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Post Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (ELC 30/11/19)

Man of the match

  • Kelleher

    Votes: 11 9.4%
  • Williams

    Votes: 24 20.5%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 5 4.3%
  • Van den Berg

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Milner [GOAL 42’]

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • Lallana

    Votes: 13 11.1%
  • Keita [off 54’]

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Oxlade-Chamberlain [GOAL 57’, off 80’]

    Votes: 19 16.2%
  • Elliot

    Votes: 16 13.7%
  • Origi [GOAL 62’, GOAL 90+4’]

    Votes: 76 65.0%
  • Brewster

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • Jones [on 54’]

    Votes: 31 26.5%
  • Chirivella [on 80’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .

Sweeting

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We had 6 shots on target and scored 5 goals. Not a bad hit rate. Their keeper was absolutely hopeless.


This is unlikely given the fuss JK has made about rearranging the date but agree this is the most sensible thing to do. We are just delaying the inevitable in this competition by deferring the date. Are we really going to play a team much stronger than the one you've listed here regardless of when it's played? The congestion in January (when we traditionally have a dip in form anyway) is going to be horrendous and even then if we got through against Villa there's a 2 legged semi final to play which will probably be against City or United. I want to see us win things but you have to be realistic about it. We just don't have the squad to cover every competition, not this season anyway.
I've actually just realised that we can't even do that. Our U23s have three games that week themselves!
 


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This week's picture competition is in three parts.

Part 1: What's the technical term for Martinelli , Torreira & Maitland-Niles positions when Saka kicks the ball?

Part 2: And what's the special term for what Torreira becomes, when he kicks the ball?

Part 3: What should happen next?

A special Braille version of this competition is available for Andrea Marriner and Dan Cook.
 

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What a game for Williams didn't look out of place at all
Was expecting a bit more from Elliott and Brewster but that's just me being greedy
 



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I thought every single player did well. Let's face it, this 'team' had never played togather as a team before - it takes time to get into a team, and they all did very, very well considering they were mainly kids playing against some decent PL players for Arsenal. Stop deriding them, they had an amazing night (no VAR to bugger it all up), at Anfield with a massive crowd. It was the best entertainment showing true grit and determination - but lacking in cohesion just a bit. They won, and won it well, I am so very proud of them all, every single one of them.
 

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An added bonus for me was shutting up those moronic Arse fans. More than one poster on here has said how good the crowd were last night. At the game it sounded good to me as well. But the Arse fans were singing "is this a library?" and "shall we sing a song for you?" each time we paused to catch our breath. I hope they enjoyed their four hour trip back to the cesspit that is London the cockernee twats.
 

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Happy for the kids. After looking at this match,we have some good news and some not so good news. The right back position is looking very bright indeed with TAA, Williams and Hoever. As for the other full-back, I wonder if Larouci is really going to be given a fair crack of the whip. As for the centre-backs, Gomez is rusty and Sepp needs a higher level of challenge.

As for the DM position, We need a decent back-up that has some awareness about danger. Our midfielders bar for Fabinho are not very positionally astute as Fabinho. This also includes Hendo as well who is now playing further forward as a CM and is part of the "big-game midfield three". AOC again produced a wonderous long-shot goal. Curtis Jones looks good and I hope he gets subbed on matches as AOC's alternative when we are winning. Keita is worrying me as it seems his body cannot deal with the rigours of the BPL.

As for the forwards today, it is encouraging to see Brewster and Elliot have their moments to contribute. A special mention goes out to Origi though. It seems that he plays better as a classic centre-forward facing the goal than a inside forward like Mane or Salah. It is a pity though that our front 3 is good on a bad day and world-class on their day.
 

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Fuck I've watched from the 90th minute multiple times now. Anybody questioning the power of the crowd need only watch them approach the Ceballos penalty kick. Wow. I won't say they were too noisy through the 90mins but from the final Origi goal on, they were pretty awesome.

Somehow Klopp makes me love him even more each game. I absolutely loved his reaction to the Lallana penalty. It was a combination of relief and pure joy. Lallana is a player that is continually under fire in the media and in the wider community, and he doesn't want him to be the talking point with another penalty miss. The beautiful thing is that he's likely not special mates with Adam or anything. It could be any player under fire and he would do the same and feel the need to protect him. And wish better things for him.

Erect a statue of this man already.
 



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An added bonus for me was shutting up those moronic Arse fans. More than one poster on here has said how good the crowd were last night. At the game it sounded good to me as well. But the Arse fans were singing "is this a library?" and "shall we sing a song for you?" each time we paused to catch our breath. I hope they enjoyed their four hour trip back to the cesspit that is London the cockernee twats.
Part timers! Did you see the Emirates for the Forest match? Fucking empty.

City, United, Arse, and Spurs all have a few thousand part time fuckers who pack it in if their sides are down with 10 to play. Or simply dont show up if the game is not to their interest.
 

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Contrary to most I think that Brewster had a good game.
Was thinking similar. He made several effort plays that won't show on the stat sheet but created chances for his mates. Div scoring the 5th goal NEVER happens if Brewster doesn't do his thing with 3 Arsenal defenders on him in the box and getting it out to Neco. He had plenty to do with the ball and in traffic before finding the right man. I don't think he was getting proper service most of the match but made Arsenal's backline work plenty around their box.
 

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We had 6 shots on target and scored 5 goals. Not a bad hit rate. Their keeper was absolutely hopeless.


