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Post Match: Liverpool v Crystal Palace (EPL 19/1/19 3pm)

Man of the Match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Milner [red 89’]

    Votes: 14 8.1%
  • Matip

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 24 14.0%
  • Henderson

    Votes: 25 14.5%
  • Fabinho [off 87’]

    Votes: 8 4.7%
  • Keita [off 70’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Salah [GOAL 46’, 74’, off 90+4’]

    Votes: 84 48.8%
  • Mane [GOAL 90+3’]

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • Firmino [GOAL 52’]

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • Shaqiri [on 70’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lallana [on 87’]

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • Total voters
    172


Dane

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Does anyone know the running of match of the day....also lineker is going to look at the penalty shout of Salah against Sahko...I've just seen the incident, but didn't see anyone make a claim....Garth Crooks is also checking Salah's pen claims now....
Salah was lucky not to get a yellow for that.
Definite contact, but delayed reaction and blatant theatrics.
 

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On a side note, out next opponents have:

Mendy (DM) suspended, 5 yellows.
Pereira (RB) suspended, 5 yellows.
Maguire (CB) injured.

Assuming the yellow card count is immediate suspension for next game.
So you are on it already! Good to know that ;-)
 



tesh

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I think it's fair to say that zaha is very very good.
He can really pin down opposition wing backs. Has tons of skill.
This would be the ideal time if at all we are interested.
Easily worth 50M£, but who knows, we can make the deal tasty by throwing in origi or sturridge?
No!

He lacks discipline.
He is lazy.
He is not a team player.
He was at Manure.

Pretty much the antithesis of what we are, what we want where we want to go.

Just my opinion FWIW.
 

auzziez

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No!

He lacks discipline.
He is lazy.
He is not a team player.
He was at Manure.

Pretty much the antithesis of what we are, what we want where we want to go.

Just my opinion FWIW.
Zaha is anything far from lazy. Opposition hate to play him which says how much a threat he is.
Not a team player? How can you be when the rest of the team is defending in their own half? He is tasked with the job of providing an outlet when counter attacking a superior opposition. And he does it really well.
I admit I hate it when he goes down fairly often, in fact it is really frustrating to see him do the job he was assigned to do. Take on the opposition full backs and get the most out of it. He did it very well yesterday, having got Milner off.
I am still not convinced that Zaha is the best option to enforce our attacking options. But he is definitely one of the best in the list of feasible ones.
 

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Great game... We obviously suffer from the loss of Lovren, TAA, Gomez and Wini. We werent as good in defence today, and yet the team kept gonig and got the victory !! thats impressive. You have to give credit to Palace for being able to exploit our defence, I dont think many non top six teams will challenge us as hard as that on the counter.

This season reminds me of when Leicester won the league. Every one waiting for them to fall, but they ticked every box and eventually won the league. We are having a fantastic season and even though Im an optimist they have surprised me Go back 5 or 10 years and we would be clear favourites to win the league, but Man City and their millions mean we have to get more points that the last ten times we actually won the league !

Thank god Moreno wasnt playing !
 

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I wasn't sure what to make of that performance. It was like going back in time when even at 4-2 up and in the 3rd minute of added time you couldn't trust us to hold on. We were so vulnerable in this game. Worst defensive performance this season by miles and the sort that might give the likes of Leicester and West Ham who are similar to Palace a bit of encouragement when they play us.

We modified the team to counter the threat of Zaha. moving Mane out wide right presumably to help Milner but even though that was Palace's only attacking option all game we still couldn't stop it. It wasn't just about Zaha though. Defending at set pieces was poor and goals 2 and 3 were as soft as they come. We were fortunate they had a geriatric in goal otherwise we may not have won that game.

I loved JK's fist pumps at the end and he would have been relieved but I hope there was some anger in there too about how sloppy we were. Still, Palace are a hard team to judge. Hodgson has the press fawning all over him for the 'miracle' he pulls off just by keeping them out of the relegation zone when their squad is good enough for them to be in the places occupied by Leicester, Everton or Wolves. I was just glad when it was all over. Massive three points but it was too tense for me. The players are not the only ones needing a winter break.
 



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This also means we could possibly be lining up for our next fixture in second place.

Scoreboard pressure. Seems so unfair considering the run of result we have this season.
No that's not possible because they only play two league games before our next game and are seven points behind.
 

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The crowd were crap as well. At 2-1 and 2-2 the Kop should have been urging us on but it was like a library, they didn't deserve the Klopp fist pumps at the end and the whole ground needs to wake the fuck up and realise the part they have to play if we're going to go on and win it..
Just what is it with that? I don't understand why our fans aren't going full throttle all game. Are we so nervous or something? It doesn't make any sense. This should be the time we are roaring,intimidating the opposition.
That nervousness (if it is) surely is sensed by the players. How often do we hear the players say they appreciate the crowd support? How often does Jurgen talk about about the fans at the ground,needing to provide a hostile atmosphere? Answer, it's because he seen how shit our support is all too often.
My take on Jurgen's fist pumps at the end of the game was that he wasn't too happy about the crowd support and it's somewhat ironic that the crowd roars in approval to his fist pumps and chest beating.
I'm on the other side of the world and i can feel that lack of atmosphere through my TV.
Were you at the game? I'd love to know what others think, particularly those who attended.
 

