Post Match: Liverpool v Bayern Munich (UCL 19/2/19 8pm)

Man of the match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Matip

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fabinho

    Votes: 51 36.7%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Henderson

    Votes: 64 46.0%
  • Wijnaldum

    Votes: 8 5.8%
  • Keita [off 76’]

    Votes: 4 2.9%
  • Salah

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Firmino [off 76’]

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Mane

    Votes: 5 3.6%
  • Milner [on 76’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Origi [on 76’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    139
  • Poll closed .

MarlboroMan

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Considering the circumstances I guess keeping a clean sheet is okay. A bit dissapointed with Salah today, this is a game he should step up in but didn't make any mark at all. We look a complete different team without VVD, with him back we can cause an upset in munich I'm sure.

I too was a bit disappointed with Salah but he really had no space to run into. They defended him well always with a 2nd defender usually Martinez to block and take any passing/dribbling lanes. He had 2 chances really all match the first from Hendo's long ball forward that found Mo in behind the Bayern defense but it was just a yard to far. The 2nd chance from Trent's lofted ball from the left wing that Mo had to take first time but headed wide. I was a little surprised that we didn't switch to 4-2-3-1 in the 2nd half and play Mo as the #9 and let him run in behind more, he might have had more luck in that position at least it might have troubled Bayern more. Maybe Klopp was saving that for the 2nd leg?

A few shaky performances from Alisson and the fullbacks, things that we never saw happening but hopefully they'll be better in the return leg. Thought the CBs did well in limiting Lewandowski to nothing really and had the fullbacks dealt with Coman and Gnabry better then it would have been 1 way traffic, something for Klopp and co. to work on for next time.

0-0 is not a bad result by any means though of course the performance in the final third could be much improved. Just afraid of our away performances and results in the CL this season but if we put that out of our minds then we should be alright as a 0-1 would do or even a 1-1. All in all all to play for in the return leg so bring on the scum this weekend and let's tear them to shreds!
 

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Glad we got the clean sheet. However, this reminded me of how Man City approached games against us this season. Cautious at A field, then clinical at their own ground. I fear Bayern could pull off a similar trick, as they do have the individual quality to do so. As such, I am not as confident as many on here.
 

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I must admit, I was a wee nervous watching our game, because Bayern are no walkover. They have a very decent bunch of players and are always playing in the CL.
Our lads do deserve some credit for keeping a clean sheet with a makeshift defense pairing.
a score draw will do in the return leg, thank you
we can do it, just make our lads believe it through words of encouragement rather than finding fault.
 

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Once again we reach the CL knockout rounds and people still don't seem to understand the scoring system.

0-0 is firmly in the "OK" category for a home team. In the second leg we can now draw or win and progress.

Considering the amount of players we didn't have available for the game I think we did quite well. Bayern's only real chances came through a bit of sloppiness from ourselves playing out from the back.

At the other end we cut their defence to ribbons in the first half but didn't make it count - for the away leg you have to consider a higher defensive line very vulnerable to our trio.

Gameplan for the Allianz sorted, our defence should be back to full strength, sit in and absorb them then hit them with counter attacks. It is exactly what Bayern have struggled with this season.
 

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Had we played blindfolded, we would have taken some of the chances presented better. Atrocious passing/decision-making in the final third and a general lack of fluidity and rhythm throughout the game meant that Bayern had it easier than they probably expected. All things considered, we defended far better than we attacked. Quite telling considering the absentees at the back.

The tie is still wide open, but we have to show up for the second leg which considering our away form in the CL cannot be taken for granted. In this sense, the game against the mancs takes an ever greater significance. If we manage to put in an accomplished performance at the Toilet, it will give us a massive boost not only for the rest of the domestic season but for the Munich leg as well. If we fail to turn up there as we usually do though, things are going to get much harder.
 

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I thought the game was very underwhelming. It just demonstrated our lack of fire power up front.
Bobby’s not on tune and Mo hasn’t been himself for a few games. He does, occasionally need to look up in the box and look for a pass.
However, it’s ok. VVD will be back, our defence should be a little more robust, I can see Jimmy in from the start and we will be forced to play more counter football. Plus the pressure is on them to win, while we on need a goal or a score draw.
So, although not great, not the end of the world and we all know it’s about the PL anyway!
 

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They were better than I expect, defensively at least and got their tactics just about right, we could of got at least one but still all to play for.
 