This is unlikely given the fuss JK has made about rearranging the date but agree this is the most sensible thing to do. We are just delaying the inevitable in this competition by deferring the date. Are we really going to play a team much stronger than the one you've listed here regardless of when it's played? The congestion in January (when we traditionally have a dip in form anyway) is going to be horrendous and even then if we got through against Villa there's a 2 legged semi final to play which will probably be against City or United. I want to see us win things but you have to be realistic about it. We just don't have the squad to cover every competition, not this season anyway.
This bold part jumped out to me. I wasn't aware of this! Is it true that the League Cup has a two-legged semi final?
 



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About Neco Williams. There were people who I normally agree with on the TAW post-pint thing saying he had a difficult game and they would have hooked him to forestall further damage to his chances of ever playing for the first team again. I agree with the poster above though. Probably needs a second look.
 

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About Neco Williams. There were people who I normally agree with on the TAW post-pint thing saying he had a difficult game and they would have hooked him to forestall further damage to his chances of ever playing for the first team again. I agree with the poster above though. Probably needs a second look.
To me he looked out of his depth (which to be fair isn't surprising) however he just didn't give up. Kept looking for more showing immense determination. He finished up playing the vital assist for Origi. You can not buy that determination and pure stubbornness. Concidering his age he's going to improve. His pure doggedness made me think of Carragher someone who doesn't have the technical skills but who you just can not leave out of the team. He certainly was involved a lot and I think that's a good sign for a young player, fearless.
 



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About Neco Williams. There were people who I normally agree with on the TAW post-pint thing saying he had a difficult game and they would have hooked him to forestall further damage to his chances of ever playing for the first team again. I agree with the poster above though. Probably needs a second look.
I find TAW to be very knee jerky, their coverage of youth football is terrible also its just a bunch of cliches and second hand info.

And the idea of subbing young players out of tough games in order to help their development is a weird one that I see often. They have to show they can respond to tough games and come back stronger. They'll never make it otherwise.
 

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To me he looked out of his depth (which to be fair isn't surprising) however he just didn't give up. Kept looking for more showing immense determination. He finished up playing the vital assist for Origi. You can not buy that determination and pure stubbornness. Concidering his age he's going to improve. His pure doggedness made me think of Carragher someone who doesn't have the technical skills but who you just can not leave out of the team. He certainly was involved a lot and I think that's a good sign for a young player, fearless.
I thought he looked like a young kid making his debut. Was the player in defence that the other team targeted as the weak link, but he stood up to be counted and didn't shy away or try to hide from scrutiny. Going forward he wanted to get on the ball and prove that he can be counted on to contribute to the team when played.

Definitely one to watch over the next few years to see how he developes in my view.
 

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Tell me the young lad Kelleher wasnt feeling pretty pleased with himself after stopping their 4th pen. What dreams are made of. Just sat through the highlights again. Epic!
 

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I find TAW to be very knee jerky, their coverage of youth football is terrible also its just a bunch of cliches and second hand info.

And the idea of subbing young players out of tough games in order to help their development is a weird one that I see often. They have to show they can respond to tough games and come back stronger. They'll never make it otherwise.
I was a little surprised to read on here how posters thought he had a good match. Williams had a better second half than he did first, is my opinion. He let off a good ball to OX for our first, and worked hard getting our equalizer. The young lad he was marking, Waki or Saki, gave him a tough time, I thought. I thibnk some of our regulars had worse moments than Williams, all the same.
 



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I find TAW to be very knee jerky, their coverage of youth football is terrible also its just a bunch of cliches and second hand info.

And the idea of subbing young players out of tough games in order to help their development is a weird one that I see often. They have to show they can respond to tough games and come back stronger. They'll never make it otherwise.
Pulling a player out can crystallize failure. It would have been a disaster for Williams last night. He was under considerable pressure most of the match, kept working, improved his performance in the second half, kept playing both sides of the ball, and ended up getting the key cross into Origi. That could be a huge developmental step for him.
 

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About Neco Williams. There were people who I normally agree with on the TAW post-pint thing saying he had a difficult game and they would have hooked him to forestall further damage to his chances of ever playing for the first team again. I agree with the poster above though. Probably needs a second look.
I think it's about perspective. It was a performance with a fair number of errors (notably on their third goal) and he struggled a fair bit against a good player who has recently broken into the Arsenal first team and done well at the PL level. Based on the performance there are probably still 4 CMs we would play at RB instead of him at a league game right now, not to mention the likes of Gomez and Hoever. However, we knew before the game kicked off that he was not really close to first team football. What he showed was tremendous commitment and spirit and would have likely pleased Klopp with the performance given the numerous positive elements of it. He certainly was in no danger of developing PTSD as a result of the troubles he was having. In contrast, he looked like he loved the challenge of it.
 
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This week's picture competition is in three parts.

Part 1: What's the technical term for Martinelli , Torreira & Maitland-Niles positions when Saka kicks the ball?

Part 2: And what's the special term for what Torreira becomes, when he kicks the ball?

Part 3: What should happen next?

A special Braille version of this competition is available for Andrea Marriner and Dan Cook.
Why are you blaming Marriner? He is blameless on this occasion. Referees can’t blow for offside without the flag going up. The man to blame is the linesman.
 

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What the F is the Carabao Cup, and why should I care? I thought I knew my competitions fairly well, but WTF is this? Isn't this another FA Cup? Sorry if I sound a little thick, but I really found this tournament to be something I had never heard before.

As far as scheduling goes, all I really want terribly is the Prem League title. Champions' League would be great as well, but I want them first in England.
 

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What the F is the Carabao Cup, and why should I care? I thought I knew my competitions fairly well, but WTF is this? Isn't this another FA Cup? Sorry if I sound a little thick, but I really found this tournament to be something I had never heard before.

As far as scheduling goes, all I really want terribly is the Prem League title. Champions' League would be great as well, but I want them first in England.
It’s a competition that Liverpool have won more times than any other club...