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Post match: Brighton v Liverpool (epl 8/7/20 8.15pm)

Man of the match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 25 25.5%
  • Williams [off 45’]

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Henderson [GOAL 8’, off 80’]

    Votes: 30 30.6%
  • Wijnaldum

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Keita [off 61’]

    Votes: 54 55.1%
  • Oxlade-Chamberlain [off 61’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Firmino [off 87’]

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Salah [GOAL 5’, GOAL 76’]

    Votes: 74 75.5%
  • Robertson [on 45’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mane [on 61’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fabinho [on 61’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Milner [on 80’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Minamino [on 87’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    98
  • Poll closed .

Red over the water

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Question - do we need to be concerned with Salah and Mane? I’m not sure that they like each other that much and Is there going to be an element of Mane Wanting to leave to get out of Salahs shadow?
It’s one to watch. Previously it boiled over a bit in the famous incident where Mane was fuming on the bench and it looks to me like Mo is a little too concerned with the golden boot. You have to have a team first ethic, but the other side of that coin, for strikers at least, is a certain selfish streak that makes the best ones so good. With the title won and the games running out, Mo may be guilty of slightly veering toward a personal goal.

I don’t think there’s animosity between them or anything like that, but they don’t seem massively close either. Over the years plenty of teams have been successful with players who didn’t get along. I don’t think I would go so far as to say they don’t get along, but it seems to me there’s a little something there.

It takes a strong and skillful leader to manage the situation and thankfully in Klopp, we have that in abundance.
 

mattyhurst

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This would be downright awful. In the worst case, couldn’t he lift it even if he isn’t in the squad that day?
Of course he can, doesn’t matter who plays in the Chelsea game, I’m sure he will even if he is on crutches.

Be at least nice if he could come on if not mind, still I wouldn’t say it was serious regardless, he might have gone for a scan but as I said you don’t pressure a knee with stamping if he felt it was serious.
 

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Question - do we need to be concerned with Salah and Mane? I’m not sure that they like each other that much and Is there going to be an element of Mane Wanting to leave to get out of Salahs shadow?
If you’re referring to the incident where Mo got to the byline and failed to cut back to Sadio, it looked to me like the lad was trying his best, but Brighton defended it really well. Sadio and Mo get on absolutely fine.
 

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That was more like it,the lads showed up today against a Brighton side who were out to make a decent game of it.
They did that!
Much to like today VVD imperious again,Naby showing at last why we waited to get him,Mo,for the most part was great,Neco on a learning curve but a decent game for his first PL start.
Hendo was good till his knock,hope it is not serious,though I agree with someone else he'll be at the Chelsea game,even on crutches!
MOTM hard,but I'm going for Naby!
 

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I don't think the commentary I was listening to gave near enough credit to Firmino for his role in the first goal. Queued up his shot perfectly, pulled the defender and the keeper towards his angle, then left Salah with half the goal open to slot it in.
 

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Man Naby is starting to show extended highlights of just how good he is, thought he was excellent today. Salah was a beast and should have had 5. VVD continues to be an absolute monster, what's up with Gomez though? Seems way off the pace since the restart. Henderson with another bog standard excellent display in the middle... still a little concerned that once again, Bobby started with a hiss and roar and then by the 30th minute just disappeared.
 

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yeah that was a cracker. this was so much more Liverpool football.
the kid had his cherry busted. very goos performances all round, as usual v\VVD & Allison was exceptional, Salah mom, more for his work rate off the ball so much fun to watch. i do thnk TAA seemed off, go get a good nights rest lad, right after you've had a few pints.

and BHA certianly played well. as a defender myself I like what I saw from lampley his hustle and game intelligence, BUT AS A LIVERPOOL FAN i JUST WANTED TO FUUCKING SmACK HIM EVERY 5 MINUTES.
 

