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Post Match: Liverpool v Man Utd (EPL 19/1/20 4.30pm)

Man of the match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 24 13.7%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 7 4.0%
  • Van Dijk [GOAL 14’]

    Votes: 108 61.7%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Henderson

    Votes: 87 49.7%
  • Wijnaldum

    Votes: 83 47.4%
  • Oxlade-Chamberlain [off 66’]

    Votes: 4 2.3%
  • Salah [GOAL 90+2’]

    Votes: 15 8.6%
  • Firmino [off 82]

    Votes: 14 8.0%
  • Mane [off 82’]

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Lallana [on 66’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fabinho [on 82’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Origi [on 82’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    175
  • Poll closed .

JibJab

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From the TV view, it looked the Salah goal was one of the biggest pops I can remember from the Anfield faithful. It was like so much built up tension released in an explosion of joy. Alisson running the pitch after him ala Pepe Reina after the N'Gog goal made that moment somehow even more amazing.

I've watched the replay of that goal and celebration like 20 times now.
 

shachart

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Just curious regarding the rules. For the 2nd goal Allison kicks the ball from his hands not from the grass. The linesman has indicated an offside, doesn't that mean Allison should have played the ball from the grass ?
 

jredp

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Surely you should ask Red Nose.
As far as I'm concerned we don't have a perch as we never said we had one. By accepting a perch we demean ourselves to Manures level. It just shouldn't enter our vocabulary. It's a shame the media made such a fuss about it causeing some of us to take it seriously. We are Liverpool and our emblem is a Liverbird that's all.
if I may add to that
It's others that admire/respect the heros/heroines and therefore place them on whatever. Being humble, honest and striving to be the best puts you in another league, and that is our DNA
YNWA
 

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https://www.football365.com/news/16-conclusions-liverpool-2-0-manchester-united-virgil-van-dijk-mo-salah

I thought this was a pretty good article. Apologies if it's already been posted.
That's a great read.
Watching a replay of this match something occurred to me. Have any forumites heard of any players being red carded for a high tackle since Sadio's red card against Citoil a few seasons ago? I can think of two similar fouls this season against our players without even a yellow being produced (Sadio against Villa when he scored the winner and yesterday Andreas on Gini).
 

SithBaare

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Virgil makes no attempt to go for the ball? Is that the official position, or just manurite tyler's interpretation.

Either way, it's nonsense. Virgil jumps just as high as de gea. Or isn't anyone allowed to challenge the goalie for the ball now?
Was a foul and then advantage given to Man Utd as Maguire got the ball. The Manures were only whining when they got gegenpressed and firmino scored a goal.
 

Jimmyscase

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Was a foul and then advantage given to Man Utd as Maguire got the ball. The Manures were only whining when they got gegenpressed and firmino scored a goal.
That's spot on. Pawson would have given it as a foul if it had rebounded from De Gea's gloves to a Liverpool player directly. You're right, he was playing advantage, tacitly. As soon as we score it has to be checked and to everyone following this in real time it looks like VAR and Pawson's views on the matter are polar opposites. They aren't. The huddle around Pawson was irrelevant to the VAR decision and pointless as regards changing Pawson's view as it had already been taken out of his hands by the goal check. Man Utd players were just wasting energy and risking yellows, only Luke Shaw tried to come between De Gea and Pawson. Obviously, his intelligence has been slightly underrated!
 
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Quicksand

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That's spot on. Pawson would have given it as a foul if it had rebounded from De Gea's gloves to a Liverpool player directly. You're right, he was playing advantage, tacitly. As soon as we score it has to be checked and to everyone following this in real time it looks like VAR and Pawson's views on the matter are polar opposites. They aren't. The huddle around Pawson was irrelevant to the VAR decision and pointless as regards changing Pawson's view as it had already been taken out of his hands by the goal check. Man Utd players were just wasting energy and risking yellows, only Luke Shaw tried to come between De Gea and Pawson. Obviously, his intelligence has been slightly underrated!
At what point does Maguire lose advantage though. He has ample opportunity to clear the ball and doesnt. Advantage is played fairly quickly? Thus the goal should have stood??
 

