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Post Match: Everton 0-0 Liverpool (EPL 3/3/19 4.15pm)

Man of the match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 9 6.6%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Matip

    Votes: 4 2.9%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 113 82.5%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fabinho

    Votes: 5 3.6%
  • Henderson

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • Wijnaldum [off 63’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Salah

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mane [off 84’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Origi [off 63’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Milner [on 63’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Firmino [on 63’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lallana [on 84’]

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Total voters
    137
  • Poll closed .

macca1970

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Well, this game was almost a carbon copy of the Man U game. Our game plan was to mostly bypass the midfield and play direct to the wings. And just like last week’s game, we didn’t change the setup during the game.

Salah had some good chances but fluffed the best one. His approach play and running is not at fault, but just composure, which also Mane was guilty of (remember that counter and a stupid giveaway pass).

Of course decisions can be scrutinised in hindsight much easier, but our subs didn’t change the game plan at all. Gini had an off day, but his replacement should’ve been Shaq or Lallana to make those passes and runs. Fabinho made some careless passes and was lucky they never resulted in a goal, but in the last 15 mins he was running on fumes and had a yellow. And yet Mane was the one to give way when we clearly could have pushed for the result, as Everton left gaps everywhere in the last 10 minutes. A positive proactive sub could’ve made the difference.

Was surprised Kieta did not get on. The ref was protecting the short statured Gueye all game, so Keita would’ve been afforded the same leniency. An extra runner into the box would’ve made a big difference. With Ox injured, Coutinho gone, we do need that extra flair in midfield.

So Man City take top spot with same games played, but in the next games we need to play positively. Talk of dropping Salah is just crazy, as he creates plenty of panic in the opposition. We need to string together a run of wins. 2019 has seen a loss to Man City and too many draws. 2008-9 season ended just short due to the many draws. Hopefully history doesn’t repeat here. Keep going.
 


ubermick

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I just don’t get the Lallana sub.
What’s he done to warrant getting in ahead of Keita or Shaq?

At least we have no more hard away games left
Or Milner. Midlfield was lacking creativity so bringing on Milner and pairing him with Henderson was going to end up in one way. Towards the end midfield was being bypassed completely. It seemed like it was just crying out for Shaq or even a bit of nasty like Keita.

Shame Div is lacking match fitness. If any of the front three deserved to be brought off for Bobby, it wasn't him.
 

Incognito

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The only problem now is it was in our hands all this time. It isn't anymore and that's a fact. Now we can hope city drop points, and someone grows some balls to go at them. They managed couple of 1-0 wins, and that we couldn't in the last two games. Momentum is very important in this final run in and that's lacking for us currently.

On the game itself, we didn't create 'enough' to win, as some are stating. Yes Mo should have scored two, but that's that! Creating enough and not winning are games like Spurs had against United. This wasn't like that. We were way off, Gini did nothing in first half and Milly and Bobby were way out of touch since they came on. Lallana was substitution left way too late and there must be a very very solid reason not to bring on Keita who was finding his feet in this sort of game.

Not only are we dependent on city to drop points, we'll have to be near perfect from here on. And improve our consistency without dropping our shoulders. The title definitely isn't gone yet, but it's become very very difficult.
 

Quagmire81

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We were terrible all game :unhappy:

solid enough in defense to not lose but midfield was so out of touch with the level required. Attack was nowhere near the level required. Mane was wrapped up in carpet all game and Salah continues his poor form. His finishing is lost somewhere in dubai or where the hell we've been training. So so dissapointing!

I really thought midweeks game was us finding our best form again but instead we just put the title in the hands of fucking City and Pep fucking Guadiola. A fucking travesty is what it is.
 

santana

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everton is fast strong team
liverpool was not bad
mancity will drop points
i think 433 against fast team is not needed and selection was risky but draw better than lost !
 



Red Ted

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Blueshite are dancing in the streets, celebrating a 0-0 draw in their Cup Final. Fuckin losers! The DVD is out in their club shop.
Many of their fans really are desperately sad bastards, that's one thing to always think when it goes south for us, at least you/we are not an Everton fan, what a truly miserable existence that is.
 

sms1986

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We should be winning with the clear 7 points advantage we had. Challenging means nothing if you don't win it. I am not talking about luck, but lack of composure and ability to take those chances would come back and haunt us. Not once in my post spoke of luck. From having our fate of winning the title in our hands to hoping for others to drop points is not my thing. It may be yours, but it's not mine.
We should but we lost it and now we have an harder task, but it's not impossible.

I would rather be consistently challenging every season for the title than only doing so every five or so seasons. We have improved massively under Klopp and will continue to do so.
 



lfc.eddie

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We should but we lost it and now we have an harder task, but it's not impossible.

I would rather be consistently challenging every season for the title than only doing so every five or so seasons. We have improved massively under Klopp and will continue to do so.
You do you..... it's all good. And I do what I do....
 

indianscouser

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Buffer doesn't count for me because as long as mathematically we can lose it, it all counts. We messed up against West Ham, we led and we concede. We could not break that team down when teams like Burnley,Southampton and Crystal Palace could break their defence down. That shows we're not handling the pressure well being up top. Dubai and Marbella trip seemed to have wasted on these players.


