Now that they BELIEVE us, WHEN will we win the league?

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I think if there was like a vote to make us champions most clubs would agree to award us it. Pep would , he knows he has no chance and it would ruin his rep to say no while saying yes would make him to be the messiah. So I wouldn’t worry about board and management level votes. But this 60 days thing scares me, and I don’t think I have it in my for more league heartbreak
 

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I think if there was like a vote to make us champions most clubs would agree to award us it. Pep would , he knows he has no chance and it would ruin his rep to say no while saying yes would make him to be the messiah. So I wouldn’t worry about board and management level votes. But this 60 days thing scares me, and I don’t think I have it in my for more league heartbreak
I’m on my mobile but once I get in to work I’ll try to find the thing I was reading.
 

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The Premier League's decision seems to be at odds with the UK government's plans.

Yesterday in Boris' press conference they showed a bell graph of roughly how many people will be infected at any one time.
the epicentre of the virus is expected to be in 10 - 14 weeks time.

So whats the point of suspending the league until nearer the epicentre?
Surely they'll probably be twice as many people with the virus in 1 month than there at the moment???
 

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The Premier League's decision seems to be at odds with the UK government's plans.

Yesterday in Boris' press conference they showed a bell graph of roughly how many people will be infected at any one time.
the epicentre of the virus is expected to be in 10 - 14 weeks time.

So whats the point of suspending the league until nearer the epicentre?
Surely they'll probably be twice as many people with the virus in 1 month than there at the moment???
They are allowing space for players to isolate and be sure they are clear of the virus before resuming. I’m sure games will be behind closed doors after that point. The suspension is for the players, not the fans.
 

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They are allowing space for players to isolate and be sure they are clear of the virus before resuming. I’m sure games will be behind closed doors after that point. The suspension is for the players, not the fans.
Yeah, no. Reality is that if a few individual cases with players around isolating for precaution is enough to postpone the league then we wont be restarting this season. Can't imagine anyone other than us wanting to continue this season in Autumn - especially if league convinced to give up spurs champs league spot to Leicester - (even though that would be fairest) and they'll all fancy a clean slate. We are not getting the title - unless: we start lobbying furiously; and making citoil style pram throwing attacks that season needs to be determined complete not voided. Need intensive behind scenes work to start now and Klopp (with inherent fairness and decency God love him) needs to be kept 100 percent away from a microphone. If he says we should be given it he will be exposed to ridicule next season if we don't get it (and it will hurt us mentally) and if he says the season should be voided, thats life, more important things than football, etc then that undermines any behind scenes efforts to get us the trophy.

This title is going to have to be won off the pitch, unfortunately.
 
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As @Mascot88 says If players self isolate then they can start the games behind closed doors and get the season finished.
 

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It's absolutely unbelievable that the Premier League doesn't have some sort of backup in place to resolve a suspended league. Cricket has the Duckworth-Lewis system for washed out games which is a mathematical formula that can easily be extrapolated to a league as well. If the league had gotten buy-in from all member clubs about such a system beforehand, as it should have done, there would be no lengthy deliberations or potential heartache for deserved winners. Pathetic.
 

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The Premier League's decision seems to be at odds with the UK government's plans.

Yesterday in Boris' press conference they showed a bell graph of roughly how many people will be infected at any one time.
the epicentre of the virus is expected to be in 10 - 14 weeks time.

So whats the point of suspending the league until nearer the epicentre?
Surely they'll probably be twice as many people with the virus in 1 month than there at the moment???
...you don't wait until people are infected to suspend the league. You suspend it to slow the transmission to the players, their coaches, staff members, and their families.
 

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They are allowing space for players to isolate and be sure they are clear of the virus before resuming. I’m sure games will be behind closed doors after that point. The suspension is for the players, not the fans.

I really, REALLY you're correct. Makes perfect sense. Have you ever thought about becoming a politician? You'd do well.
 

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The problem is that the Premier League equivalent is going to be the Mansour-Glazer system, or something very similar.
The only tiny positive of there not being a continuity plan in place is that if the PL does decide to void the season, FSG can hire some very good lawyers and try and sue the pants of the league.
 

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They are allowing space for players to isolate and be sure they are clear of the virus before resuming. I’m sure games will be behind closed doors after that point. The suspension is for the players, not the fans.
This is correct, but I think Leo's point is fair. I think it is far more likely we are not ready to resume on the current April date than we are.
 

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Its worth noting that due to the suspension our next game scheduled is against City.

If we beat city we win the league we'll be on 85 points, they can only get 84.

We just need to play that 1 game to finish this season off.
One game behind closed doors or void the league - tough one for the PL
 

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The suspension is till at LEAST 3rd April. Can't see us playing again for some time.

Option 1: The league is voided. But it won't just be this one it'll be all leagues, no promotions, relegations etc up and down the leagues. It's not just us it would be a disaster for.

Option 2: If Euro 2020 is moved to 2021 remaining domestic games can be played over the summer almost like a preseason for next season and everyone gets their summer breaks early.

