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POST MATCH: Liverpool 1-0 Napoli (UCL 11/12/18 8pm)

Man of the match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 84 45.7%
  • Alexander-Arnold [off 90’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Matip

    Votes: 5 2.7%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 30 16.3%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 19 10.3%
  • Henderson

    Votes: 4 2.2%
  • Milner [off 85’]

    Votes: 4 2.2%
  • Wijnaldum

    Votes: 23 12.5%
  • Salah [GOAL 34’]

    Votes: 12 6.5%
  • Firmino [off 78’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mane

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Keita [on 78’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fabinho [on 85’]

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Lovren [on 90’]

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Total voters
    184
  • Poll closed .

Alright Now

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I wonder how good our defence would be with Koulibaly alongside VVD? Just throwing it out there.
I have no idea if Koulibaly would fit our system. And I’m guessing Joe has more upside. But I shared your thought last night. Koulibaly was excellent and I found myself grudgingly admiring his performance. I even graciously admitted that to the fake Napoli fan next to me (albeit only after Mo scored).
 

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We need to talk about that Lovren's cameo :shocked:
 

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The lads never make it easy for us do they? 1-0 was enough, but we could have had four or five and made the final minutes less stressful for us all. And thank God for Ally in our goal - what a fantastic save near the end. He kept us in the game and progression into the last sixteen.

One moan I have is - I'VE NO SODDING NAILS LEFT. !!!!!
I didn’t see the Allison save because I spent the last 5 minutes of the game upstairs with my headphones on so I couldn’t hear the commentary. Told my wife to let me know when it was full time. Then I had a nice malt whiskey to calm down.
 

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I have no idea if Koulibaly would fit our system. And I’m guessing Joe has more upside. But I shared your thought last night. Koulibaly was excellent and I found myself grudgingly admiring his performance. I even graciously admitted that to the fake Napoli fan next to me (albeit only after Mo scored).
That’s the question I guess, would Koulibaly fit our system? Only Klopp and his coaches can answer that one.
 

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I didn’t see the Allison save because I spent the last 5 minutes of the game upstairs with my headphones on so I couldn’t hear the commentary. Told my wife to let me know when it was full time. Then I had a nice malt whiskey to calm down.
Interesting. How many people here couldn’t bear to watch? I watched with one eye open (Bobby style viewing).
 

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The lads never make it easy for us do they? 1-0 was enough, but we could have had four or five and made the final minutes less stressful for us all. And thank God for Ally in our goal - what a fantastic save near the end. He kept us in the game and progression into the last sixteen.

One moan I have is - I'VE NO SODDING NAILS LEFT. !!!!!
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I wonder how good our defence would be with Koulibaly alongside VVD? Just throwing it out there.
He looked like a beast yesterday. From where we were sitting, we were commenting how big and commanding he was.

Not as classy as VVD, but a bit more rugged and beastly. I think Klopp looks for quick feet and calmness on the ball - in all of his players.

Did Man U have a £90 m bid rejected for him?
 

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He looked like a beast yesterday. From where we were sitting, we were commenting how big and commanding he was.

Not as classy as VVD, but a bit more rugged and beastly. I think Klopp looks for quick feet and calmness on the ball - in all of his players.

Did Man U have a £90 m bid rejected for him?
Rumours they are going to bid 100m in January for Jose to ruin him.
 

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We need to talk about that Lovren's cameo :shocked:
It wasn't very good indeed. Then again, it's tough to come in for an injured player, to play at the unaccustomed right back position, to deal with that kind of intensity and scutiny for the last few minutes, when the whole team is tired, nervous and a bit under the cosh, and you are also coming back from an injury.

This isn't an excuse for Lovren btw, but it might be an explanation.

He still had to show more positional awareness on that cross, but this has never been his greatest strength anyway.
 

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In regards to Alisson, I'm not sure how much we earn by progressing to the knock outs. But we can just take that off his transfer fee. Even more of a bargain.
According to Wiki:

As of 2018–19, the fixed amount of prize money paid to the clubs is as follows:[69]

  • Preliminary qualifying round: €230,000
  • First qualifying round: €280,000
  • Second qualifying round: €380,000
  • Third qualifying round: €480,000 (Only for clubs eliminated from the champions path, since clubs eliminated from the league path qualify directly for the UEFA Europa League group stage and therefore benefit from its distribution system.)
  • Base fee for group stage: €15,250,000
  • Group match victory: €2,700,000
  • Group match draw: €900,000
  • Round of 16: €9,500,000
  • Quarter-finals: €10,500,000
  • Semi-finals: €12,000,000
  • Losing finalist: €15,000,000
  • Winning the Final: €19,000,000

This means that at best, a club can earn €82,450,000 of prize money under this structure, not counting shares of the qualifying rounds, play-off round or the market pool.