We should be winning the title having clear 7 points advantage we had at one point. Challenging means nothing if you don't win it. I am not talking about luck, but lack of composure and ability to take those chances would come back and haunt us. Not once in my post spoke of luck. From having our fate of winning the title in our hands to hoping for others to drop points is not my thing. It may be yours, but it's not mine.
Agree with you to some extent.
I think this game was winnable. The utd one was weird but yes we should have won that.
Anyway, I am off now. I need to breath and relax. Mind is too clouded and obviously pissed.
Hopefully, we recover and keep pushing.
 

RaoulDuke

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City's next three PL games

  • Palace
  • Spurs
  • Man u
Let's not panic just yet.
Palace...meh
Spurs...forget them. After they‘ve finally abandoned their delusion of being in the title race they might roll over.

My money is on Man United!
For that game I‘ll be a big fan of Lukacke, Pogba, Rashy, Marty, Little Jesse etc!
They can win the derby.
 

WooltonRed

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I can understand why Klopp is leaving Keita out at the moment, he’s been disappointing all season. But why is he ignoring Shaqiri? He might just have won the game for us in the last 15 mins.
 

wibseyred

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I think that this match and the one against manure, we felt the lack of a genuine playmaker like Coutinho.
I feel it's time to give Keita more playing time, bar Watford midfield has been atrocious lately.
Keita not getting on today you can forget that. It's looking crystal clear Klopp has no faith in him to perform.
 



RodM

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Bollocks!

Except for VVD who was epic and a clear MotM for me.

I'm determined not to get obsessed with City's results as all we can do is win our own games.

I'm off to get some beer to cheer myself up. Did I say bollocks?
 

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Virgil is the skipper in all but name. Sorry for Hendo but I did believe that he was worth continuing with until the end of the season. Until today. It's going to have to be Virgil who pulls our lads together and gives us a chance to lift that trophy.
 



jabu

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For a manager who is supposed to have huge balls every single big away game he seems to revert to a midfield of workmen like players and it never works. It was crying out for Keita or Shaqiri and bringing on Milner was a terrible decision, compoundedby then going for Lallana. Baffling decisions for me.
Sad to say but our klopp blinked today!
 

lfc.eddie

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Agree with you to some extent.
I think this game was winnable. The utd one was weird but yes we should have won that.
Anyway, I am off now. I need to breath and relax. Mind is too clouded and obviously pissed.
Hopefully, we recover and keep pushing.
Every game other than that dreadful pitch against Leicester was a winnable one. Problem is the entire season when we've been top, we relied heavily on defence and not the fluid attack we had. Even against Watford, we weren't breaking them to pieces until Origi slit his in. We made a mess out of it, and we will have to live with it.
 

RJK

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Sans Fernandinho and KDB...

This shit ain't over...not by a long shot...
It is if we keep playing like we have against average opposition. The manager & players bottled it today plain & simple.
 

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Liverpool defender Virgil Van Dijk tells Sky Sports: "Yes of course (we are disappointed). We deserved the three points and it says a lot that they are celebrating. We had chances to win the game and did not finish them off. We go again.
"I like these kind of games and we came here for three points and did not get them. It is time to recover and be ready for the next game.
"We focus on our next game, everyone wants to be top of the league and we cannot change the situation at the moment."

Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson, speaking to Sky Sports: "Obviously we are disappointed because we wanted to come here and get three points.

"But we knew it would be tough and frantic. I felt we created enough chances to win. We defended well but of course we are disappointed because want to win every game. We just need to be a bit more clinical."

More from Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson, speaking to Sky Sports: "I felt we created a number of chances. We defend really well as a team.

"Manchester United away and Everton away are tough games, you are not going to win 3-0, 4-0 or 5-0 every week.

"We have to take the positives and keep going. We are still in the race.

"We want to win away at Manchester United and Everton, but we've got a point at both games. There is a lot of football to be played, a long way to go. I have got a lot of belief in this team."

 



sportbilly1966

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Caused us problems from what I saw. He lost his discipline there imo.
Agree, once in the 2nd half, but you have taken that alone and out of context of my post, as it was used as an example to bring on Keita, someone who can run with the ball in midfield to break the lines to commit there defenders - which is what Matip did on a xouple of occasions
 

wibseyred

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I've always been critical of Klopps substitutions and today was as bad all 3 were like for like. The plan wasn't working try something different it might just have worked but seeing as we did exactly same we don't know.
 

FilthyBloke

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We have tried taking our players to warmer climates after a game, but if anything it has made some of them think they are still on holiday.
I suggest they head down to butlins now until their next game. Proper team bonding. Proper weather. Tell them that Dubai and Spain is reserved for those who deserve it.
 

YNWA-HM

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Look at this team choking.
Wouldn't be surprised if we're 7 points behind by April