

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#22
Love this idea,
I am one of those recent generations of fans, hence my experience when we were unstoppable in the 70s and 80s is limited to only videos and documentaries.
Having said that, here's my list:
1) Steven Gerrard
2) Sir Kenny Dalglish
3) Jamie Carragher
4) Ian Rush
5) Liddell
6) Roger Hunt
7) Yeats
8) Hyppia
9) Barnes
10) Higehway
11) Fowler
12) St. John
13) Phil Thompson
14) keegan
15) Grobbelar
16)Molby
17) clemence
18) Callaghan
19) Toshack
20) Souness
21)McDermot
22) Xabi Alonso
23)Elisha Scott
24) Luis Suarez
25) Beardsley
26) Dirk Kuyt
27) Pepe Reina
28) Tommy smith
29) Fairclough
30) Steve Finnan
 

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1) Dalglish
2) Souness
3) Barnes
4) Rush
5) Suarez
6) Molby
7) Hansen
8) Thompson
9) Keegan
10) Hunt
11) Hughes
12) Yeats
13) St John
14) Neal
15) Clemence
16) Liddell
17) Alonso
18) Heighway
19) Kennedy (Alan)
20) Fowler
21) Callaghan
22) Hyypia
23) Beardsley
24) Hamman
25) Nicol
26) Case
27) Whelan
28) McDermott
29) Smith
30) Mascherano
 

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#24
1) Dalglish
2) Souness
3) Barnes
4) Rush
5) Suarez
6) Molby
7) Hansen
8) Thompson
9) Keegan
10) Hunt
11) Hughes
12) Yeats
13) St John
14) Neal
15) Clemence
16) Liddell
17) Alonso
18) Heighway
19) Kennedy (Alan)
20) Fowler
21) Callaghan
22) Hyypia
23) Beardsley
24) Hamman
25) Nicol
26) Case
27) Whelan
28) McDermott
29) Smith
30) Mascherano
No Stevie G?
 

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#25
1) Kenny Dalglish
2) Ian Rush
3) Alan Hansen
4) Graeme Souness
5) Steven Gerrard
6) John Barnes
7) Ray Clemence
8) Keven Keegan
9) Robbie Fowler
10) Roger Hunt
11) Emlyn Hughes
12) Ian St. John
13) Luis Suarez
14) Sami Hyypia
15) Steve Heighway
16) Ian Callaghan
17) Peter Beardsley
18) John Toshack
19) Xabi Alonso
20) Ron Yeats
21) Ronnie Whelan
22) Jamie Carragher
23) John Aldridge
24) Phil Thompson
25) Jan Molby
26) David Fairclough
27) Ray Houghton
28) Billy Liddell
29) Phil Neal
30) Sammy Lee

(ooops, had Alonso in there twice!)
 



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#27
1) Kenny Dalglish
2) Ian Rush
3) Alan Hansen
4) Graeme Souness
5) Steven Gerrard
6) John Barnes
7) Ray Clemence
8) Keven Keegan
9) Robbie Fowler
10) Roger Hunt
11) Emlyn Hughes
12) Ian St. John
13) Luis Suarez
14) Sami Hyypia
15) Steve Heighway
16) Ian Callaghan
17) Peter Beardsley
18) John Toshack
19) Xabi Alonso
20) Ron Yeats
21) Xabi Alonso
22) Jamie Carragher
23) John Aldridge
24) Phil Thompson
25) Jan Molby
26) David Fairclough
27) Ray Houghton
28) Billy Liddell
29) Phil Neal
30) Sammy Lee
Alonso so good he gets on twice?lol

I need a dummy's cheat sheet. I need a list of the top 10 (or around that number) strikers, top 10 wingers, mids, defenders, etc. etc. that I can look over and generate my list from. I'll give it a try
 

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#28
God Damm this is so hard....just getting to 30.......let alone in best of order. Anyway heres mine ( subject to remembering someone lol )

1.Steven Gerrard
2.Kenny Dalglish
3.Greame Souness
4.John Barnes
5.Ian Rush
6.Robbie Fowler
7.Luis Suarez
8.Ian Callaghan
9.Billy Liddell
10.Alan Hansen
11.Emlyn Hughes
12.Ray Clemance
13.Kevin Keegan
14.Sammi Hyypia
15.Roger Hunt
16.Xabi Alonso
17.Ron Yeats
18.Jamie Carragher
19.Mark Lawerenson
20.Michael Owen
21.Fernando Torres
22.Peter Beardsley
23.Jan Molby
24.Phil Neal
25.Steve Highway
26.Steve Nicol
27.Ronnie Whelan
28.Steve McMahon
29.Steve McManaman
30.John Aldridge

30 probably isn't enough.......100 isn't enough, but these are the players that made an impression ( through either watching live, or watching on video when i was a kid being in my low 40s )
 

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#29
1) Sir Kenny
2) Ronnie Whelan (yes, that high!)
3) John Barnes
4) Peter Beardsley
5) Alan Hansen
6) Ian Rush
7) Graeme Souness
8) Phil Neal
9) Lawro
10) Suarez
11) Ray Kennedy
12) Keegan
13) Heighway
14) Gerrard
15) Hughes
16) Aldo
17) Steve mcMahon
18) Clemence
19) Yeats
20) Hunt
21) Fowler
22) Xabi Alonso
23) Nicol
24) Terry McDermott
25) Phil Thompson
26) Callaghan
27) Torres
28) Salah
29) Carra (just for perseverance and total number of apps and doing very OK)
30) Hyypia


Not including anyone (bar Hunt, maybe Yeats/Heighway a bit too) that I did not see in person, though some as a very small kid only. No Elisha, Hodgson, Liddell etc. I just don't rate the more current era ones (like Gerrard and Carra) as highly as most will inevitably do. Gerrard great but no clearly 100% best role. Some of Stevie's very best stuff came at RW in a 4-4-2, then the golden partnership (at the #10) with prime-time Torres, then a latter-day switch to more DM playmaking duties. Tough to rate this stuff, also so very tough to compare with LFC being at it's absolute pomp and then by far the very best team in the entire world, for a good few years too. I would give a bit more of full credit to those who did put us on the absolute level of greatness, compared to those who maybe struggled manfully(if often in vain and some good moments given too) to try to emulate this past glory stuff
 

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Cheat sheet of sorts. Probably left out a bunch, and if it goes against the nature of the thread feel free to delete. In alphabetical order (and mostly true to position as I remember them), some of our greats:

Forwards:
Aldridge, Beardsley, Dalglish, Fowler, Hunt, Keegan, Kuyt, Owen, Rush, St. John, Suarez, Torres, Toshak

Wingers:
A'Court, Barnes, Berger, Callaghan, Coutinho, Garcia, Heighway, Houghton, Ray Kennedy, Liddell, McManaman, Smicer, Peter Thompson

Mids:
Alonso, Case, Gerrard, Hamann, Sammy Lee, Lucas (ducks for cover), Mascherano, McDermott, McMahon, Molby, Souness, Whelan

Defenders:
Carragher, Finnan, Hansen, Hughes, Hyypia, Alan Kennedy, Lawrenson, Neal, Nicol, Riise, Tommy Smith, Thompson, Yeats

GK:
Clemence, Dudek, Grobbelear, Lawrence, Reina

That's 56 names in all, plus whoever I'm sure I forgot. Good luck.

Edit: Don't think this has any of the current players, Salah, Mane, Firmino, etc. etc.
 
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