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Slept on the game now and I'm still a little disappointed as I thought we were the better team and only our disjointedness prevented a win.

That final ball thing has been an issue all season to be fair and we saw it again last night. Are we trying to be too clever or are our tactics just ever so slightly off?

Tempted to give Fabinho my MoM vote. Henderson would have walked it if his first half performance was repeated in the second but the game became disjointed and his influence waned.

Should be an interesting return leg.
 

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Fabinho is becoming Milly Mark2 with his ability to cover different positions. A good cameo from Milly last night BTW. A poster mentioned earlier his surprise at no votes for Matip. I'd agree with this. Joel was unfortunate last night in that other players had better games than him. Taking nothing away from his performance. I thought he looked more assured last night than he has on other occasions. The fact that he was the senior CB seemed to give him more authority IMO. Perhaps he needs to be more assertive when partnering Virg or Dejan. It's a shame that there's no way of voting for a top three in the MOTM poll, as Joel would have been in my top three along with Hendo and Fab for last night's match.
 

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Love how the media are saying advantage Bayern? How? It’s 0-0. If we score one they need 2.
if you can’t win at home then 0-0 is the best result.
If we had gone to Bayern first and got a 0-0 wouldn't you say we were then favourites to go through? I definitely think it is advantage Bayern and especially given our dismal recent record away from home in this competition.
 

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If we had gone to Bayern first and got a 0-0 wouldn't you say we were then favourites to go through? I definitely think it is advantage Bayern and especially given our dismal recent record away from home in this competition.
Nope cos I’m always weary of the away goal. I’m amazed they didn’t try and get one
 

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Still all to play for and while they have home advantage, they also have to score more than we do. We score first and they have a mountain to climb.
We score first and the least I want to see is that we play it smartly and make efficient use of ball possession and time wasting. Bayern had been time wasting a lot last night. Faking injury and faking cramps... this is their years and years of experience and given their record it has been working for years. Even Kovac was stating that time wasting was an actual instruction that he gave the players to prevent us scoring and to disrupt our momentum... It's not something I have seen us do but in knockout matches we really should play it smart.
 

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Personally I thought that was a good battle between two good teams, the fact that we matched a regular semi finalist and the dominant force in German football was encouraging.

I found the media reaction bizarre, salivating over their defensive masterclass which was effectively the sort of bus parking lesser sides do.

I'm pleased to see Keita making rapid progress and we have good options to field a three man midfield from Fabinho, Hendo, Gini, Milner and Keita.

Robertson had a challenging night, but he wasn't walked over like the media portrayed. He just had to defend more. TAA was a bit mixed, but finding his feet after injury. Fabinho is a monster of a player, better than the specialist alongside him which is saying something.

We have to address the central defence in the summer, it is not acceptable that the department in which you need the most stability has so much regular change due to so many injury prone players. If necessary I'd swap Lovren and Matip for a quality reliable centre back and use a youngster as 4th choice and Fabinho as emergency cover.

The forwards were wasteful when they got chances. They need to be clinical more of the time, when it matters in tight top class matches. I wouldn't say they've been found out this season, and they have suffered from the lack of creativity behind them, but they have to do more in matches like last night. Personally I think the argument for adding quality to that department is clear. You've got to keep evolving, keep the opposition guessing, and Origi, Sturridge, Lallana and even Shaqiri don't offer enough of an alternative against the very best.

For me we have to sort the centre backs (and back up full backs) and upgrade the quality of the forward squad this summer.

Anyway keeping a clean sheet was good, it means we have to lose in Munich to go out. We have to score, but if we do we just have to not concede two.

It's the ideal test for this squad. If we can't go there and score we don't deserve to go through anyway.
 
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We score first and the least I want to see is that we play it smartly and make efficient use of ball possession and time wasting. Bayern had been time wasting a lot last night. Faking injury and faking cramps... this is their years and years of experience and given their record it has been working for years. Even Kovac was stating that time wasting was an actual instruction that he gave the players to prevent us scoring and to disrupt our momentum... It's not something I have seen us do but in knockout matches we really should play it smart.

We so often seem tofreeze in the final third. Seem to hesitant and want to play clever litle flicks when we have allowed the opposition topack at the back. We do not seem to be making use of the width the way we did last season. Not a bad performance though and we are not out of it yet.
 