The Phenom

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They have so many different ways of inflicting pain and pressure that succumbing to one of them is inevitable.
It could be a Firmino flick, some Salah magic, a sudden burst and finish from Mane, Divock Origi tripping over his own shoelaces and accidentally arsing it in or Georginio Wijnaldum finishing a sublime team move.
GOLD!


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Watching a replay of Sunday's match, there was a shot of Virgil celebrating his goal. It looked like it was filmed from pitch level in front of the manure fans. There was a beautiful backdrop of the Kop with a red sky above it. I would love a still of that scene.
 

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Watching a replay of Sunday's match, there was a shot of Virgil celebrating his goal. It looked like it was filmed from pitch level in front of the manure fans. There was a beautiful backdrop of the Kop with a red sky above it. I would love a still of that scene.
As am I and thought exactly the same thing. Spooky. I also paid special attention to the disallowed Firmino goal and it's quite funny; De Gea hits the ground on his feet then almost as an afterthought goes to ground (can quite clearly notice the split second delay) then gets up a little holding his back and shuffles to his feet like a geriatric only to then leap like a salmon for the attempted save and sprints to the ref thereafter with remarkable alacrity and verve. Tosser.
 

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Watching the Inside Anfield and there's a moment where Henderson is talking to the referee in the tunnel and you can distinctly hear him saying "I thought it had to be clear" and its obvious he's talking about the VAR for Firmino's goal. Made me giggle.
 

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That's spot on. Pawson would have given it as a foul if it had rebounded from De Gea's gloves to a Liverpool player directly. You're right, he was playing advantage, tacitly. As soon as we score it has to be checked and to everyone following this in real time it looks like VAR and Pawson's views on the matter are polar opposites. They aren't. The huddle around Pawson was irrelevant to the VAR decision and pointless as regards changing Pawson's view as it had already been taken out of his hands by the goal check. Man Utd players were just wasting energy and risking yellows, only Luke Shaw tried to come between De Gea and Pawson. Obviously, his intelligence has been slightly underrated!
I really doubt that. No defender would want an advantage in that situation. There really isn't an advantage to be had when your keeper has just been fouled and is on the floor..
 

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I really doubt that. No defender would want an advantage in that situation. There really isn't an advantage to be had when your keeper has just been fouled and is on the floor..
Generally speaking yes however it must be said that a lot of counterattacking situations from back to front result from broken play like that; opponent's CB completely out the game, opponent forwards and midfield completely pushed up with maybe just a fullback and 6 on the halfway line. Any counterattacking team worth it's salt goes to bed dreaming of having the ball drop kindly to them in that situation, which in all fairness, it did to Maguire. He just shat himself seeing the red tide in front of him.
 

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By going straight up and down and not touching the keeper.

By getting his head to the ball before any contact is made.

Seriously this needs to end as its a bad look for the forum crying about not being given a goal that is a foul 999 times out of 1000. Sure, the PGMOL are idiots, and you can complain about VAR and clear and obvious errors, but it was the right decision.
Not saying VVD's wasn't a foul, but could someone familiar with the LotG tell me how that one differed to this one:


And why ours was disallowed while Westwood's was allowed to stand?
 

SithBaare

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Not saying VVD's wasn't a foul, but could someone familiar with the LotG tell me how that one differed to this one:


And why ours was disallowed while Westwood's was allowed to stand?


Maybe because it would take the spectacle away when Liverpool are 2-0 ahead instead. Arent referees instructed to ensure that the spectacle is in place always? Burnley getting a lead at Liverpool would probably ensure that more people tune in to view the game; Hence more $$$

Edit : If anything this was a clear foul on Allisson. There is still ambiguity over whether the coming together of VVD and DDG was strong enough for him to actually drop the ball
 

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Not saying VVD's wasn't a foul, but could someone familiar with the LotG tell me how that one differed to this one:


And why ours was disallowed while Westwood's was allowed to stand?
Sample the reactions to that goal. I don't remember too many people understanding how it could have been allowed to stand.
 

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Just heard Mancs charged for acting like children in a playground....and Mancs/Rashford saying he needs 2 ops...1 for a floating bone after a tackle by Jordan...these people blame anyone but themselves.... And they are in LA LA land.