Really good aimer.
- Sep 17, 2012
If we’re going to go out, now’s the time. Losing to a top 6 premier league team in the early rounds of the league cup happened in 2013-14 as well...
Good point. But a lack of mistakes is a building block. Get the clean sheet, take something from that and go forward. What I'm trying to say is "that applies to Clyne". Trent is already far ahead of that.You bring up an interesting point here though; for too long we've seen defending as 'doing nothing wrong'. If that's all you ask, Clyne is good.
Defending is about more than that though. Van Dijk isn't good at defending because he does nothing wrong, he's good because he'll go and actively look to dominate the player he's up against. He'll turn them into a bag of shite. Clyne can't do this, and neither can Moreno. Robertson and Trent are so
aggressive that they can. Gomez does it when playing at right back too.
A lack of mistakes does not a good performance make.
I’m finding it hard to dislike Hazard. He is just so good to watch and seems a decent spud. I’ve always found it easy to hate our rivals best players past and present- Ronaldo, Rooney, Drogba, Pogba etc.
Give me some ammunition...
It got me thinking about just how good Robbo and Trent really are and how much they mean to this side, going forward and defensively. When they are not in it is noticeable. And with specific regard to Trent, it REALLY highlights what a special talent he is to be that good at 19.It's only after reading through a few of the posts in this thread that it's just occurred to me how much my opinion on defending has changed recently. In my earlier post I croitcised Nate Clyne for his lack of attacking threat, but it wasn't long ago that my thoughts were "as a defender, defend first, defend second and anything else is a bonus). Looking back on it Nate did nothing wrong tonight. I've just been spoiled by having Trent and Robbo in the team. I take back the things I said about Alberto too. After all he was up against Hazard for a spell late on. I'll reserve my judgement until I see how Trent and Robbo fare against him.
Barkley was offside. Furthermore, two other blue players were offside clearly and involved by checking space there. It was fu**in stupid decision.What is the point of VAR? It clearly showed Barkley was offside but that idiotic cheat Friend chose to ignore it . The sad thing about the result is that there will not be as many chances for fringe players to get a game now.
We havent won anything for 11 years we cant say we have bigger fish to fry as we cant even win (whats deemed) the shittest cup - which i would take in a heartbeat. We exist to win trophies and have gone out first hurdle.where to start?
1) not dissapointed because we legitimately have bigger fish to fry this season
I was stupid enough to think once VAR was in corrupt cunts like Friend, Mason, Moss etc wouldn't be able to shaft us. I was wrong. They just don't care.Klopp fuming over the first goal. The linesman didn't give any freekick but a throw in to them. The referee was the one giving the freekick who was further away from the incident. Fucking wanker the ref. He was also not happy with the decision of not calling for offside on their first goal too, which we all knew it was off.
I actually don't think he is any worse than most players. Hendo hacked him down a couple of times.I know, it's plainly sour grapes, but I think Hazard should join Tottenham Hotspur Diving and Aquatic club. He would even improve the Spurs divers, and that would be saying something. Hazard's a top player and he's proved it by conning referee after referee with his diving skills. He needs only to feel hot breath on his neck to send him tumbling. I say again that he's a great player, but I dislike the little diving fucker.
The League Cup is inevitably not a priority for the top clubs. All the top sides field their weaker teams. We won it in 2012, and look what happened afterwards? We lost 5 out of our next 6 games, finished 8th, sacked our manager who's a legend at this club, then signed Rodgers and did very little of note the next season.We havent won anything for 11 years we cant say we have bigger fish to fry as we cant even win (whats deemed) the shittest cup - which i would take in a heartbeat. We exist to win trophies and have gone out first hurdle.
The Premier League with City about is gonna be so hard to win - 1 or 2 loses and we will behind and playing catch up. The CL is a lottery and anything can happen.
Leaves the FA Cup which again Id snap your hand off for.
We havent won anything for so long we cant be picky.
I know Klopp has to keep everyone happy but playing that back 5 was suicide. I thought Ming looked OK considering he hasnt played this year. Unlucky with the first the 2nd was a thunderbolt but Moreno was his usual awful self. Matip (whom im not a fan of) looks awful next to Lovren who was himself as rusty as hell.
Clynne was solid defensively but didnt cross halfway line and offered nothing going forward. He is so far behind TAA its unreal.
That back 5 are used to leaking goals and as soon as the free kick - that wasnt a free kick - was given you knew they would concede. Its what that 5 do.
Keita started bright but faded so to Fabinho which is understandable. Henderson came on and lost his head.
Milner had stinker - due one I guess - but I was surprised to see him play.
Did Salah touch the ball? Bobby couldnt get involved when he came on.
Sturridge, Mane and Shaq were our best players.
Im seeing people saying its only Carrabao Cup - but we havent won it since 2011 - so we cant be picky.
I really wanted to win it. Same with FA Cup.
Dont get me wrong if we win League and go out of these cups early id be over the moon but thats a hell of a gamble.
LFC - 1 Trophy in 11 years is simply not good enough,
Klopp has just given Shaq a bollocking for something. Don’t know what that’s about. I thought he was the best player on the pitch.
This was just a typical "unhappy Klopp discussion face" and I guess the players are already used to it. He said it already, he can't change his face in these kind of situations, this is how he is and this is nothing to worry about. It's only "a thing" because he hasn't been like that (in public) for a long time now but I'm sure that our players have seen that face beforeI didn’t like klopp and Shaqiri at the end