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Post match: Liverpool v Salzburg (UCL 2/10/2019 8pm)

Man of the Match

  • Adrian

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Robertson [GOAL 25']

    Votes: 59 54.6%
  • Fabinho

    Votes: 20 18.5%
  • Henderson [off 60']

    Votes: 4 3.7%
  • Wijnaldum [off 64']

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Salah [GOAL 36', 69', off 90']

    Votes: 30 27.8%
  • Firmino

    Votes: 35 32.4%
  • Mane [GOAL 9']

    Votes: 28 25.9%
  • Milner [on 60']

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Origi [on 64']

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Keita [on 90']

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    108
  • Poll closed .

Jimmyscase

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Gini would still play behind those 4. Things Gini does are what is expected out of him, keeping it simple, circulating the ball, tracking back, etc etc..which keeps us ticking. Not fancy, but every team needs one.
Outstanding player who infuriates people for playing in patches. Today he was very good for 25 minutes in the first half, which is often enough.
 


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Still feel Virg should have stopped the cross he just seemed lazy, but the communication between Trent and Joe needs to be better
Thats a very valid point, just watched it again and he could have done better.
At times tonight I was reminded of the Barca game last season when our attacking play in the first 35mins was sublime. Not that we need reminding of the score on that night but the "nil" was just as important as the 4 we scored. Obviuosly people will think I'm harping on about it but in general I feel we haven't defended well enough this season. I don't expect us not to concede goals but I watched many games last season and was never fearful that we were vulnerable, I don't feel that secure so far this season to be brutally honest. Having Alisson back will help but I'd be willing to bet Klopp will not be happy with what he saw in tonights game both in terms of keeping them out and in how his midfield struggled with runners from deep.
 

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A win, perfect, yet that doesn't mean the team escapes a huge bollocking, unfortunately the person shitting them out, needs to be on the receiving end as well.

A 30 minutes to forget. The entire team went through stages of complete mental meltdown. I could just see the comeback on the cards, and the midfield was in desperate need for a change at 3-1 up, Henderson should have came off before they scored the 2ng goal, I am sure everyone could see that! The games needed proactive, not reactive management.

The finishing was really poor. Passing was poor. The Gomez and Virgil partnership looked strangely uncomfortable. The midfield was weak, only Fab came out of that with some credibility. Gini or Henderson should of been subbed, I think Henderson coming off was the right choice. Bobby needed to be more greedy.

I really don’t see a MOM in this mess, maybe Milner for calming things down, or Anfield for helping lifting the team up.

We should, and could have made a major dent in Salzburg’s ability to get out of this group, now they are in a decent position with that performance and a escaped with most of their goal difference intact.
 



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Couldn't watch. Will grab highlights later.

Consider this: We've allowed just 5 goals against in 7 PL matches. These guys put 3 past us in 21 minutes at Anfield. What's the thesis? Is Matip that important? Were we just a bit leggy getting back defending?
We had a similar record last season when Gomez and VVD were the first choice pairing.

Moral - I guess less rotation of the defence, maybe?
 

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The question is always not if a player is good or not, but can he perform week in week out. That's the question with many players from the mid range leagues.
Our front three are brilliant and terrible in a much shorter time frame. Mané tonight for example. The sublime first goal and the carelessness of the missed header from Trent's fantastic corner.
 

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Top entertainment that.

Another exciting European night at Anfield. Is there any other way?

So much for the thought we cruise to 12 points and just worry about Napoli. But still on target....

Nice to see Keita get a late run and hopefully he and a fitter and fitter Ox slot in over the next month and keep Gino and Hendo on their toes.

Just a little post match nudge from the great man and all will be good ahead.
 

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It was like being transported back to the early days of Klopp's reign. Sublime attacking play, ridiculous defending when you can't even relax and enjoy the game at 3-0 up because you know there's a chance we might blow it.

I don't think it was complacency tonight. Maybe for their first because we had started to showboat a bit at 3 up but second half we came out with intent and had obviously had a kick up the backside from JK. Trouble was we had come up against a team that exposed our vulnerability in defence and we couldn't do anything about it. That vulnerability has been there since the first game of the season. In fact this was Norwich again only with better quality players in attacking positions who can take their chances.

Last season I don't remember VVD breaking sweat. Now he's forever pelting back towards his own goal trying to cover a 2 against 2 or 2 against 1. We're so high up. There's masses of space for the CBs to cover. It is an exhausting way to play football and I don't think it's sustainable over a whole season unless there's more rotation. Too many of our players looked goosed tonight and tired players make mistakes, like continually conceding possession in dangerous areas.

