Now that they BELIEVE us, WHEN will we win the league?

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This season is over I think. If it gets declared null and void I think that’s football over for me as well. Can’t see myself getting enthused again when we were so close.
Chin up mate. Let’s see what happens. I see the sense in the hiatus. Health first. It’s a good decision. But I think we will be crowned champions for our excellent work this season. Just might take a couple twists and turns along the way, but it’s coming!
 

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If they void the season it would end it for me as well.
You invest time and energy into supporting football and if they just bin it off because they can’t extend it after the virus has passed then I’m not sure I can be bothered to go again.

We only need two games to be played before May. I still think that is possible.
 

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The suspension is till at LEAST 3rd April. Can't see us playing again for some time.

Option 1: The league is voided. But it won't just be this one it'll be all leagues, no promotions, relegations etc up and down the leagues. It's not just us it would be a disaster for.

Option 2: If Euro 2020 is moved to 2021 remaining domestic games can be played over the summer almost like a preseason for next season and everyone gets their summer breaks early.

Option 3: As over 75% of the league has been played if suspended for more than 60 days legally it can be called, in Prem all teams have played 28 games minimum I think? So the Prem table will be a 28 game season not 38. Some clubs will argue that they could have escaped relegation or finished higher if the final 10 games had been played but it may be the only way to do it with some semblance of fairness across all leagues unless Euros get moved.
They could also Extrapulate the league based on current points - so we have 82 points from 29 games, - which is equivalent of 107 points from 38 games. Do this for all the teams - which is kind of the same as Option 3 - but then you have a final league table - winners, Champions League and Europa League places, relegation etc...

I strongly believe that the Euros will move to 2021 giving more time to finish all European leagues.... but if it doesn't, the above is the only reasonable way of closing this season. What is interesting is who wins the cups - and even the Champions League? So we could go into next season as League Champions, and still European Champions.

Whatever happens, we are Champions of the World - and Liverpool, Top of the LEAGUE, L'POOL L'POOL TOP OF THE LEAGUE.
 

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They could also Extrapulate the league based on current points - so we have 82 points from 29 games, - which is equivalent of 107 points from 38 games. Do this for all the teams - which is kind of the same as Option 3 - but then you have a final league table - winners, Champions League and Europa League places, relegation etc...

I strongly believe that the Euros will move to 2021 giving more time to finish all European leagues.... but if it doesn't, the above is the only reasonable way of closing this season. What is interesting is who wins the cups - and even the Champions League? So we could go into next season as League Champions, and still European Champions.

Whatever happens, we are Champions of the World - and Liverpool, Top of the LEAGUE, L'POOL L'POOL TOP OF THE LEAGUE.
Yeah the winners of those cups not yet decided would be waived if the season is ended, something they wouldn't want, especially this far in, but cups not being decided isn't a catastrophe. The whole structure of the league system is what the issue is. Tell teams that have slogged their guts out to get to promotion positions that they can't move up from non-league to football league or into the guaranteed revenues of the premier league? Just can't do it. I like your way but think the way I suggested is already in the rulebook somewhere apparently. If 75% of the season has been played (28.5 games, can't play .5 of a game, all teams have played 28 games some 29) then a league can be called and the table considered final. I don't know how that works when some teams have played a game more than others though. I would think easiest fix would be to wipe off the last league game for each team that has played 29 games and then use the even and as fair as possible 28 game table to determine the placings. Haven't looked to see if the other leagues further down have played 75% or more so don't know how that could work.
 

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If the end of this season is cancelled, then beginning of next season will be cancelled, so combine the two seasons, which means we are 2019/20 and 2020/21 champions.

We also retain champions league.

At the end of the day, I think there is close to 0% chance that the season ends, unless of course the infection rate in China reaches 80%, along with a fatality rate hits 40%. If that happens there will be no chance of quoting this post as its essentially end of the world scenario, and it will be a challenge to get electricity let alone internet.

I still think the entire thing is overblown, however the hysteria is actually helping.
 

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Yeah the winners of those cups not yet decided would be waived if the season is ended, something they wouldn't want, especially this far in, but cups not being decided isn't a catastrophe. The whole structure of the league system is what the issue is. Tell teams that have slogged their guts out to get to promotion positions that they can't move up from non-league to football league or into the guaranteed revenues of the premier league? Just can't do it. I like your way but think the way I suggested is already in the rulebook somewhere apparently. If 75% of the season has been played (28.5 games, can't play .5 of a game, all teams have played 28 games some 29) then a league can be called and the table considered final. I don't know how that works when some teams have played a game more than others though. I would think easiest fix would be to wipe off the last league game for each team that has played 29 games and then use the even and as fair as possible 28 game table to determine the placings. Haven't looked to see if the other leagues further down have played 75% or more so don't know how that could work.
If that were to happen then I think the fairest way to deal with promotion and relegation would be for the top two in the lower division to be promoted and for no teams to be relegated this season. So in 2020/21 only there would again not be any play offs and there would be 22 teams in the Prem but four teams would be relegated with two being promoted. Therefore in 2021/22 everything would be 'as you were'.
 

