POST MATCH: Liverpool 7 (yes, seven) - 0 Spartak Moscow (UCL 6/12/17 19.45pm)

Man of the Match

  • Karius

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lovren [off XX']

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Klavan

    Votes: 6 4.0%
  • Moreno [off 44']

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Can

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Wijnaldum

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Coutinho [GOAL 4', GOAL 15', GOAL 49']

    Votes: 113 74.8%
  • Salah [GOAL 86']

    Votes: 4 2.6%
  • Mane [GOAL 46', GOAL 76']

    Votes: 5 3.3%
  • Firmino [GOAL 18', off XX']

    Votes: 15 9.9%
  • Milner [on 44']

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Alexander-Arnold [on XX']

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Alexander-Arnold [on XX']

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sturridge [on XX']

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    151
  • Poll closed .

Noo Noo

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Well any pre game nerves were quickly dispelled. Our attacking play is a joy to behold. It's not classic Klopp but some kind of step on from it, a step that suits our front 4 perfectly. If you look at the goals the midfield isn't really involved. It's more case of letting the likes of Mane and Salah just do their thing. The full backs do chip in though.

Just to be super critical though does anyone agree that despite the ease of the result and relative comfort I couldn't actually say that we were in complete control of the game. More a case of ripping them apart every time we got the ball off them. It wasn't a case of dominating the ball and building pressure.
 

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I guess he posted before we scored again.

Anyhow I didn't comment about the match as I hadn't watched it, enjoyable to see the text alerts rack up while on my date.

I felt as I am at Anfield on Sunday that I could give someone else almost all my attention on a wednesday.
Ah smart idea, give her the impression that she is more important than football. The last thing you need is a pissed off missus feeling 2nd best to football
 

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Well any pre game nerves were quickly dispelled. Our attacking play is a joy to behold. It's not classic Klopp but some kind of step on from it, a step that suits our front 4 perfectly. If you look at the goals the midfield isn't really involved. It's more case of letting the likes of Mane and Salah just do their thing. The full backs do chip in though.

Just to be super critical though does anyone agree that despite the ease of the result and relative comfort I couldn't actually say that we were in complete control of the game. More a case of ripping them apart every time we got the ball off them. It wasn't a case of dominating the ball and building pressure.
We were in total control mate and we had about 2 gears to go up if needed.
 

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First off it's important to note the new formations that Klopp's been employing have restored some solidity at the back while simultaneously retaining fluiditity upfront. In other words, the team seems balanced again which is immense since unfortunately we won't always be as clinical as lately.

Secondly when it comes to pure football...Dear God it doesn't get better than that, does it? Coutinho's second, Mane's volley, Firmino's first vs Brighton; the quality of our goals in general... it's football porn, they're obscene really.

Lastly, some minor complaints: Moreno's injury, Can's stupid yellow which rules him out of the next game and Anfield's atmosphere? It sounded very quiet in my stream, only hearing the away section for most of the match. Hopefully it wasn't as subdued as that.
 

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We were in total control mate and we had about 2 gears to go up if needed.
Not in the traditional sense where you basically have all the ball and camp in the opposition half building pressure. The opposition basically crumble.

Agree that we could have stepped up if we wanted to and I dont think we were at risk at any point in the game
 
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Some tough teams in the next stage who finished 2nd in their group - Bayern, Chelsea, Juve, Real Madrid. We'll have fun either way. I still reckon we'll get to the 1/4 finals.

Fourth spot this season in the EPL and its a great season. Onwards and upwards.

But shame, no chance of us winning the Europa League now. We'd have been in with a real chance there;-)

Oh, forgot - that second goal - who is every going to forget it?
 
