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POST MATCH discussion: Everton 2-2 Liverpool

Anthony

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My last note:

How amazing is Suarez?
2 international games where he played 1 at altitude, and I believe he played the full 90 minutes in each
Then has 3 games in a week and was incredible (performance and attitude) today
 

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I can't really decide which one annoys me more. The way we decided to play or the incorrect call. One really bothers me on a theoretical level and for the long-term of Liverpool. The other just endlessly pisses me off about the state of refereeing.

It's debatable what might have happened against United had we not had Shelvey sent off, or if we'd gotten a penalty against Sunderland, but I'm struggling to remember a decision that's gone our way in such a consequential way as those that have gone against us this season. No penalties, no red-carded opposition, disallowed goals (think this is the second). No conspiracy theory required to note that this is just a piss-poor standard of refereeing and it's negatively impacting us in a way it's not impacting certain other teams. In two major games against massive rivals, United have been handed victories. We've had at least 3 points taken from us. Something needs to be done. Three goals scored this weekend - two were offside and given (Arsenal and United) and one definitely wasn't and was disallowed. Why isn't there more attention paid to this? It doesn't matter if it evens out cosmically over the years. There should be some desire to have effective and competent officials involved in making important decisions in the league. Very few professional sporting associations accept such routine incompetence as "the rub of the green". They do things to correct it.
 

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The game left a sour taste once again because of bad referring decisions against us; are there actually any professional and unbiased refs on The Premiership circuit? FA/manure ( an indivisible term if ever there was one) corruption runs deep and is to be rightly despised.

Anyway, I hope BR learns the lesson that unless we play with a proper enforcer in midfield with real physical presence, we are going to be out-muscled by teams who won't sit back and let us play our expansive game. Allen is not the answer, nor is Sahin or Gerrard, not even Jonjo, bless 'im, can be relied upon to impose themselves on opposition midfielders and not give away cheap and costly fks at the same time. We need (and have needed for at least two seasons now) a specialist DM who can cover for Lucas - someone who can tackle consistently and accurately and allow our creative midfielders to play their normal game knowing that their backs are covered should they mess up. We just look unbalanced without Lucas in the team and we badly need an effective substitute; had he been playing today we would have won at least by two clear goals. No problem.

A striker in January? Yes please, but also a DM if you'd be so kind FSG. It might happen.....shyaaa!.
 

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Not to jump on the everybody is against us bandwagon, but i couldn't help myself from getting angry at the retarded comment from an English commentator on Abu Dhabi Sports.

Suarez was over near the corner flag, when a coin thrown by someone from the crowd landed near him.
When he picked it up to show to the ref, the commentator said something like, "OK he's had a coin thrown at him, but he shouldn't be holding it up and bringing everyones attention to it"

What an absolutely moronic thing to say.
 

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That's a new low, Dane. Proper witch hunt stuff
 

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Loved the way he put the coin in his boot lol
He was probably going to save it as a donation to the Everton transfer kitty. You know, the little plastic David Moyes with the the slot in his head, stroking a tiny Leon Osman, outside Goodison.
 

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Had to record the 2nd half, watched it and had to read what was said on here. I kind of had a good idea what to expect. The worst thing was i watched the Utd game before watching the recording and by the end of that game i was feeling like Utd had the refs in their favour already. 2 sendings off, 1 unfairly and then an offside goal given. Went to watch our game and had in my head that the same would happen to us. Was even more upset when the goal was dissallowed but it was like i was expecting it, i didn't even jump up when he scored, just kept waiting for someone to say it didn't count. It's even worse after the replay when you realise it should have counted.

As usual we are talking about how we were robbed of points instead of the way the team played. The officials make that impossible not to do though. BR should be on the phone to Riley tomorrow but i wouldn't blame him if he just decided it isn't worth it. When there was talk of making a super league up (if we could even get into it now) i was gutted but i really hope that it happens now, fair play just isn't going to happen and it's actually putting me off wanting to see our games. I'm so fed up of having a bitter taste in my mouth at the end of our games especially now it's down to the refs rather than our play.

The game itself, well, we didn't keep possession as well as normal and i guess a lot of that was down to their pressing so well. Allen was outfought for a lot of the game but we still had enough from other players to make chances and to win the game. Someone in match said Stevie was playing bad, i'd like to invite them to watch it again. He chased back every time and started a lot of the attacks. In fact he was in my top 3 players. Br changed the system 2nd half and it worked well, was a bit afraid of Sterling getting sent off and people saying that it was BRs fault for not subbing him. Goal should have counted, loved Suarez celebration and Nevilles dive. So gutted right now i can't be bothered following the rest of this thread, just hope MOTD will point out the linesman being talked into flagging and he gets demoted, won't help us but at least a small sense of justice.
 

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Haven't had chance to watch the replay yet, but listening to LFC.tv (Steve Hunter), it sounded like a belter of a derby. Poor call denies us winner. Hmmmm, that is so unusual. Thought Rodgers showed good tactical judgment in halftime changes. A lot of positives.
 

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Would've taken a point before the game and i was expecting a draw, so not too disappointed with the result but the way we earnt the point, to have let a 2 goal lead slip and the disallowed "goal" at the end leaves us with a bitter pill to swallow.

Was impressed with Everton's 1st half comeback, Mirallas looked impressive and i think Brendan got his tactics correct with the introduction of Coates to combat Fellaini and go with Shelvey's physicality instead of perserving with Sahin. Good to see him altering formation and adjusting tactically so soon in the game.Onwards and upwards.
 

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He was probably going to save it as a donation to the Everton transfer kitty. You know, the little plastic David Moyes with the the slot in his head, stroking a tiny Leon Osman, outside Goodison.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks....