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Just thinking about, and I can't believe I hadn't really thought it. Our form this season just fucking highlights how bullshit it was we didn't win the dam title last season too lol. We have 92 points so far granted, but are still 5 points off last season and it's not like we have the easiest run in either.... so unlucky not have just gone back to back
 

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The goal we conceded was defended poorly, i don't know why is it neither gomez or Trent couldn't have closed in on Trossard. There was another cross in the second half where both Gomez and Trent allowed a attacker to wander into the box almost scoring in that chance too.It was good Robertson came on cause i felt he was more energised to deal with Lamprey down the wing, i liked seeing Neco Williams start as well.
Miniamino again given less minutes to show anything.

Still a win is a win so we can take it. i got to say i don't blame salah for not passing to Mane at all, even if mane wants to get peeved at it, I've seen Mane miss some of those shots, while Salah was on a hat trick at that point. People who have a go at Salah for that need to check themselves. Only the top quality of players have the confidence and the bravery to do some of the stuff he does.
 

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great start and I was hoping that we would get a couple more before half time, but I think we allowed them to come at us. Better second half and pity Mo didn’t manage to tuck the easier header towards the end of the game. TAA was a bit lax, Ox tried but not fully focused on defensive duties, therefore making it harder for Neco
anyways, another 3 points added long may it continue!
 

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I don't think the commentary I was listening to gave near enough credit to Firmino for his role in the first goal. Queued up his shot perfectly, pulled the defender and the keeper towards his angle, then left Salah with half the goal open to slot it in.
Nor on SKY. Tyler is more concerned about what Bobby doesn't do. He probably cannot understand the pieces Bobby does really well.
 

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Very much enjoyed this one. It was a dream start for us which does relieve the pressure but I though Brighton were pretty decent - they tried to make a match of it, played some decent football and deserved their goal.

For us, MotM to Mo - he has looked a threat for the last few games and was hungry for it today. Also voted for Keita who is becoming a presence in the midfield and Hendo for that thunderbolt of a goal - sometimes I wish we would try that kind of shot more often and there you have it perfectly.

A decent enough full debut for Neco. He looked very confident but he is definitely a right footed player and that slows his passing going forward. Having said that, his deliveries were fine. It would have been nice to see how he combines with Mane on that wing.

Overall, though, one of the better games this season.
 

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(...)

Baby and Hendo controlled midfield but Gini had one of those “Invisible Man” days to which he is prone, especially away from home. Ox had a poor first half but looked better after the break, before being replaced by Mané.

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Is that his official new surname now? :LOL:


Very good game from the lads. I had this down as one of the toughest remaining games in our schedule. They had a hard run of games since the restart (Arsenal, Leicester, red mancs, Norwich away), and did well enough. Our two early goals helped a lot of course. But on the other hand, the score could have been far worse for Brighton, with our lads missing several 100% ones.

Consistency. It's now the word which defines us best. That and 'mentality monsters'. No difference at all in performance levels between before and after the corona break. All teams in the league must already be shitting themselves for next season, because we show no signs at all of letting things slip away. Next season, it seems that we'll be there again. (y)
 

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Once we had the first eleven on the pitch the gulf in class was obvious and we cruised in the end. Until then it was an even contest. Defensively we were poor, especially first half. No real shape and very easy to get in behind. Similar to the City game. Williams started well but he was exposed more and more as the half went on and it was the right decision to take him off.

Keita was excellent. Mo was on fire and deserved a hat trick. Thank god for Virgil at the back. Some moments of nonchalant brilliance from him. He is bailing us out back there right now because none of the other defenders are covering themselves in glory since the break. Not a classic team performance but we won, as usual.
A bit disappointed with big Virg at one time in the 2nd half he had to go to ground to tackle, he's losing it ;-)
 
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RE: Salah and Mane

Not sure if anybody else heard Hendo chew Mo’s ear off. Think it was where he was through on the left with Mane in the centre.

ball goes out for a corner (I think)

Hendo

“Pass, pass, pass the ball”

he was fuming
 

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I don't think the commentary I was listening to gave near enough credit to Firmino for his role in the first goal. Queued up his shot perfectly, pulled the defender and the keeper towards his angle, then left Salah with half the goal open to slot it in.
That is the stuff which goes under the radar but it pretty much made Salah's job easy (easier). It was a thing of utter intelligence to be able to think and do all that at that speed. Si Senor!
 

