Post match: Liverpool v Everton (EPL 4/12/19 8.15pm)

Man of the match

  • Adrian

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Alexander-Arnold [off 83’]

    Votes: 9 5.4%
  • Lovren

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • Wijnaldum [GOAL 90’]

    Votes: 17 10.1%
  • Milner

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Lallana [off 73’]

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • Shaqiri [GOAL 17’]

    Votes: 46 27.4%
  • Mane [GOAL 44’]

    Votes: 122 72.6%
  • Origi [GOAL 6’, 31’, off 73’]

    Votes: 98 58.3%
  • Henderson [on 73’]

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Firmino [on 73’]

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Gomez [on 83’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    168
  • Poll closed .

Hammanbags

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Firmino, who was pushed into the crowd by Holgate a couple years ago, ending Holgate's defensive career to set up Wijnaldum. Can't stop watching

YES !!
I enjoyed the commentary - a novelty these days
I enjoyed the game - unusual for a derby
I enjoyed the goals - Filthy pass from Mane for the opener
I enjoyed the beers I drank for each goal - Sainsbury's Rye Pale Ale if you're at all interested

...but most of all I enjoyed watching Bobby turn that little fucking snake inside out before setting up the 5th.
As soon as I saw he was in the starting line-up I was itching for Bobby to come on and do that - Fucking brilliant
 

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The problem is the word - Knee-jerk typically indicates without thought.. Not many I've seen who have discussed strengthening and the lack of performances from our "fringe" have done so in a manner which I'd say as without thinking.

As I say, when you get "ha ha ha - you think you are cleverer than Klopp you said he should buy a player but Origi scored two worldies so you are wrong" (hyperbole - yes) type posts in my opinion it comes across as petty point scoring where there is no need.
Well I can't help how you interpret posts.
 

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Mane has been our best forward for about 12-15 months now, the scenario with Salah and Firmino is this though, you can't try and isolate the one because the other two will bite you on the arse.

It's why it worried me last night but Shaqiri showed he has a place in this side, similar to when we only start Robertson or TAA, if both are pinging it in you really have no chance.

As for the long ball, not many could bring it down and put it beautifully in the net like Origi did. I had thought he had missed it but then I realised Pickford is only about 5ft so it's still going in. McCoist said you could label it long ball but that wouldn't do it justice.
 
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An interesting stat, taken from the beeb's website: Silva is the first Everton manager to concede five league goals against Liverpool in a single match since Howard Kendall in November 1982 (5-0 against Bob Paisley's side).

It's fair to say that the derbies have often been scrappy affairs over the years, often due to our own mediocrity. This result is a further step to reconnect us with our glorious past.
 

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An interesting stat, taken from the beeb's website: Silva is the first Everton manager to concede five league goals against Liverpool in a single match since Howard Kendall in November 1982 (5-0 against Bob Paisley's side).

It's fair to say that the derbies have often been scrappy affairs over the years, often due to our own mediocrity. This result is a further step to reconnect us with our glorious past.
And we won the title in that season ;) We do have a habit of thrashing them every few seasons at Anfield and we were due one. As I said it very much puts me in mind of the Man Utd game at Anfield last season just not a close but as clinical.
 

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After a busy day Christmas shopping I have finally got around to posting, but I think I got my Christmas present last night :)
Every one of our players put in a great performance. some of the passing and finishing was dream like. I felt that at times we were being a bit carefulas no one wanted to get injured at this exciting time and the boys in blue were putting it about a bit to say the least. The subtle change in tactics worked seamlessly. MOTM for me was Sadio just edging out Divock . What a great stand in keeper Adrian is proving to be, Dejan is in the form of his life and Lallana has found a new lease of life ( although over does the turns sometimes in dangerous positions.) Shaqu is back with a bang . ( I watched on a Croation stream where he seems to be known as "Sakrishi ":) ) I think this is a good idea for me as I get really wound up by some of the biased rubbish that comes from the English commentators.
Onward and upward. Hoping for a similar show against Bournemouth on Saturday.
 

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An interesting stat, taken from the beeb's website: Silva is the first Everton manager to concede five league goals against Liverpool in a single match since Howard Kendall in November 1982 (5-0 against Bob Paisley's side).

It's fair to say that the derbies have often been scrappy affairs over the years, often due to our own mediocrity. This result is a further step to reconnect us with our glorious past.
The two 4-0's in recent years could have been cricket scores. When Sturridge missed a pen to make it 5-0 after an hour it seemed to kill the game and the 2nd time we just faffed around after Mori got sent off. Even last night we just controlled the game the whole 2nd half and didn't really look to score any more. All 3 games have been routs but could have been massacres if we"d been more ruthless.
 