We still have to substract the costs in logistics to play the matches , but I think it's save to say that last year's final bought us a top centerback and by the looks of it , we are maybe even better prepared to amortize the fee for our new shiny goaly this time around...
 
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I have watched Redmen TV for years. Can't say how good it is to watch a video from the Kop without the pig squeels of Mr Machin.

If you don't already subscribe to redmen give it a go.

Have Chris and Paul fallen out of love with each other?
According to their matchday vlog, Chris is down with a heavy flu and had to pass on his ticket, the poor sod ... :((

And btw , TAW have been in hotlap mode as well since at least the derby:


And what really made me spill my coffee with laughter was Ben's match rating on Andy Robertson:

Andy Robbo: 8
Imagine him chasing you through the woods. You flicked him the Vs and he clocked you, lashed the handbrake on, opened the door and was on you like a wolf. Reckon, with a minute headstart, you would last four minutes before he caught you. Gutted, you’re literally left you spluttering on your own blood, before he lashes mud on your head, and empties your pockets, walks back to his car muttering something about cheeky English cunts, and then lashes on ABBA’s greatest hits.
 
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Refereeing was so bad,what is going on with that? Standards dropping i think,expected better in the CL. That foul call on Mane where the goalie falls down trying to catch the ball without any contact with Mane was an absolute joke. Can't refs spot diving, simulation at all?
Sadio needs to get clinical, he really does. He'll get there, hopefully against Man U.
But........ the whole team played so well and that includes Hendo whose second half was really good, imposed himself on the game. (Did i really say that?) Matip's performance and form since coming back was very reassuring and how good were some of his forward passes? More of that please.
Napoli are a very good team managed by the excellent Ancelloti but despite that we should have put this game away well before the end. Really we had their measure,(not that it felt like it at the time).
It wasn't that long ago we would have been out of the next round. Not now though, we have Allison who paid back millions by taking us to the next round. I'm outing myself, i have a man crush on that beautiful man. I mean really, who is better than him right now.
Finally, I'm not worried about who we might play in the next round, but i want us to play RM. You know Ramos and all that. Whatever, the other teams will fear drawing us, as they should. Can't wait for February.
No smile again from Mo when he scored. He means business . He is on a mission.Onwards and upwards fellas, i've got a good feeling about this.
 

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Jurgen Klopp... What a fucking team has he put together. How many years have passed since we saw a side that could play like this? And it's only going to get better. I'm just so happy that we have him. Players will come and go but as long as he's around, we'll be fine.

Last night was a masterpiece of controlled aggression. We pressed and harried them and didn't let them settle for one minute, while at the same time we were in total control restricting them (mostly) to a few sporadic half-chances. They had no answers for what we brought and they can count their lucky stars they didn't leave Anfield with a 5-0 drubbing. As can we for having Alisson Becker, but really anything else but a Liverpool victory would have been a travesty.

The freaking injuries won't stop though. And they always seem to affect players in the same position. TAA who was absolutely magnificent has a foot injury, Matip who was again impressive hurt his shoulder, Gomez is already out, Lovren is half-fit at best. I don't know who is going to play against the jammy mancs. Oh well, perhaps Mane will make up for his misses and tear them a new one and make that miserable old hag at their bench throw another tantrum.

Real Madrid will do
want to see the tears running down Ramos face

Yes, but in the final. Not now.
 

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Still buzzing...took me ages to get to sleep last night. Any news on TAA? Hope he is ok for the weekend. Looked to be in some discomfort when he came off.......

VVD my man of the match. I can rarely see past him. My hero....

When I was a kid I always pretended I was Ron Yeats so must have a thing for big centre backs.

Just read this https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-dealt-injury-blow-centre-15539445
Lovren, Fabinho, or Phillips to partner big Virg?
 

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It’s not a conspiracy theory was just literally very poor, you don’t point the wrong way on 4 occasions on a decision, it’s like committing a foul throw at that level if your a player. It was poor I’m honestly not sure why he is at that level as I’ve said the old codgers who ref our games at Amatuer level are better.
That is extreme hyperbole. The guy that refs your amateur league is certainly light years from the ref we had yesterday. Yes, he made a couple of mistakes, but none of them were that big.
I have seen a lot, lot worse, both in the Champions Leauge and the Premier League. As for the Norwegian league, lol, they are a lot worse. As for my original post, it was badly worded. I did not imply that it was a conspiracy theory to say that the ref was bad, I mean that it is a conspiracy theory to claim he was out to make Liverpool lose on purpose. I suggest you watch the game again, without emotions, I think you will find that the ref was mostly okay, if you consider that you get fouls a bit easier in continental football. Then again, we all have different opinions. But yes, I do suggest that fans are usually very unfair towards refs, forgetting that they are humans too, and also forgetting that the speed of play is very high when Liverpool and similar teams play. Sadio Mane missed a lot more than this ref yesterday, and Sadio actually played quite well.
 