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I felt at the time that sacrificing the FA Cup was the right move and maybe these Long breaks in between games and warm weather training will benefit us for the run in but right now I feel these breaks are actually hindering us as we lack rhythm when we come back and are usually very sloppy in the couple of games after the breaks.

Right now I am of the feeling that the best teams challenge on all fronts and relish playing games week in and week out and build momentum with every win. I hope I'm proven wrong and we are full of energy for the run in while City may flag due to playing too many games.
 

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I felt at the time that sacrificing the FA Cup was the right move and maybe these Long breaks in between games and warm weather training will benefit us for the run in but right now I feel these breaks are actually hindering us as we lack rhythm when we come back and are usually very sloppy in the couple of games after the breaks.

Right now I am of the feeling that the best teams challenge on all fronts and relish playing games week in and week out and build momentum with every win. I hope I'm proven wrong and we are full of energy for the run in while City may flag due to playing too many games.
I kind of agree, but its typically only the one straight after (ignoring the virus ravaging half our squad v's West Ham).

We will put Utd to the sword, because despite us not scoring last night we hounded them into mistakes all over the shop and chances. Utd's defence is not a patch on Bayerns.

By the time we go to Munich I expect those inches missed on final passes to be back inline and we go through.
 

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Fabinho is becoming Milly Mark2 with his ability to cover different positions. A good cameo from Milly last night BTW. A poster mentioned earlier his surprise at no votes for Matip. I'd agree with this. Joel was unfortunate last night in that other players had better games than him. Taking nothing away from his performance. I thought he looked more assured last night than he has on other occasions. The fact that he was the senior CB seemed to give him more authority IMO. Perhaps he needs to be more assertive when partnering Virg or Dejan. It's a shame that there's no way of voting for a top three in the MOTM poll, as Joel would have been in my top three along with Hendo and Fab for last night's match.
Matip would be a fantastic defender if he could head the ball effectively! The amount of times it hits his shoulder on offensive corners is unreal.
 

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I too was a bit disappointed with Salah but he really had no space to run into. They defended him well always with a 2nd defender usually Martinez to block and take any passing/dribbling lanes. He had 2 chances really all match the first from Hendo's long ball forward that found Mo in behind the Bayern defense but it was just a yard to far. The 2nd chance from Trent's lofted ball from the left wing that Mo had to take first time but headed wide. I was a little surprised that we didn't switch to 4-2-3-1 in the 2nd half and play Mo as the #9 and let him run in behind more, he might have had more luck in that position at least it might have troubled Bayern more. Maybe Klopp was saving that for the 2nd leg?
Mo did OK in the circumstances. When he plays wide I think it is easier for good teams to stifle him. That's what happened last night. Two men on him all the time. Just no room at all. JK continues to persist with the 4-3-3 for the big games but the better teams seem to have worked us out with that approach which is why I agree that putting Mo centrally and giving him more options on which way to go was an option last night that may have worked out, particularly with Bobby struggling second half.

Some of our approach play in the first half was brilliant but overall it was a decent team performance let down by appalling finishing first half and poor final ball second half. Many have underestimated Bayern. Form less relevant in this competition than experience of making it regularly to the latter stages. It's why Real can stink the La Liga out but still win the CL nearly every year. Requires a specific set of skills and experience which teams like Bayern have in spades. We are still learning at this level.
 

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On phone so won't post a long one, but does anyone remember Matip's left footed pass that he smashed straight out of play? Creased me that.
Trent appeared to have his boots on the wrong feet also! Bar that fucking monster lazer of a volley to Salah he was a bit wayward.
 



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Glad we got the clean sheet. However, this reminded me of how Man City approached games against us this season. Cautious at A field, then clinical at their own ground. I fear Bayern could pull off a similar trick, as they do have the individual quality to do so. As such, I am not as confident as many on here.
Bayern were all over the place at times, their defence couldn't cope, so much so that their two CB's were arguing walking off at half time. You put VVD back in the mix and possibly even have OX back and its a different story. Have faith sir,
 

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Glad we got the clean sheet. However, this reminded me of how Man City approached games against us this season. Cautious at A field, then clinical at their own ground. I fear Bayern could pull off a similar trick, as they do have the individual quality to do so. As such, I am not as confident as many on here.
In City's case I'd replace 'clinical' with 'lucky'.