Thank god for Milner. I was desperate for him to come on and bring some order to it all because some heads were going out there at that point. Origi was also a good sub. We rode out the last 20 comfortably enough and at least we won. A couple of seasons ago we wouldn't have. A big three points against a dangerous team so job done, but there were some warning signs tonight.
 

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A win, perfect, yet that doesn't mean the team escapes a huge bollocking, unfortunately the person shitting them out, needs to be on the receiving end as well.

A 30 minutes to forget. The entire team went through stages of complete mental meltdown. I could just see the comeback on the cards, and the midfield was in desperate need for a change at 3-1 up, Henderson should have came off before they scored the 2ng goal, I am sure everyone could see that! The games needed proactive, not reactive management.

The finishing was really poor. Passing was poor. The Gomez and Virgil partnership looked strangely uncomfortable. The midfield was weak, only Fab came out of that with some credibility. Gini or Henderson should of been subbed, I think Henderson coming off was the right choice. Bobby needed to be more greedy.

I really don’t see a MOM in this mess, maybe Milner for calming things down, or Anfield for helping lifting the team up.

We should, and could have made a major dent in Salzburg’s ability to get out of this group, now they are in a decent position with that performance and a escaped with most of their goal difference intact.
If you struggle, may I friendly remind you that we probably would have lost the game without Firmino's magical passes (assists, they were all excellent) and Robbos powerful performance ? I notiminated those two and I don't regret it :)
 



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First half hour was sensational, we probably should have scored with our first action of the game which was a sign of things to come. The first two goals were beautifully crafted and finished off well.

Thought Henderson orchestrated the tempo and set the tone within this period but then with his mistake his head wobbled a bit and we lost control, conceding before half time is never good as it gives the team impetus to come out and try and get back into the game. Which our lads would have been well aware of which is probably the most concerning thing of the night.

An unexpected complicated victory and full credit to Salzburg but 3 points and we are up and running in the CL.
 

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I didn't know Gomez posts on there? That's the only reason I can think of for the piss-take vote he got for MOTM.
 

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They have at least two players who might be of interest to us - Minimo and Haaland.

Just trying to think through whether players necessarily need a club in between Salzburg and Liverpool. That’s the route Mane and Keita took, and on the one hand, I like the idea of being more proven to come here. But on the other hand, Salzburg are better themselves these days, and the way they played tonight was very compelling.

Any ideas how much the two mentioned would cost?
 

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Still confused on what Gini actually offers to this team. Wish we had a proper attacking midfield player with our front three.
Important, timely goals. (see. Liverpool v Barcelona second leg, Sheffield Utd v Liverpool)
 

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A David Brent result?!!! No, no, no more of this stuff please. Totally ungut for the heart. Jurgen will be having nightmares tonight methinks. Sheeeyat.....
 



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jus take the fuckin 3 points... oh and sign a couple of their players to pre-contracts
Mentioned it a few times in match thread, hats off to them, they are young and fearless and never stop coming. There was something strangely charming about the way they played and handled themselves. It was heart attack for me but for the neutral that was probably a fun match to watch. No drama, no arrogance, no after-whistle histrionics, no diving, no questionable tactics. They respected our side but they simply wanted to go toe-to-toe with our boys - The Champions of Europe - and they acquitted themselves nicely.
 

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It was like being transported back to the early days of Klopp's reign. Sublime attacking play, ridiculous defending when you can't even relax and enjoy the game at 3-0 up because you know there's a chance we might blow it.

I don't think it was complacency tonight. Maybe for their first because we had started to showboat a bit at 3 up but second half we came out with intent and had obviously had a kick up the backside from JK. Trouble was we had come up against a team that exposed our vulnerability in defence and we couldn't do anything about it. That vulnerability has been there since the first game of the season. In fact this was Norwich again only with better quality players in attacking positions who can take their chances.

Last season I don't remember VVD breaking sweat. Now he's forever pelting back towards his own goal trying to cover a 2 against 2 or 2 against 1. We're so high up. There's masses of space for the CBs to cover. It is an exhausting way to play football and I don't think it's sustainable over a whole season unless there's more rotation. Too many of our players looked goosed tonight and tired players make mistakes, like continually conceding possession in dangerous areas.

Thank god for Milner. I was desperate for him to come on and bring some order to it all because some heads were going out there at that point. Origi was also a good sub. We rode out the last 20 comfortably enough and at least we won. A couple of seasons ago we wouldn't have. A big three points against a dangerous team so job done, but there were some warning signs tonight.
Top post mate. We give up too many chances and the space behind the full backs (TAA in particular) that the centre halves have to cover is leaving us exposed.
 

