Post Match: Liverpool 1-0 Flamengo (WE ARE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS)

Man of the Match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 15 12.1%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 38 30.6%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 6 4.8%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Henderson

    Votes: 76 61.3%
  • Keita [on 99’]

    Votes: 7 5.6%
  • Oxlade-Chamberlain [off 75’]

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Salah [off 120+1’]

    Votes: 2 1.6%
  • Firmino [GOAL 98’, off 105’]

    Votes: 54 43.5%
  • Mane

    Votes: 19 15.3%
  • Lallana [on 75’]

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Milner [on 99’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Origi [on 105’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shaqiri [on 120+1’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    124
  • Poll closed .

Jimmyscase

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Part of me can't get over what someone like Elliott must be thinking right now. 16 years old, joining the Champions of Europe from a Championship club, in his first six months at the club has already received two winners' medals before Christmas. Does he think this is normal? Does he realise how special this is and how lucky he is to be coming to Liverpool at this precise moment in time? Will he appreciate it, or take it for granted?

I also think that sometimes I overthink things :ROFLMAO:
16 year olds take things for granted no matter what. I don't want him appreciating anything happening around him at this point. We want his arrogance of youth to push him on. Looking in from outside having to prove himself equal or better than some in this squad is only going to be possible if he right now has an overinflated ego. As ridiculous as it might seem to neutrals, in his mind he has to believe he deserves a berth in the first XI.
Tell him that if he puts let's say 20 hours' training in his work against the ball and 40 hours on placing shots into the corners, he can rival Shaq, and he only does half of that and not double, then arrogance of youth has turned into something that will hold his progress back for months and years.
 
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Just asking your opinion. My footie mate missed the match but watched it today. He is thinking the referee was very partial to Flamengo and was 'got to', his expression, as if FIFA wanted Flamengo wanted to win the tournament.

Do you think so?
 

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Just asking your opinion. My footie mate missed the match but watched it today. He is thinking the referee was very partial to Flamengo and was 'got to', his expression, as if FIFA wanted Flamengo wanted to win the tournament.

Do you think so?

With the fact the ref was middle eastern,playing in the middle east,with the worlds greatest middle eastern player on our team,i just got the slight feeling he was trying to hard to be impartial by not giving us some decisions and letting Flamengo get away with some,so it wouldn't look like he was giving Salah and his team an advantage and making it look like he was being biased towards us.Either that or he's just a shit ref or i'm being sightly paranoid or both.
 

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Just asking your opinion. My footie mate missed the match but watched it today. He is thinking the referee was very partial to Flamengo and was 'got to', his expression, as if FIFA wanted Flamengo wanted to win the tournament.

Do you think so?
Totally agree he was useless even at trying to advantage them heaven help England at the 2022 WC!
 

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Just asking your opinion. My footie mate missed the match but watched it today. He is thinking the referee was very partial to Flamengo and was 'got to', his expression, as if FIFA wanted Flamengo wanted to win the tournament.

Do you think so?

I think that FIFA would not have been upset by that outcome. In a convoluted way they feel it would enhance their reputation as stewards of the game to show that the Europeans can be beaten. That's my two cents anyways
 

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Just asking your opinion. My footie mate missed the match but watched it today. He is thinking the referee was very partial to Flamengo and was 'got to', his expression, as if FIFA wanted Flamengo wanted to win the tournament.

Do you think so?
No Maria it was just a Ref who wasn't good enough for the level. The French commentators were laughing every time he blew his whistle as it was always the player that cried out first that won the decission. The biggest laugh came when the ball clearly went out from TAA however TAA claimed it first so won the throw in. It was comical and if they wish this tournament to be taken seriously they need to sort this shit out.
As for FIFA favoring for example South America it's difficult to say without greater knowledge of the history of this competition. Personally I doubt very much they favor South America in this as it's already popular there. What they probably want is for it to grow in Asia, middle east and North America now and really to do that they need Europe to start taking it more seriously. My hunch would be they would have been delighted that LFC won it particularly concidering the players we have.
 

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Just asking your opinion. My footie mate missed the match but watched it today. He is thinking the referee was very partial to Flamengo and was 'got to', his expression, as if FIFA wanted Flamengo wanted to win the tournament.

Do you think so?
Not really - he was calling every possible contact as a foul, which was an advantage because that is much more like the Brazilian style, but mostly he was just inept. You could see the Flamengo players were getting fairly frustrated with him as well.
 