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What a game! Mane turned up the style today and Origi did his revenge on Everton again for 2 seasons running. Origi really does hate Everton, does he? Usually, his touches would be pretty sloppy but today, it was nothing short of Dennis Bergkamp-esque.

As for our midfield, it is obvious that Fabinho will be a great miss from now to the new year (and it will also take time for him to get fully fit) and the alternatives are quite a drop below Fabinho. Hendo can pass well but he cannot take being pressed, causing him to just play those safe passes. Gini, milner, lallana, AOC and Keita are all better in the no. 8 positions. I get we are not man city who can buy anyone they want but DM is a specialist position that requires a press-resistant player to be there and time to learn how to play as Liverpool DM. It is no coincidence the arrival of a specialist DM like Fabinho has also led to us winning our first big trophy in years! I hope we address this soon!

Shaqiri did well. He can probably do a job against teams that are not too adventurous in their wing-play.

Regarding our defence, we were just one red card and a match ban away on Virgil when he did that rash tackle on that Evertonian player in our six yard box. Thank goodness for VAR. Lovren should probably play as our new number 6 given how he becomes a David Luiz who has a mistake in him but has a good passing range. Our full-backs were feisty today but their tackles should be more controlled.
 

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My absolute favorite part of the game ....

Martin Tyler: I mean you could declare Liverpool a long ball team ..... snigger snigger
Background: snigger snigger
Martin Tyler: But not that type of long ball team, here's another .. Lovren, that's a super ball, WHAT a touch, WHAT a finish, WHAT a magnificent goal ... from Divock Origi
Martin Tyler: THAT was sumptuous!
 

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My absolute favorite part of the game ....

Martin Tyler: I mean you could declare Liverpool a long ball team ..... snigger snigger
Background: snigger snigger
Martin Tyler: But not that type of long ball team, here's another .. Lovren, that's a super ball, WHAT a touch, WHAT a finish, WHAT a magnificent goal ... from Divock Origi
Martin Tyler: THAT was sumptuous!
He's a super sexy beast our Lovren and Origi is just soo cool! :cool:
 

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That Calvert Lewin fall when he got past Van Dijk, every fucking pundit keep saying it's a penalty. The player himself didn't even protest that much when he went down. He is known for going down easily, and the commentators mentioned it when he dived in front of Robertson for a freekick. But pundits all over keep going on and on about it should have been red for Van Dijk, the fucker dived!
 

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Watched the extended highlights earlier. I don't think I've ever seen a pass like that one from Mane for the first. Just 'how?'. All the goals were absolute worldies. Not only have I never seen a Liverpool team as good as this, I honestly think this is the best team I've ever seen full stop! What a fucking laugh being a red right now. If we can tighten the back up we'll never drop a point again :ROFLMAO: I'm not going to say 'the words' but I truly believe it this season. We are fucking sensational (y)
 

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That Calvert Lewin fall when he got past Van Dijk, every fucking pundit keep saying it's a penalty. The player himself didn't even protest that much when he went down. He is known for going down easily, and the commentators mentioned it when he dived in front of Robertson for a freekick. But pundits all over keep going on and on about it should have been red for Van Dijk, the fucker dived!
That's the level VVD is at, just getting past him and commentators and pundits feel that opposition should win the game.
It's a scandal that messi won the ballon d'or.
 

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My motm is for Lovren. The forwards were brilliant, but playing behind a "looser" line of forwards and midfielders, plus the absolutely superb deliveries in behind the Everton defenders, I just think it must go to a defender. Trent and Degsy with some absolute peaches today.
As did I. I gave my 3 to Lovren, Mane, and Origi. I am not making excuses for Degsy, the Richarlison goal, it was just a seeing-eye pass that found its target. It happens from time to time.

Origi’s 2nd goal was just sublime, his touch to bring the ball down world class. Can you imagine the press and TV pundits reaction if that was Messi scoring that exact same goal?? It would be vomit inducing!
I can't stop watching it. There were so many exquisite moments in the match. I've had the extended highlights on repeat all day:

Mane's first assist looked like he had the ball on a string. The way he curled it directly to Origi's boots, absolutely inch perfect.

The diagonal pass from Trent to Sadio was world class, then Sadio putting Sidibe on ice skates going backwards making another beautiful pass to Shaq for a goal.

Origi bringing Lovren's long ball down over his shoulder, full sprint, one touch, then with the next touch putting it over Pickford. I don't think it can be overstated how unbelievably difficult that is and how much body control it takes.