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If they null and void the season I expect a lot of football fans would walk away and never return.
Was of the similar mindset earlier, but if this actually happens the right thing for us fans to do would be to get behind the club no matter how tough it would be. Else it might very well be a beginning of the end of the club.

Hopefully it'll never come to that though.
 

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According to the Telegraph we will when the league even if the rest of the season is cancelled.

 

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People talking about "null and void" are just trolls trying to piss you off. Don't listen to them and stop repeating their nonsense.

Yes it feels like a bad case of the title winning version of having blue balls but whether we win it in a 28 or 38 game season in the end won't matter. Jurgen is just getting warmed up, this won't be a "one and done". Doubters to believers , keep on believing.
 

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People talking about "null and void" are just trolls trying to piss you off. Don't listen to them and stop repeating their nonsense.

Yes it feels like a bad case of the title winning version of having blue balls but whether we win it in a 28 or 38 game season in the end won't matter. Jurgen is just getting warmed up, this won't be a "one and done". Doubters to believers , keep on believing.
I just think Jürgen's got the right attitude. It's obvious that we have to put our feelings to one side about the season and direct our energies toward keeping ourselves healthy, our loved ones and people we work with (play with or against in pro team sports for example). Winning a trophy or not is a mid range priority – Klopp uses a loose translation of a famous German expression and said, "I’ve said before that football always seems the most important of the least important things. Today, football and football matches really aren’t important at all"
(a nice bonus, if you will).
 

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If they void the season it would end it for me as well.
You invest time and energy into supporting football and if they just bin it off because they can’t extend it after the virus has passed then I’m not sure I can be bothered to go again.

We only need two games to be played before May. I still think that is possible.
They are going to postpone the EC, we have much more time if they want to finish the season.
 

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This season is over I think. If it gets declared null and void I think that’s football over for me as well. Can’t see myself getting enthused again when we were so close.
I feel the same way. My instinct is that they have to find a way of concluding the league - there is too much riding on the league positions and promotion/relegation. There is no way that in any official conclusion we don’t end up as champions.

But if the season is voided, I don’t know if I can carry on. I’ve been waiting for this for thirty years. I’ve seen us get so close, and been hurt so many times, and I can take all that - the shithouse refs, the slips, the questionable tactics, the failed signings. That’s football.

But this feels cosmic. It feels like the Universe saying no. I don’t think I can go again in the face of that.

Even so, the best case scenario feels hollow. We’ll probably be given the league in some administrative exercise. There’ll be no lift. No party. No moment of Euphoria. The monkey off our backs, but still very much giving us a funny look.

And the fucking ‘banter’ that’s coming. You never won the league, waving asterix’s, Tainted Title. Etc. I don’t think I’ve got the strength for these bellends.
 

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I'd rather they scrapped the whole season than just decide to award us with the title based on us being so far ahead..
 

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I'd rather they scrapped the whole season than just decide to award us with the title based on us being so far ahead..
And so no team gets relegated? And promotion from the championship? And who is in next seasons Champions League and Europa League?
 

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And so no team gets relegated? And promotion from the championship? And who is in next seasons Champions League and Europa League?
As mentioned in the TAW video, this is the last year of West Brom’s parachute payments. The financial implications of not finishing the league are huge. There are teams down the bottom who’s survival might hinge on their league placing. Leicester have caught tooth and nail to get that champions league spot.

It’s not just about Liverpool, and whether or not we are/would want to be crowned champions in these circumstances, that’s almost irrelevant to the wider league discussion.
 

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And so no team gets relegated? And promotion from the championship? And who is in next seasons Champions League and Europa League?
I didn't mention any of that, and nor am I remotely interested in it.
 

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I didn't mention any of that, and nor am I remotely interested in it.
I know you didn't mention it, I was just asking what your view of it was - which you have now answered. Thanks.
 

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I'd rather they scrapped the whole season than just decide to award us with the title based on us being so far ahead..
It's 6 points needed from 9 games. It's not as though we're just a few points ahead, where I would agree it would have a ring of hollowness about it. If it was any other club in the same position then I would feel exactly the same. Give them the title.

Hopefully we can still do it on the pitch but if not then I'm with some others on here. I think it would be me done if it was all declared meaningless. Hundreds of pounds spent on going to games this season. All that emotional as well as financial investment for nothing. Of course right now it's all relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things but there will come a point where football is important again and when it does it has to have a semblance of credibility.
 

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The league will be concluded one way or another. Some clubs having a vested interest in annulling it doesn't trump the financial and sporting implications of scrapping the whole thing. Liverpool are going to be champions for 2019/20. Not in the way anyone wanted but the 30-year wait is set to be finally over.

And while the thought of being awarded the title in some boardroom is depressing, it should provide additional incentive for the next season so that the next coronation takes place on the pitch with the fans.
 

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1 plan is to give us the title, and no teams get relegated. 2 teams come up from championship to create a 20 team league next season. League cup gets cancelled for the season to make space.

Next season 5 teams go down.
 

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1 plan is to give us the title, and no teams get relegated. 2 teams come up from championship to create a 20 team league next season. League cup gets cancelled for the season to make space.

Next season 5 teams go down.
have a round robin tournament between the bottom 3 teams, with the team that comes in last relegated,
and then relegate Man City for been cheating bastards,

theres your 2 teams for relegation!