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Was that the best 2nd half we have played since .................?
I think Klopp must have got his half time talk spot on this time. We just strangled them made them have to work so hard just to see snippets of our goal. Not only that we were generally sensible in possession calculating when to counter when to guard ........... woo! was it good to watch.
Also got see see Gomez at CB he's better there isn't he?
Milner is an LB he prooved it tonight, the way he hugs the line is so much more beneficial than Moreno's inside runs (Moreno should try that more. N.B Moreno wasn't bad Milner was just better).
Wijnaldum showed great improvement almost looked good. Not sure Can had his best match but he was sufficient.
Got to mention Klavan, was he reactive or what. He really put in a shift and a great performance defensively and looked reasonable on the ball to go with it (If the attackers hadn't been so good and prolific I would have given him my MOTM).
What can you say about our front men just fantastic touches 90% of the time, great control and really slick. Coutinho had one of his inspirational games and wins MOTM hands down (start him as captain more often to see if it's that!

I might get a little more picky later on but it's impossible to fault that collective performance, I mean 7-0 against a side with some good technical ability and a plan of how to use it (they might not have the collective needed but they are not dopes).

Oh! by the way I have read every post before mine and found nothing to disagree with. ZEN!
 

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Not in the traditional sense where you basically have all the ball and camp in the opposition half building pressure. The opposition basically crumble.

Agree that we could have stepped up if we wanted to and I dont think we were at risk at any point in the game
But you rarely ever dominant a game 100% but if needed we could have upped our game. We were never in danger and basically scored at will and there was a few times when he took the wrong option or a player showboated instead of passing where we should have scored more . we didn't need to dominant possession and actually suited us for them to have the ball and let them come at us so that when we won possession back we had space to attack them with our quick counters so that'd be why I think we totally dictated/controlled how the game went
 

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After that performance Klopp needs to be brave and ruthless and start the same 11 again in the derby. Henderson will have to win his place back. Can and Wilnaljdum should retain those midfield positions.
I would not say no to that idea.... Would have Milner as our leftback as well.
 

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Hendo has been the same even since Kenny was manager.
Great performances, and blah performances. It's the mark of an average player I think.
The superstars (like Suarez) rarely seem to have a bad night.
I still don't think that Coutinho, Mane, Firmino or Salah are at that level (of Suarez) but the fact that there are 4 of them means that most likely one of them will be firing on all cylinders on a given night.
 

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Hendo has been the same even since Kenny was manager.
Great performances, and blah performances. It's the mark of an average player I think.
The superstars (like Suarez) rarely seem to have a bad night.
I still don't think that Coutinho, Mane, Firmino or Salah are at that level (of Suarez) but the fact that there are 4 of them means that most likely one of them will be firing on all cylinders on a given night.
They compliment each other. There is balance basically.

Henderson at the base of midfield is a but of a square peg / round hole scenario which upsets the midfield balance.
 

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They compliment each other. There is balance basically.

Henderson at the base of midfield is a but of a square peg / round hole scenario which upsets the midfield balance.
I disagree, Hendo is still our best player in that position, he just can't play there 2 games per week, for weeks on the trot, it's way too much running.
We need to have 2 players who we interchange in that position so that neither plays more than 3 games in a 14 day period, Can plays well there too, so we're sorted there.

Hopefully Hendo will be back this Sunday.
 

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I disagree, Hendo is still our best player in that position, he just can't play there 2 games per week, for weeks on the trot, it's way too much running.
We need to have 2 players who we interchange in that position so that neither plays more than 3 games in a 14 day period, Can plays well there too, so we're sorted there.

Hopefully Hendo will be back this Sunday.
Because he's our best option there doesn't actually mean he's suited to the role or even that good at it. That would highlight a hole the squad. One which is there to a certain degree. Plus having him play there, and not being able to play 2 games a week suggests his health is being managed. That again suggests some degree of compromise.

For me when Can is at his best he's better that Henderson in that role. He has more positional discipline and awareness than Henderson. I personally put a large proportion of our defensive frailties at the feet of our midfield of which Henderson is a part of that issue.
 

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Just read this posted on an Everton forum...

.Just had a woman in work (who I don't know, having never met) approach me and chirpily enquire: "Are we looking forwards to the derby this weekend?"

My instant reaction was to be nasty and defensive: "What is this some kinda dig or something?"

She looked shocked and swiftly dissapeared.

