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Post match: Liverpool v Salzburg (UCL 2/10/2019 8pm)

Man of the Match

  • Adrian

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Robertson [GOAL 25']

    Votes: 59 54.6%
  • Fabinho

    Votes: 20 18.5%
  • Henderson [off 60']

    Votes: 4 3.7%
  • Wijnaldum [off 64']

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Salah [GOAL 36', 69', off 90']

    Votes: 30 27.8%
  • Firmino

    Votes: 35 32.4%
  • Mane [GOAL 9']

    Votes: 28 25.9%
  • Milner [on 60']

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Origi [on 64']

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Keita [on 90']

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    108
  • Poll closed .


Mascot88

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we underestimated salzburg. they've got a good team. some of their players are actually pretty good. minamino is sensational. liverpool should start scouting great players in lesser leagues. :unsure:
I might be going out on a limb, but I doubt there is a player in Europe a club at the level of Liverpool don't have detailed information on.
 



T.C.B

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Henderson caught in possession for the 1st, alright its a great finish and he sells Virgil a great dummy. Henderson seems to loose his head as a result.
2nd goal they get caught by a quick free kick. Minimino is inside the centre circle as it's taken and he runs all the way to where he strikes the ball with no one even aware of where he is. That's a midfield issue.
3rd goal neither Gomez nor TAA have any awareness of where Haaland is as strolls in to score.
 

Obanite

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Tempting to look at the result of this and assume we reverted to 2016, falling apart at the back and riding our luck. Really not the case. The first 35 mins or so, I genuinely mentioned to my pal I thought it was one of the best Liverpool performances I'd seen in years. We were superb from back to front, comfortable on the ball, creative and very accomplished at the back. Every player seemed to have perfect spatial awareness and could find teammates with ease, often with some cracking balls.

And then they scored against the run of play. Thought 'ehh', weird, but we'll knock a couple more past them second half the way we're playing. Then suddenly, we switched off for no conceivable reason I can understand. Players stopped tracking back, we became sloppy and negative and suddenly looked in trouble every time Salzburg put on the press. Very, very weird. Home and dry at least - and think we deserved it - but Klopp will rightfully be hammering them for not going the full 90.
 

Magnus

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Vardy must be licking his lips looking at us playing his this high line and looking a little disjointed.

We honestly look nervous at times. Very unlike VvD
If we manage to play like we did tonight against Leicester, and I don't really think we will , we will sack Leicester completely as they are not on Salzburg's level offensively at all. Leicester, on a very good day where everything clicks for them, is good for 3 goals, but they almost never have such days, so I wouldn't worry that much. If we score 2 goals against Leicester we probably win even with a couple of defensive mistakes.
 

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Sloppy and complacent. One of the rare times a winning result can and should be questioned and analysed by the staff. The win at the weekend was less of a performance than this in many ways but the lads were nailed on in the game. What happened today was completely avoidable which must be stamped out. The midfield, and I mean Henderson and Wijnaldum completely disappeared between 40 and 60 minutes. I can't blame Klopp for not making a change earlier, was early on still and the change in tempo was evident almost immediately. The boys need to own what happened and knuckle down again. Salzburg are a good team but we made them look a helluva lot better.

That said, we found a way as we now have come to expect which is the character and mentality that we have built. Lessons will be taken on board I am sure. 3 points, Genk to come while Napoli and this lot take points off each other. All's well that ends well.
 



Incognito

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Think the issue is tiredness more than anything else. Gini and Hendo have been playing non stop and the effect that has on our midfielders is much more than the others. The evident flaws in defense aren't the making of the back 5 alone but the mid 3 as well. Gini and Hendo under usual circumstances wouldn't have been this sloppy or let the center of the park this open.

So the misplaced passes, lack of concentration, sloppiness, less tracking back or the flicks that didn't work out or the very reason for trying those in the first place IMO is all making of the tired legs. No wonder Klopp had to change that mid game. Keita and Ox will need to step up big time now.
 

LuisSuarez

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Still confused on what Gini actually offers to this team. Wish we had a proper attacking midfield player with our front three.
 

sportbilly1966

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Henderson caught in possession for the 1st, alright its a great finish and he sells Virgil a great dummy. Henderson seems to loose his head as a result.
2nd goal they get caught by a quick free kick. Minimino is inside the centre circle as it's taken and he runs all the way to where he strikes the ball with no one even aware of where he is. That's a midfield issue.
3rd goal neither Gomez nor TAA have any awareness of where Haaland is as strolls in to score.
Still feel Virg should have stopped the cross he just seemed lazy, but the communication between Trent and Joe needs to be better
 

yiannos33

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Wow. Watched the game at the pub. Next game I’m thinking of checking myself in the hospital to watch a game.
1st half we were awesome,miles ahead of them. Should of score 1 or 2 more. 2nd half they were better.
They are a good team with good young players. They will take points away from Napoli.
 



XMarlin

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Bobby MOTM for me.