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That is extreme hyperbole. The guy that refs your amateur league is certainly light years from the ref we had yesterday. Yes, he made a couple of mistakes, but none of them were that big.
I have seen a lot, lot worse, both in the Champions Leauge and the Premier League. As for the Norwegian league, lol, they are a lot worse. As for my original post, it was badly worded. I did not imply that it was a conspiracy theory to say that the ref was bad, I mean that it is a conspiracy theory to claim he was out to make Liverpool lose on purpose. I suggest you watch the game again, without emotions, I think you will find that the ref was mostly okay, if you consider that you get fouls a bit easier in continental football. Then again, we all have different opinions. But yes, I do suggest that fans are usually very unfair towards refs, forgetting that they are humans too. Sadio Mane missed a lot more than this ref yesterday, and Sadio actually played quite well.
I do tend to agree. I thought the officials did ok..........

Given recent comments on here re. the physicality of EPL football, I think some would prefer this style of officiating where most physical contact/challenges are blown up............ I wouldn't.

Keepers in Europe are given even more protection than they are in our league.

I think many would have been screaming for a red if VVD's tackle and follow through had been Fellaini on Salah.
 

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That is extreme hyperbole. The guy that refs your amateur league is certainly light years from the ref we had yesterday. Yes, he made a couple of mistakes, but none of them were that big.
His performance illustrates one of the issues the refs have. They are always going to get things wrong, but sometimes it is about how and why you get something wrong and the perception of your competency that creates. There were two noteworthy examples of that - the yellow for VvD and the stamp by Koulibaly on Mo on the edge of their box. Ultimately he got both right, and seemingly did so by leaning on his lino to help him makes those decisions. That is exactly what you want from your refs. Yet, at least in me, it also created the perception that he didnt know what he was doing because they were both challenges he didnt see anything wrong with initially. So, my issues then become, 1) how did you not see it when they were that clear and you were looking right at it, and 2) it is unnerving how quickly and completely he can change his mind based on a word in his ear. None of that inspires confidence in his decision making ability.
 

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I'm more interested in your cameo.
In a new job and bored as fuck and TIA just came back into my head this morning. Didn't think id be able to access my account but gladly I can. Also need tickets for the Palace game :-)
 



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His performance illustrates one of the issues the refs have. They are always going to get things wrong, but sometimes it is about how and why you get something wrong and the perception of your competency that creates. There were two noteworthy examples of that - the yellow for VvD and the stamp by Koulibaly on Mo on the edge of their box. Ultimately he got both right, and seemingly did so by leaning on his lino to help him makes those decisions. That is exactly what you want from your refs. Yet, at least in me, it also created the perception that he didnt know what he was doing because they were both challenges he didnt see anything wrong with initially. So, my issues then become, 1) how did you not see it when they were that clear and you were looking right at it, and 2) it is unnerving how quickly and completely he can change his mind based on a word in his ear. None of that inspires confidence in his decision making ability.
It's all about getting the decision correct. Having officiated in a different field sport to a decent standard I would say it is about angles. You can be the only person who didn't clearly see what happened. That's precisely why there are 4 other officials. To advise the referee so he can get as many decisions correct as possible.
 

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His performance illustrates one of the issues the refs have. They are always going to get things wrong, but sometimes it is about how and why you get something wrong and the perception of your competency that creates. There were two noteworthy examples of that - the yellow for VvD and the stamp by Koulibaly on Mo on the edge of their box. Ultimately he got both right, and seemingly did so by leaning on his lino to help him makes those decisions. That is exactly what you want from your refs. Yet, at least in me, it also created the perception that he didnt know what he was doing because they were both challenges he didnt see anything wrong with initially. So, my issues then become, 1) how did you not see it when they were that clear and you were looking right at it, and 2) it is unnerving how quickly and completely he can change his mind based on a word in his ear. None of that inspires confidence in his decision making ability.
I would have to watch the game again to comment objectively to that. I did not feel the same you did at the time, but you may be right that he used his lino a lot (I don't really mind that tbh), and sure, it may give the impression that he has not 100% control, but yes, I do tend to not be so hard on refs as long as the mistakes are not many and big. I know that it is hard for them with the high speed that we play.
 

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There’s the usual gap in how the matches are officiated between the Prem and the CL. And then last night seemed something else again, at least to me, as I thought the ref blew his whistle for loads of Liverpool fouls when there was no such thing. Part of our game is to nick in there and get the ball back, but every time we did that, cleanly too, I wasn’t sure if the ref would give them a free kick. It was getting ridiculous
 
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