Dane

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Even if City win their next two games and we then lose to Leicester we would still be a point clear...............or am I missing something? :think:
No you're not missing anything.
We'd have to lose to Leicester, as you say, but when we play our next game, West Ham away, city will have already played so we could be 2 points behind.

Not going to happen though.
 

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Even if City win their next two games and we then lose to Leicester we would still be a point clear...............or am I missing something? :think:
That's how I worked it out as well.

Just what is it with that? I don't understand why our fans aren't going full throttle all game. Are we so nervous or something? It doesn't make any sense. This should be the time we are roaring,intimidating the opposition.
That nervousness (if it is) surely is sensed by the players. How often do we hear the players say they appreciate the crowd support? How often does Jurgen talk about about the fans at the ground,needing to provide a hostile atmosphere? Answer, it's because he seen how shit our support is all too often.
My take on Jurgen's fist pumps at the end of the game was that he wasn't too happy about the crowd support and it's somewhat ironic that the crowd roars in approval to his fist pumps and chest beating.
I'm on the other side of the world and i can feel that lack of atmosphere through my TV.
Were you at the game? I'd love to know what others think, particularly those who attended.
I was at the game and didn't think that it was much different than usual. The Palace fans were vocal throughout the game and credit to them they sang about there own team and none of the usual songs slagging us off like some teams. There were some quiet moments but no more than usual.
 



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I gave motm to Mane , not just for his well taken goal but I remember a great and very important tackle in our own box .Salah was busy as ever and will geo motm for his goals . Always tough against CP. They are a big ,fast quick tackling side and an on form Zaha is difficult to handle.
 

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Zaha would be a great addition .
He’s strong quick and has loads of tricks .
I think he’s a better finisher than Sadio .
Would give us the option of mixing it up a bit .
Zaha left and Sadio on the right could work .
Jurgen seems to like him .
Let’s not dish the lad in case he does end up here
 



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We've now got as many points by game 23 that we achieved the year BR was sacked and Klopp arrived.

Incredible progress we've made.
We have also already got more points than in Rafas first season. And that team boasted Alonso/Hamman/Gerrard/ etc.
Amazing how woeful we were that season in the league. Yet I forgive them all. Glorious.
 

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Hodgson has the press fawning all over him for the 'miracle' he pulls off just by keeping them out of the relegation zone when their squad is good enough for them to be in the places occupied by Leicester, Everton or Wolves. I was just glad when it was all over. Massive three points but it was too tense for me. The players are not the only ones needing a winter break.
That’s classic Hodge. Reduce expectations to the point where he can exceed them. He did that here - he convinced everyone (apart from the fans) this was where scrapping around mid-table was a major achievement.

When he lets them play you can see how good they could be. They could easily be competing in that ‘best of the rest’ group.
 



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Hell of a schedule, that. Nice break for all of us

That said, why go to the Middle East? When places like Barbados, east Caribbean (St Maarten/Antigua) are similar distances.

Never been to UAE (wife has twice for work) and she much prefers the laid back vibe of the Caribbean (and the cost associated)
Dubai is slightly closer and will have better facilities than the Caribbean. They won't be going just for a holiday.

They're at the airport now, not sure how long they're going for. This worked out well last year though.
Most of those places are two flights, not one, and often a short hop - it will end up being a 12-14 hour travel day. London to Dubai, probably even Manchester to Dubai, is one direct flight, in your hotel inside eight hours. As Illok says, not many world class training facilities going, whereas Dubai has developed a bit of a niche market for exactly this purpose - there are a couple of places clubs can book out for a week with underpitch *cooling*, training facilities that compare with Melwood, the whole bit.
 
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I think now is the time to make our move for Zaha. He terrorised Milner playing on his opposite wing. He’s matured and shown that he can and does perform week-in-week-out and that he can be a key player.

My God, if we signed this lad, Werner, F Mendy and a top quality young LCB/LB in the summer they could leave the red ribbons on the EPL trophy for next season as well!
 

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Just wanted to comment on Keita and say we need to persevere. When he gets the ball, then turns and runs with it, it opens things up. OK it’s not quite clicking for him yet, but there is a good player there, I’ve no doubt of that.

He seemed to play on the left today, when going through the middle is more his game. Also, he was up against an excellent Wan Bissaka, and there won’t be many who will get any change out of him. I doubt he will stay at Palace for too long.

Anyhow, I’m keeping the faith in Keita.
Notwithstanding the fact he got his assist later in the match, I thought his level of play really dropped from about 25 minutes onward, when he got taken down hard with a tackle that was ruled clean - I think it was Tomkins? He seemed to be just getting to another level, had driven with the ball a couple of time in the preceding few minutes, and went really quiet again.

Not really sure what to make of that.