Good points:

1) we won
2) that prick LeSaux wasn't anywhere near this match.
3) nobody got hurt

In the pre match thread I said "...
If the lads stay focused and composed this should be a good result for us

Gomez more than capable of partnering with VVD but I think TAA should consider not striking as deep..."

I think the right side of the pitch is problematic right now. It seems as if we're being exploited there.

If I were the opposition actician I'd be telling my side to run at the Liverpool left...overload it because TAA will be too far upfield and chances are pretty good there will be space there because nobody is filling the space. That doesnt happen when Robertson moves up.

I was beginning to wonder if Alberto Moreno had nicked TAA's jersey.

Hopefully Klopp will have a "Come-to-Jesus meeting" with the lads before Leicester City come to visit...

Seems like we're forgetting the basics...composure and focus.

OK....rant over.

Thanks for listening...

I'll go pour myself a drink now...
 

Magnus

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Henderson, Wijnaldum it's time for a break.
Against certain teams, speedy fast blitzkrieg teams, I agree. Then they both tend to be much too slow (though I do remember Henderson playing well as a stabilising factor against City, and they are not usually slow). But they are actually sometimes among our very best players with a different match picture.
 

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At the moment in this competition collecting the points is the important thing. This was a continuation of the past weekend. There was no cohesion in our team, Salzburg won most of the 50/50 balls, players were switching off at the wrong time. Salah who used to create his goals seems to have lost his spark despite his two goals. As long as we keep on winning even when we are off, I’m OK :). Onwards we march
 

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On the plus side of the game, to go 3-0 up, concede 3, slightly dazed and confused, then retake the lead and then see the game out with relative ease thereafter shows a real maturity.

There was no panic, we stepped up. Its good to have that experience in the bag and know we have that in our locker.
 



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Van Dijk needs a performance like this occasionally to recalibrate. I know he will take the right measures in his own game to stop looking as mediocre in the box ever again. His post match interview showed it wasn't him who downplayed the importance of Salzburg's first goal during half-time. I'm concerned though that until Milner came on Klopp's message hadn't got through.
 

MrRinsin

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Yeah that was some ride but made up with the win against a tricky opponent that had some mad luck with the loose ball and bounce, any other day we'd have 7 in that game. They took their goals well though. Please Salah got two, he played well tonight. Overall it'll be forgotten if we make it out of the group as we should, let's go batter Genk, Napoli got a point away so that helps if we want to win the group, win the rest of the games.
 

Incognito

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Still confused on what Gini actually offers to this team. Wish we had a proper attacking midfield player with our front three.
Gini would still play behind those 4. Things Gini does are what is expected out of him, keeping it simple, circulating the ball, tracking back, etc etc..which keeps us ticking. Not fancy, but every team needs one.
 



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Couldn't watch. Will grab highlights later.

Consider this: We've allowed just 5 goals against in 7 PL matches. These guys put 3 past us in 21 minutes at Anfield. What's the thesis? Is Matip that important? Were we just a bit leggy getting back defending?
 

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Tempting to look at the result of this and assume we reverted to 2016, falling apart at the back and riding our luck. Really not the case. The first 35 mins or so, I genuinely mentioned to my pal I thought it was one of the best Liverpool performances I'd seen in years. We were superb from back to front, comfortable on the ball, creative and very accomplished at the back. Every player seemed to have perfect spatial awareness and could find teammates with ease, often with some cracking balls.

And then they scored against the run of play. Thought 'ehh', weird, but we'll knock a couple more past them second half the way we're playing. Then suddenly, we switched off for no conceivable reason I can understand. Players stopped tracking back, we became sloppy and negative and suddenly looked in trouble every time Salzburg put on the press. Very, very weird. Home and dry at least - and think we deserved it - but Klopp will rightfully be hammering them for not going the full 90.
It makes absolute sense to see it this way as spectators. My guess is that Klopp has struggled all week to get the Salzburg threat big enough in our best players mind. Matip would have been listening but he couldn't play.
 

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Midfield needs sorting something quick. Getting run over way too easily, too often. Hendo was not very good at all today, and the other two were meh.

That said, plenty of space for our forwards to work in, and we should have scored buckets of goals. Will be a fun one there, I imagine.
 

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Couldn't watch. Will grab highlights later.

Consider this: We've allowed just 5 goals against in 7 PL matches. These guys put 3 past us in 21 minutes at Anfield. What's the thesis? Is Matip that important? Were we just a bit leggy getting back defending?
Salzburg was very lethal though, more so than what we usually face in the Premier League. Normally, we do actually lose possession even in those games where everyone agrees that we played very well, but it is rare that teams convert that into goals against us in this manner. Their finishing was very good. But yeah, there was indeed some minutes in the second half where they made us look like headless hen, but that was maybe due to psychology, in that we became rattled by their attacking display. Still, I think this match and this experience (that very good counter attacking teams can thread passes through our defense) may do us good in the long run.