Their transfer kitty is shambles compared to us, but maybe that's because they're higher up the table that us so they don't need it as much.
 

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People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks....

Their transfer kitty is shambles compared to us, but maybe that's because they're higher up the table that us so they don't need it as much.
Well that told me for making a light hearted jibe at one of our rivals.

Won't try and have a laugh again, Guv.
 

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I dont understnd why they dont go "upstairs" like they do in Rugby when they are not sure if a try has been scored.

Would sort out all this mess. Same with the Utd winner....which was offside
 

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I like many would have taken a point but it has left a bad taste. Credit to BR, and what can you say about Suarez, loved his play, celebration and also keeping the money thrown at him...... what a guy :lol: . On Sterling he has much to learn and the pressure of playing in a derby at his age will really hold him in good stead for the future.I would like to see him play on the shoulder at times more as he has all the pace and we lack this option really.
 

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Joe Littler ‏@joelittler88
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His parents would be so proud of him
 

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A little disappointed that we were denied the win, but in the grand scheme of things, we started 3 teenagers, Everton had us on the ropes and then we fought our way off - using squad depth and sound tactical adjustment. That will forge a better team.

As for the Bitters, all I can think is 'is that all you have got?'. Supposed in form, veteran team playing against kids, home crowd, and they still needed the ref to save them a point.
Yeah, they didn't have much except the long punts up towards Jelavic and Fellaini. Mirallas was lively, but their collective attacking play wasn't much to cheer for.

I think Pienaar's absense was crucial for them though; him and Baldrick down the left is usually the key to their attacks.
 

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I assume this internet hard man is a Bitter.



His parents would be so proud of him

I assume this internet hard man is a Bitter.



His parents would be so proud of him
Was just reading his twitter, then boom, sorry that page doesn't exist.

What a shitbag.
 

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I dont understnd why they dont go "upstairs" like they do in Rugby when they are not sure if a try has been scored.

Would sort out all this mess. Same with the Utd winner....which was offside
In tennis, a challenge takes about 7 seconds. It won't slow down the game as much as people think as long as it is done the right way. How hard would it be for an review official to rule that goal by Suarez to be onside?
 

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Hope some investigation is lodged and complains as well. That goal cost me money! I wanted it 3-2 to our favour, damn linesman. Also that coin throwing thing, isn't it frown upon?
 

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I think you could use the natural breaks in the game. When goals have been scored and when a foul has been committed. Combine that with Hawkeye or similar for in/out of play debates, and you've probably eliminated 75% of controversy.
 

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Kills the flow of the game, for one. But surely something must be done.
Not really. Suárez scored the third. Let's say ref not sure - tv check, flow not disrupted.

And so on. When the ball goes out, or player dives and so on, play stops for a moment anyway.

Oh and...

WHAT A DIVE!
 

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The number of offside gaff's the officials have gotten wrong this weekend alone has to be a record..the Arsenal and Man U winner, both clearly offiside..and our 3rd, or rather should have our 3rd goal...called offside.

Just sick and tired of the inconsistencies we keep seeing from the men in black..because they are "only human."

Total and utter bullshit.

I could handle the line better than them and could still get the simple simple decisions right.

I can take a 2-2 draw but we should have won this.
 

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Not really. Suárez scored the third. Let's say ref not sure - tv check, flow not disrupted.

And so on. When the ball goes out, or player dives and so on, play stops for a moment anyway.

Oh and...

WHAT A DIVE!
That's one example, but generally play flows out of the offside/ghost goal that isnt/should be allowed. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I think that's the argument.
 



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Disgraceful refereeing. From beach balls to the uncalled penalties to the offside called today, unbelievable. Anyone who thinks it all evens out at the end is misguided. It doesn't.
 

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Thought we were ordinary, never controlled possession, never played our game, Jones distribution from the back was woeful and never allowed us to build from the back and on the occasions when we tried they pressured us into giving it up or passing it back to Jones who would then bomb it forward to nobody.

Obviously the disallowed goal shouldn't have been and we should have taken the 3 points but given how we played I am not completely unhappy with taking a point, was expecting them to grab the winner given the opportunities they had.
 

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That's one example, but generally play flows out of the offside/ghost goal that isnt/should be allowed. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I think that's the argument.
It's the argument the FA have been using for years to excuse inaction.

The reality is that most points where a contentious decision is needed take place in a natural break anyway.

- Should that goal stand? The game has stopped because the ball is in the back of the net.
- Should that be a yellow card? or a red? The game will have stopped for a foul.
- which player did that throw in/corner come off? The ball will be out of play.

There is already the technology to tell whether a ball has crossed the goal line or dead ball line.

All these examples would not allow any significant addition of time. They create natural breaks where a fourth official watching a delayed feed can communicate with the referee.



 

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Devestated that we didn't get the 3 points.

We just need another striker or two who can help us to take the chances we are creating. THEN we wouldn't need to worry about the FA's fairly obvious and transparent witch-hunt against LFC at the moment.

My theory is that we don't get a decision in our favour "on balance" for the rest of the calendar year 2012 ... because of our handling of the Suarez case and for calling out the FA with the T-Shirts etc. At least I'm HOPING that our punishment ends at the end of this year and that next year we get back to FAIR treatment.

Its getting so bad I can barely even be bothered to watch EPL games any more, I know for a fact that in these big games that everything is being done to keep MUFC at or near the top and also that we are not going to get ANY decisions.

I don't buy that the linesman bottled it, or made a mistake. I think it just took him a moment to realise that Luis had scored, that it was his hat trick and 3 points for LFC. He remembered his standing instructions and raised his flag.

Don't expect this to change. The FA are dominated by MUFC right now and we are getting hammered by them week in and week out. Its rotten and I'm sick of it. I just wish we could get out of the premiership and into a UEFA managed league instead.