Fair do's mate but I still don't agree.Jaffod and Elessar...Id say most people agree with your overall sentiment towards City, just maybe not the cheating/conspiracy stuff.
City (PSG too) are are a horrible club, whose success has been built on the back of an organisation with a horrible human rights record. Id also argue they've built some of the their success in ways that aren't really in the spirit of the game. i.e endless oil money which has taken them from lower table mediocrity to one of the best sides in the world overnight, and a global club network that allows them to move money around. Unfortunately, the spirit of the game counts for fuck all. Whilst all this is not pleasant to your average football supporter, it is generally in compliance with the recently created Financial Fair Play (FFP), bar some minor breaches. For the most part, it is extremely clever circumvention. These kinks in the FFP model may be ironed out over the next few years, or maybe not...
With regards to the earlier Man United cheating discussion, I just cant see any reason or rational into that train of thought. For me, they were just brilliant on the field and psychological masters off it. Too bad the city sucks and their fans are knobends.
This is the last ill post on this issue. No hard feelings Jaffod and Elessar, we are all Redmen at the end of the day. YNWA.
I'm nowhere near as old as you :J, so don't have personal memory, but were referees not intimidated in front of the Kop during our dominance?Fair do's mate but I still don't agree.
In City's case, having their owners pump millions into their coffers under the guise of sponsorship amounts to more than a minor breach of FFP.
As for United under Ferguson I don't think it's stretching it to suggest they regularly gained 10+ points a season due to referees shitting themselves at OT and elsewhere. It really was laughable what they got away with. Who knows how many times that made the diffference?
I'm not sure that it was the crowd at OT that worried refs. More the idea of a purple faced, steam coming out of his ears, Alex Ferguson (with threats of "you'll never referee here again") that persuaded them to favour Uniturd.I'm nowhere near as old as you :J, so don't have personal memory, but were referees not intimidated in front of the Kop during our dominance?