Option 3: As over 75% of the league has been played if suspended for more than 60 days legally it can be called, in Prem all teams have played 28 games minimum I think? So the Prem table will be a 28 game season not 38. Some clubs will argue that they could have escaped relegation or finished higher if the final 10 games had been played but it may be the only way to do it with some semblance of fairness across all leagues unless Euros get moved.
 

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We ARE going to WIN the fucking League. If it's cancelled and current order stands or if we play rescheduled games into August, we are going to win it.
Also based on modeling there's a ton more people about to get sick and about 10 % will need hospitalization with 5% needed intensive care, that's the problem with this virus, likely to need more hospital beds and ventilators than there are available. The only way to slow that down is social distancing.
 

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The Premier League's decision seems to be at odds with the UK government's plans.

Yesterday in Boris' press conference they showed a bell graph of roughly how many people will be infected at any one time.
the epicentre of the virus is expected to be in 10 - 14 weeks time.

So whats the point of suspending the league until nearer the epicentre?
Surely they'll probably be twice as many people with the virus in 1 month than there at the moment???
Yeah but the problem with that ignores that BoJo is a clown and doesn't know what hes talking about and all independent health experts think his plans make less sense than if a room full of type writing monkeys came up with them.
 

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Yeah but the problem with that ignores that BoJo is a clown and doesn't know what hes talking about and all independent health experts think his plans make less sense than if a room full of type writing monkeys came up with them.
The people of Britain are going to deal with this plague in four phases. Then after that, if anyone's bothered we'll turn our attention away from Boris and do something about the virus.
 

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The Premier League's decision seems to be at odds with the UK government's plans.

Yesterday in Boris' press conference they showed a bell graph of roughly how many people will be infected at any one time.
the epicentre of the virus is expected to be in 10 - 14 weeks time.

So whats the point of suspending the league until nearer the epicentre?
Surely they'll probably be twice as many people with the virus in 1 month than there at the moment???
I take it that you are from the UK, mate? Yesterday, you had around 500 recognised cases. Now, it's around 750. So, you'll have twice as many cases as today in two or three days I'd guess...
 

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I take it that you are from the UK, mate? Yesterday, you had around 500 recognised cases. Now, it's around 750. So, you'll have twice as many cases as today in two or three days I'd guess...
My point is, we will probably be in a worst place in 3 weeks time, not a better place.
And it will be even worst in June/July, so I wouldn't put my hopes on then either.

I don't expect us finish the league this season.

It's now about:-
how the places are allocated?
Do we promote and relegate?
Who starts the legal actions?
against who?

Etc...
 

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I take it that you are from the UK, mate? Yesterday, you had around 500 recognised cases. Now, it's around 750. So, you'll have twice as many cases as today in two or three days I'd guess...
That’s confined cases ie someone going to the hospital I reckon it’s in the thousands easily already.
 

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The Premier League's decision seems to be at odds with the UK government's plans.

Yesterday in Boris' press conference they showed a bell graph of roughly how many people will be infected at any one time.
the epicentre of the virus is expected to be in 10 - 14 weeks time.

So whats the point of suspending the league until nearer the epicentre?
Surely they'll probably be twice as many people with the virus in 1 month than there at the moment???
My take is they are trying to flatten the graph and slow down the spike of infections, so the quantity of those infected doesn’t utterly overwhelm health services.

In the mid to longer run, it’s going to do what it is going to do, and there are various models about how many will get the virus. But here nearer to the start of the spread, if we can take measures to slow down the rate of transmission, it might, just might, stop the NHS from being completely overwhelmed, as there just aren’t enough beds, ventilators, and so on to handle the numbers expected.
 

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My take is they are trying to flatten the graph and slow down the spike of infections, so the quantity of those infected doesn’t utterly overwhelm health services.

In the mid to longer run, it’s going to do what it is going to do, and there are various models about how many will get the virus. But here nearer to the start of the spread, if we can take measures to slow down the rate of transmission, it might, just might, stop the NHS from being completely overwhelmed, as there just aren’t enough beds, ventilators, and so on to handle the numbers expected.
My take is the government are greedy and want to keep their rich buddies making money.
 

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As @Mascot88 says If players self isolate then they can start the games behind closed doors and get the season finished.
Only if all the players and staff and refs remain isolated. So that’s no family till the league is finished unless they all get together and have a big epidemic party. Stranger things have happened but it needs to happen now.
 

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Maybe i'm speaking in the heat of the moment and with immense frustration. But IF (and its a big IF), if the league is voided and Liverpool aren't champions at the end of the season, I personally don't feel I could motivate myself to 'Go Again'. Id feel complete apathy towards football in general. Id never stop supporting Liverpool, but I don't think id let it continue to get in the way of family dinners, christenings and my relationship.

I'm old enough to vividly remember the vast majority of our 30yr drought. 2002 and 2009 hurt, 2014 crushed me, and a 97 point 2019 convinced me we would never ever win the league in my life time. But this year was different, it felt like all that hurt, frustration and crippling disappointment was finally coming to an end.
 

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Thanks for sharing TAW interview above. Neil Atkinson speaks a lot of sense. Hopefully the bulk of what he suggests will come to pass.
 
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