It's this "Slave/master" approach that they adopt that really pisses me off. If we ever break the norm and actually compete they go apeshit and have their friends on TV anbd in the media talk us down.

See what this fixture has done to me psychologically? I hate it... I hate them... and I hate Everton's cowardly approach to this fixture. I won't be satisfied until we kick the living sh1te of of them and have the media hating us rather than loving them.... that would make me happy.
Fuck me lol
 

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Don't expect him to know how to count.... I am already amazed he could count past 20.
If it wasn’t for the ref we would have scored 26 I think the xmas spirit was misplaced as far as Spartak were concerned they are vile racists even their Brasilian players confirmed they get abuse almost every match
 

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Im pretty confident that Spartak are twice as good as Everton.

14-0 Sunday then yeah?

Easy
 

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Saw the replay. I don't have much to add that has not already been discussed. The fluid way the boys intrinsically passed the ball to each other was almost telepathic. The back four were pretty solid. I thought Spartak Moscow were no pushovers, they tried their best, they could have got a couple of goals but due to lack of clinical finish, they couldn't.
With regards to the fantastic four, they were absolutely mesmerising. I have never seen anything like this before with four forwards in synchronicity with each other and I loved the way they linked up with each other. I must say Danny Sturridge was brilliant in assisting in goals and was unlucky to not score and also Milner was a great substitute for Moreno. Poor Moreno worked his socks whilst he was on the pitch. He was so anguished when he came off the pitch, i felt so sad for him, bless him. I hope Alberto got alot of consoling hugs after the match. I hope his injury is not serious.

MOTM: The fantastic four Coutinho, Firmino, Mane and Salah.
 
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I fast-forwarded through the match last night to rewatch the highlights (7 goals takes some time!). One of the really striking things about the match was how much of the play involved Spartak midfielders running full tilt toward their own goal. Virtually every offensive turnover they had was punished with a 50 meter wind sprint. If it was a drill they would have been complaining bitterly.
 



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Yep, I rewatched the full match earlier. I have to say that for an ECL game Can was a very lucky boy with that yellow card. I can only assume that he would have gone had it happened later in the match.

The other thing that struck me was ...... yet again ...... Firmino! His workrate is simply phenomenal as are his skill levels. I would say that he is probably our best player right now which says a hell of a lot when you consider Salah, Mane and Coutinho. His modest goal scoring stats mask his true contribution when you consider how instrumental he is in the build-up to a lot of our goals.
 

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That was just magnificent (7) last night everyone was brilliant, Milner with 3 assists coutinho hatrick Lovren and klavan dominant at the back Karius with 5 saves from 5 shots ( must be a record in last 5 seasons) and Moreno getting a standing ovation leaving the field in tears. What a night for us topping the group and scoring a record number of goals for a English club getting there. Wow wow wow!!
 

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Yep, I rewatched the full match earlier. I have to say that for an ECL game Can was a very lucky boy with that yellow card. I can only assume that he would have gone had it happened later in the match.

The other thing that struck me was ...... yet again ...... Firmino! His workrate is simply phenomenal as are his skill levels. I would say that he is probably our best player right now which says a hell of a lot when you consider Salah, Mane and Coutinho. His modest goal scoring stats mask his true contribution when you consider how instrumental he is in the build-up to a lot of our goals.
I actually agree completely with your second paragraph. I asked my wife last night if Bob is our best player and then realized that maybe Klopp's system has made that a moot question. And Mane's comments seem to validate that as well.
 

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Yep, I rewatched the full match earlier. I have to say that for an ECL game Can was a very lucky boy with that yellow card. I can only assume that he would have gone had it happened later in the match.

The other thing that struck me was ...... yet again ...... Firmino! His workrate is simply phenomenal as are his skill levels. I would say that he is probably our best player right now which says a hell of a lot when you consider Salah, Mane and Coutinho. His modest goal scoring stats mask his true contribution when you consider how instrumental he is in the build-up to a lot of our goals.
I'm sorry I'm replying to this again, but I couldn't edit my last one. It struck me that we may not know if Bobby is our best player, but he may be the player most difficult to replicate.