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With the fact the ref was middle eastern,playing in the middle east,with the worlds greatest middle eastern player on our team,i just got the slight feeling he was trying to hard to be impartial by not giving us some decisions and letting Flamengo get away with some,so it wouldn't look like he was giving Salah and his team an advantage and making it look like he was being biased towards us.Either that or he's just a shit ref or i'm being sightly paranoid or both.
small correction . Salah isn't Middle eastern but African
 

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Clear conspiracy against us, shocking ref!
Makes the victory even more sweet.
European champions, super cup champions and now WORLD champions.
There are no words that can describe the job Klopp has done.. from where we were to now is just a miracle. The Team yes TEAM plays for each other, no egos, no dressing room drama it’s just tranquil with the mentality of soldiers in war. Putting themselves on the line for each other. Put football aside this is an inspiration to all industries and walks of life,where a team play for each other. Our players are different religions, colour and language however they all are a credit to LFC. The business we do off the field, the players conduct themselves in such a good way, our fans support through thick and thin. Looking at today’s game with spurs and Chelsea - disgraceful fans who don’t understand life, never mind football who are racist to a player. Please let’s keep classy and keep anfield magical.
there is no room for racism , however there is room in the trophy cabinet that we all want.
Leicester next , 3 points that’s all that matters
Enjoy the moment my fellow kopites
Have a very happy and merry Xmas.. I know I will YNWA
 

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FIFA seem to have little difficulty finding suitable referees for the World Cup finals that South Americans and Europeans can all agree on. Obviously the choice of ref was a sop to the host nation, but it made a mockery of the final. You wouldn't want him reffing a Sunday morning park game let alone the World Club Cup final.
I have no idea why, but for the World Cup, it doesn't seem to be a consideration. In 2014, an Italian refereed Argentina-Germany in the final, although there were Ecuadoran assistants. In 2002, the previous UEFA-CONMEBOL matchup it was an all-UEFA crew led by Collina. No one cared. It really is a bit baffling why it is such a contentious issue at the club level. It might also be FIFA wanting to push forward refs from other federations, as much as UEFA and CONMEBOL making the stink about it in the Intercontinental days.

One of the worst things about that match is that the referee now has that final in his rating, and is that much more likely to be in the World Cup pool in 2022.
 

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Just asking your opinion. My footie mate missed the match but watched it today. He is thinking the referee was very partial to Flamengo and was 'got to', his expression, as if FIFA wanted Flamengo wanted to win the tournament.

Do you think so?
If he was there to ensure that Flamengo won he was even more incompetent than I thought. He awarded us a penalty in added time.

He was just terrible. Absolute joke.
 

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small correction . Salah isn't Middle eastern but African
If you want to split hairs mate,he's both tbh,yes he's Egyptian which is an African country but it's also transcontinental,it has landmass in the SW of the Middle East aswell,it is also an Arabic speaking country considered as part of the Middle East group.
 

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Just got back home from 8 days in Switzerland, wasn't able to see the games but was keeping up via the forum, so I'd like to thank you all & a big thumbs up for all the posters & the panic maker's here. (y):LOL: Special thanks go to Livvy for the Vids & one for Maria for totally losing it & Swearing like a trooper. :ROFLMAO:
To all the poster's keep up with the GOOD work.
 
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Most definitions of the Middle East include Egypt, some go further than that into the Maghreb, the two are not really exclusive.
it's not against you but it is either intellectual laziness or ignorance
North Africans may share the same religion, use a dialect that contains Arabic and not only (there are Berber, French, Turkish, Spanish), but that doesn't make them Oriental

If you want to split hairs mate,he's both tbh,yes he's Egyptian which is an African country but it's also transcontinental,it has landmass in the SW of the Middle East aswell,it is also an Arabic speaking country considered as part of the Middle East group.
I do not disagree, yes it is a crossroads between the Middle East and Africa, but just like Ethiopia or sudan, it remains geographically and historically an African country
and for the language, there are regions that still speak the Amazigh language (like the region of Siwa for example)
 

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@CymruRed @Seen it all

:LOL: you guys are too funny.
I think I will leave the expert Category A swearing to the seasoned posters on the TIA. They are cooler when they use the flowery language:geek:. Its the frustration which gets me whenever I see our players getting injured by other players.
 

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it's not against you but it is either intellectual laziness or ignorance
North Africans may share the same religion, use a dialect that contains Arabic and not only (there are Berber, French, Turkish, Spanish), but that doesn't make them Oriental



I do not disagree, yes it is a crossroads between the Middle East and Africa, but just like Ethiopia or sudan, it remains geographically and historically an African country
and for the language, there are regions that still speak the Amazigh language (like the region of Siwa for example)

Still,he's the poster boy for the Egyptian & Middle Eastern masses and kinda classed as one of their own,which was my point.
 

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it's not against you but it is either intellectual laziness or ignorance
North Africans may share the same religion, use a dialect that contains Arabic and not only (there are Berber, French, Turkish, Spanish), but that doesn't make them Oriental



I do not disagree, yes it is a crossroads between the Middle East and Africa, but just like Ethiopia or sudan, it remains geographically and historically an African country
and for the language, there are regions that still speak the Amazigh language (like the region of Siwa for example)
I don't disagree - including Algeria for example in the Middle East is not particularly useful. But Egypt I definitely think of as part of the Middle East as well as Africa.