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I thought we lost our edge midway through the first half and BHA looked the better team until after half time. Picked it up again after HT and ran out deserved winners without being particularly impressive. Mo ,Naby and Hendo the stand outs for me. Burnley are always a tough side to beat and are on a good run. We will have to stay on our game for longer to beat them and then it is Arsenal away where we will need to be at our best.
 

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RE: Salah and Mane

Not sure if anybody else heard Hendo chew Mo’s ear off. Think it was where he was through on the left with Mane in the centre.

ball goes out for a corner (I think)

Hendo

“Pass, pass, pass the ball”

he was fuming
No offence to Hendo who i adore and respect like all hell, but who the fuck cares? No seriously, please tell me why Mo should do that? AS it is this team needs goals and Mo is our top scorer right now. In terms of overall goals we are not getting enough contributions from our midfield and then it comes to us either scoring from set pieces , or Mane, or Salah. the system is set for Mo to score along with Mane. People seem to forget how much Mo contributes to our attacking chances, how many key passes he makes , how many openings he makes for the team. Im not saying he is the most important facet of the team , but without Mohammed Salah, we wouldn't have won the league title this year, and that is certainly a fact. It took everything combined together and Salah should be recognised for that fact.

Jurgen would not play salAH if he thought Salah was selfish or anything like that.
 

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The first 10 minutes aptly demonstrated why teams shouldn't try to play from the back against us. Keita put on a clinic; his movement with and without the ball was textbook perfect. Brighton to their credit kept coming on though and got rewarded thanks to sloppiness in possession and loose defending. However, once the second half started and Robertson came on along with Fabinho we asserted total control and cruised to victory #30.

Lots of notable performances; Williams did relatively well, Van Dijk was imperious, Salah was hungry and engaged, Keita as mentioned was excellent. Fabinho who replaced him was really good too. He's been on it these past few weeks, his passing, his shooting, his marking has all come together. And Henderson of course is the metronome of consistency and leadership. His injury is unfortunate and worrying. I don't want to sound alarmist but I remember similar injuries that have resulted in meniscus damage. Hopefully it's not that bad.
 

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No offence to Hendo who i adore and respect like all hell, but who the fuck cares? No seriously, please tell me why Mo should do that? AS it is this team needs goals and Mo is our top scorer right now. In terms of overall goals we are not getting enough contributions from our midfield and then it comes to us either scoring from set pieces , or Mane, or Salah. the system is set for Mo to score along with Mane. People seem to forget how much Mo contributes to our attacking chances, how many key passes he makes , how many openings he makes for the team. Im not saying he is the most important facet of the team , but without Mohammed Salah, we wouldn't have won the league title this year, and that is certainly a fact. It took everything combined together and Salah should be recognised for that fact.

Jurgen would not play salAH if he thought Salah was selfish or anything like that.
You realise Hendo is the captain and is basically enforcing Klopp's wishes on the pitch right?
 

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A bit disappointed with big Virg at one time in the 2nd half he had to go to ground to tackle, he's losing it ;-)
I'm optimistic we'll see a game next season where he literally never has to move one inch backwards, as though he's on the metal rod of the world champion table football player. Except it's him playing from the pitch, if you know what I mean?
 

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MotM for me was either Henderson or Salah. To be honest I'm leaning towards Henderson given the level of control he had on the game.
 

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RE: Salah and Mane

Not sure if anybody else heard Hendo chew Mo’s ear off. Think it was where he was through on the left with Mane in the centre.

ball goes out for a corner (I think)

Hendo

“Pass, pass, pass the ball”

he was fuming
When he was battling the full back and couldnt get the ball under control? Watch it back, he tried to criss and it was blocked. From JH's angle, he wouldnt be able to see that.