Bobby rinsing Holgate and sending him out for a hot dog and popcorn to watch Gini's goal.

All of it sensational, fluid, attacking, fearless, world class football. Not hyperbole to say it left me speechless.
 

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What a game! Mane turned up the style today and Origi did his revenge on Everton again for 2 seasons running. Origi really does hate Everton, does he? Usually, his touches would be pretty sloppy but today, it was nothing short of Dennis Bergkamp-esque.

As for our midfield, it is obvious that Fabinho will be a great miss from now to the new year (and it will also take time for him to get fully fit) and the alternatives are quite a drop below Fabinho. Hendo can pass well but he cannot take being pressed, causing him to just play those safe passes. Gini, milner, lallana, AOC and Keita are all better in the no. 8 positions. I get we are not man city who can buy anyone they want but DM is a specialist position that requires a press-resistant player to be there and time to learn how to play as Liverpool DM. It is no coincidence the arrival of a specialist DM like Fabinho has also led to us winning our first big trophy in years! I hope we address this soon!

Shaqiri did well. He can probably do a job against teams that are not too adventurous in their wing-play.

Regarding our defence, we were just one red card and a match ban away on Virgil when he did that rash tackle on that Evertonian player in our six yard box. Thank goodness for VAR. Lovren should probably play as our new number 6 given how he becomes a David Luiz who has a mistake in him but has a good passing range. Our full-backs were feisty today but their tackles should be more controlled.
The problem is how to identify a DM of sufficient quality to fit the system AND be content to be backup up for Fabinho. In January! You can see the difficulty, no?
 

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As did I. I gave my 3 to Lovren, Mane, and Origi. I am not making excuses for Degsy, the Richarlison goal, it was just a seeing-eye pass that found its target. It happens from time to time.



I can't stop watching it. There were so many exquisite moments in the match. I've had the extended highlights on repeat all day:

Mane's first assist looked like he had the ball on a string. The way he curled it directly to Origi's boots, absolutely inch perfect.

The diagonal pass from Trent to Sadio was world class, then Sadio putting Sidibe on ice skates going backwards making another beautiful pass to Shaq for a goal.

Origi bringing Lovren's long ball down over his shoulder, full sprint, one touch, then with the next touch putting it over Pickford. I don't think it can be overstated how unbelievably difficult that is and how much body control it takes.

Bobby rinsing Holgate and sending him out for a hot dog and popcorn to watch Gini's goal.

All of it sensational, fluid, attacking, fearless, world class football. Not hyperbole to say it left me speechless.
World class post!! I love the line about Bobby and Holgate. From my seat in the Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand, I couldn’t really see what Bobby did to Holgate. It was only when I saw the highlights later that I could really appreciate what a moment of genius it was.
 

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World class post!! I love the line about Bobby and Holgate. From my seat in the Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand, I couldn’t really see what Bobby did to Holgate. It was only when I saw the highlights later that I could really appreciate what a moment of genius it was.
Yeah you're right. It's not till you get home and watch the replays that you know what's really gone on. The VvD tackle that everyone is screaming "penalty and red card" about looked really innocuous to me. Now I've seen it on telly I can say that it was a pen but no red card.
Back to Boby though, what a comeback/slap in the face for Holgate.
 

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World class post!! I love the line about Bobby and Holgate. From my seat in the Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand, I couldn’t really see what Bobby did to Holgate. It was only when I saw the highlights later that I could really appreciate what a moment of genius it was.
LOL, I read that BBC commentary explained it as Firmino turned Holgate into a pretzel for the Gini goal.

 

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That Calvert Lewin fall when he got past Van Dijk, every fucking pundit keep saying it's a penalty. The player himself didn't even protest that much when he went down. He is known for going down easily, and the commentators mentioned it when he dived in front of Robertson for a freekick. But pundits all over keep going on and on about it should have been red for Van Dijk, the fucker dived!
I agree he did the same thing in a previous derby game where he bounced off Lovren and went down like a sack of shit and bought a penalty
 

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Yeah you're right. It's not till you get home and watch the replays that you know what's really gone on. The VvD tackle that everyone is screaming "penalty and red card" about looked really innocuous to me. Now I've seen it on telly I can say that it was a pen but no red card.
Back to Boby though, what a comeback/slap in the face for Holgate.
I see it as shoulder to shoulder, and calvert "dunnykin diver" lewin going down too easily after he stubbed his foot.


And on the subject of penalties not being awarded, no mention of VVD clearly getting mugged by mina and keane.


What is the point of VAR?
 
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