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The main thing is the three points. We really needed those after losing to Napoli. It was all looking so good as we went into a 3-0 lead. But then complacency, coupled with a very good Salzburg side, gave us a real fright. Their team played with great energy.

I wonder what they've been drinking?

We need to improve, and I thought this sort of helter-skelter display was a thing of the past. Hopefully it's a one off and we respond in the right way and tighten up at the back. Still, a win is a win.

Onwards and upwards.
I think they had Red Bull?
 

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Henderson, Wijnaldum it's time for a break.
My love for Gini is a complicated love. I understand when some people get frustrated with him, but he is such a critical player to have in the side for many reasons but he never stops working, his work rate second to none. Now, having said all of that I don't think I entirely understand what is being asked of him from match to match at Liverpool because he seems an entirely different player for Netherlands.
 



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Magnificent first 40 minutes. Their 1st goal seemed to me too casual, like Gomez didn't block the ball because he thought the striker would not reach it. A minor event in our ongoing demolition of the visitors. I was expecting a spurs-esque humilliation for Red Bull.

During half time, I found out Barca was losing at home so I changed the channel for a while, then got a call from my job which had to be attended.

Couldn't have been more shocked when I switched back at 3-3 :unsure:

My vote is for el matador Robertson, what a player.
 

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I wonder how many of us were thinking whom we should rest up for Saturday's game against Leicester when we were 3-0 up. I am totally guilty of it.

Need to remind myself, "Don't count the chickens, don't count the chickens yet".

Wow, what a Jackal and Hyde game. With my poor memory, I do not remember LFC played such beautiful football, racking up the goals. Then, somewhere along the line, completely lost control of the game through the back, mid and front. We were completely ripped apart for the 3 Salzburg goals.

I was cursing from 40 minutes onwards, then stomped upstairs to fill up my water bottle to calm myself down when the score became 3-3 (should have kept my routine of filling up during 1/2 time break, my bad!). I calmed down, looked like Millie and Div also stabilized the team too. So glad that Fabinho redeemed himself with a nice pass to Bobby, and a nice nod to Mo for a smashing goal.

It's difficult to pick the top 3 for this game, almost every single one of the players made bad mistakes or decisions. Nevertheless, a win is a win. Let's hope that the boys learned a lot from this game.

My 3 picks: Robbo, Bobby and Mane. A shout out to Mo scoring the winning goal and some nifty foot works.
 

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Not too arsed about tonight. We wont come up against many teams who set up as Salzburg did, certainly not in the PL. They'd have beaten any other PL team bar us and Abu Dhabi FC playing like that. It's the only way they know and they've got it down to a fine art because they know they'll just steamroller every other team in their league. It comes as a culture shock to teams like ourselves hence the mad nature of the game.
And we got the 3 points so job done. First 2 goals were sensational, Mane was electric for the 1st and Robbo (MOTM for me) started and finished the 2nd.
We were sloppy for their goals but sometimes you just have to give credit to the opposition for exploiting it and Red Bull were clinical in that respect.
At 3-3 we raised our game and we deserve great credit for that, we took the momentum back and deserved to get the winner. JK showed great courage again throwing on another attacker, reminded me of the Spurs game at Anfield last season.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if these took 4 points off Napoli. Win our next 2 and we're well placed.
 

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My biggest concern going into this game was the fact that the front 3 looked out of sorts during the sheffield game.... well now i know should have been the exact opposite concern cause we were dismantled so easily by a team who play such a fluid and direct attacking style. And this weekend we have Leicester? I feel bad for Virgil, cause he has had to be our pillar at back most of this season. Our midfield was also bad today and if we crash like today against Leicester, we will lose.
 

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3 poinst we needed and got them on the worst possibel way!
Hendo putting a wrong pass isn t the end of the world cause salzburg pressed us like hell, but to concede 3 in 20 minutes and still be so vunerabel as we were in the second half was madness. i never thought to see this bunch of players giving up a 3 goal lead.
i m speechless ! Second time i m going to be speechless is if we don t win this shit in Instanbul!
The first 38 minutes were poetry in motion, the following 20 horror movie and the rest...-Phuuuh.
We are the Team everyone want to beat now. Such Tasks and questions will be asked to us time and again. That is the prize when you are the best.

Anfield did what was needed to bring the players back to reality! So thank Fuck we played at home otherwise this would have been a deserved loss imo.
Happy Birthday Bobby !