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Nabil Fekir (AM/ST) Lyon

What will Fekir be leaning on?

  • The Wall of Champions, pointing at the newly installed 6

  • A giant screen playing the leaked video from last year which we'll use for VAR

  • The railing at Melwood, looking forlornly at it cos he knackered his knee again

  • A bog standard table, with a bog standard pen, and a sheet of random paper

  • A furious Man City fan demanding to know why THEY aren't in the picture as champions

  • Big Virg, because fucking anyone can lean on him

  • An enormous pile of cash that Mick Edwards saved us

  • The crushed spirit of James Pearce

  • His mum, because he's not fucking coming


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Anfield rd Dreamer

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That's not what I said or asked!
Just answer the question!
Err you did. Your post was talking about how we shouldn't necessarily be put off by it:

"I didn't know Lallana had an ACL when was that?
You did miss out Gomez' potential knee problems. :-)
I think your assumtions over Fékirs knee are out of order. Special training isn't at all extraordinary in modern professional football many players have individual physical training sesssions. After an ACL leg muscle strengthening can go on for quite a long time after."

Your last line of your post was this question:

"I'm just wondering if you think we should look at selling Domez and AOC in the near future?"

Now I'm assuming that is a straight up challenge asking those who think we shouldn't sign Fekir if they also think we should sell Gomez and Ox. If that wasnt what you meant maybe you should re-read your post I initially replied to and reword it. Because that's definitely the only meaning I can take from that post.
 

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Unless I’m very much mistaken, no medical can reveal that any joint is about to pop. If it’s functionig fine now, who’s to say it’s going to go bang tomorrow?
A medical can flag concerns with the way it was repaired, and reveal a high liklihood that further problems will occur
 

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Reading the medical notes achieves that without the actual medical though doesn’t it?
Which may be part of the issue they had over the Fekir deal. They probably had sight of the medical notes but that didnt tally with what they were seeing during the medical and so they asked for another one.
 

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Which may be part of the issue they had over the Fekir deal. They probably had sight of the medical notes but that didnt tally with what they were seeing during the medical and so they asked for another one.
I think you should stay on the safe side and speculate that perhaps our (LFC) exam identified something new or that had been missed.
Even so it appeared that Lyon weren't of the same opinion and that's often what it boils down to (particularly in medicine) opinion.
So we have speculation based on unknown opinions, I wonder if one day we will get a 'full disclosure' on this from someone and if anyone will take any notice if this happens. :-)
 

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Which may be part of the issue they had over the Fekir deal. They probably had sight of the medical notes but that didnt tally with what they were seeing during the medical and so they asked for another one.
Not like we've not done this thing before. Loic Remy, well known about his heart condition even before his move to the Premier League, went through our medical and then cancel the deal "due to medical reasons - his heart". We already know his heart condition and we still bid for it. What I know at the time was us trying to ask QPR to drop their price a bit more, and QPR said no to us. We then pulled the plug, release a statement to show fans we are concerned about his health.

It is also normal for us to believe what our club said since we are fans of Liverpool FC, unless you have the privy to read chain of emails/conversation notes which then allow you to form your own judgement based on it.
 

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Not like we've not done this thing before. Loic Remy, well known about his heart condition even before his move to the Premier League, went through our medical and then cancel the deal "due to medical reasons - his heart". We already know his heart condition and we still bid for it. What I know at the time was us trying to ask QPR to drop their price a bit more, and QPR said no to us. We then pulled the plug, release a statement to show fans we are concerned about his health.
We would have been sued to high heaven if we had actually done that.

The relationship between Cardiomyopathy and Sudden Cardiac Death is not that well understood and so there is a tremendous variability of opinion over how to screen for it and what the findings mean. It is also true that a lot of people don't even screen for it at all so there are tons of reasons why different clubs would conclude different things about a player like remy. The only relevance to the Fekir situation is that it indicates we are maybe more sophisticated than most teams in our evaluations.
 

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The only relevance to the Fekir situation is that it indicates we are maybe more sophisticated than most teams in our evaluations.
How do you come to that speculation/evaluation/conclusion?

Considering that Lyon work very closely with one of the best/renown specialists in knee surgery in France.
Really without confirmation of what really went on everything is speculation.
 

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We would have been sued to high heaven if we had actually done that.

The relationship between Cardiomyopathy and Sudden Cardiac Death is not that well understood and so there is a tremendous variability of opinion over how to screen for it and what the findings mean. It is also true that a lot of people don't even screen for it at all so there are tons of reasons why different clubs would conclude different things about a player like remy. The only relevance to the Fekir situation is that it indicates we are maybe more sophisticated than most teams in our evaluations.
We didn't because it isn't a secret that he had a heart condition. Nothing that we cannot disclose to the world from our side to QPR. They did think about it, but they realise no grounds.

As for your last part - Remy had gone and played 80plus games or so, and still actively playing for Lille, alive and kicking.
 

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We didn't because it isn't a secret that he had a heart condition. Nothing that we cannot disclose to the world from our side to QPR. They did think about it, but they realise no grounds.

As for your last part - Remy had gone and played 80plus games or so, and still actively playing for Lille, alive and kicking.
And?
 

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Sounding like Fekir has agreed a £25m move to Real Betis, likely to have to wait until they've sold Lo Celso though.
 

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Ok my tin foil hat theory.

We wanted Fekir this summer but couldn't be arsed with Aulas doing his big I am routine, so we sat back until another club thrashed out an acceptable bid (£26m) so we can swoop in and match it, while Fekir tells Aulus he wants to come to us instead of Betis.

We get Fekir for a price without the Liverpool tax, jobs a good 'un.

:well done:
 

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Currently having a medical at Real Betis
 

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£18m plus £9m add ons. Crazy fee really. I know he has only got one year left on his contract but the whole thing is just fucking weird!!!! It's basically the Solanke fee.
 

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Fekir going to Betis/Napoli for a fraction of last year's fee, Lille still hawking Pepe around unsuccessfully, Sporting doing the same with Fernandes... feels like these are guys who would have previously been guaranteed big-money moves to England, and the market is having to readjust a bit around PL clubs generally (ignoring United for a moment) being a bit more careful with their money compared to recent summers.

I feel like Sporting in particular were banking on an auction for Fernandes, and are a bit surprised no-one's bitten yet.
 

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Ok my tin foil hat theory.

We wanted Fekir this summer but couldn't be arsed with Aulas doing his big I am routine, so we sat back until another club thrashed out an acceptable bid (£26m) so we can swoop in and match it, while Fekir tells Aulus he wants to come to us instead of Betis.

We get Fekir for a price without the Liverpool tax, jobs a good 'un.
Perfect scenario, and hopefully will transpire. I mean, from CL football, to world cup winner, top Real Betis? Makes ZERO sense
 

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The failed transfer last summer 'cost' them £30m. Can't understand why they agreed to have a friendly with us.
 

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They're a side that should be better than they are:

Javi Garcia, Lo Celso, William Carvallho, Cellabos, Jaoquim, Barrgan, Marc Bartra, Tello, Inui

It;s like the club that once talented and highly regarded players go to chill out.
Most of which we've been linked with one time or another!
 
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