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does the band wagon have a step ladder ?
does the band wagon have a step ladder ?
I figure that it's important to reference @Alright Now in as many posts as possibleit was the best of times, it was the worst of times, and then it was alright at the end
referring @Scott Jones got boring . he just swore at us .I figure that it's important to reference @Alright Now in as many posts as possible
of course they are a good side . they scored 6 in the first game ? got massive backing and sadio played for them . they are like monaco but just not like psg or city .Don't worry guys. Last time we blew a 3 goal lead in the group stages of the Champions League and Napoli failed to win away at the 4th ranked team in the group, we went all the way to the final
But seriously, Red Bull Salzburg are one of the better outfits outside the top 5 leagues. They have a strategy and have big investment in youth and developing very good teams. Won the UEFA youth league a couple years ago and made the Europa semis. We'll have to be better in Austria
I don't know him personally but I've heard Jesse Marsch is a really nice chap off the pitch. I like the way he manages his sides. He's an intense sort that players seem to love playing for.Salzburg coach Jesse Marsch explains that his side's incredible comeback was eventually killed off by the power of Anfield: "When you come to Anfield you learn it’s not just the quality opponent, but the environment and the occasion at a stadium like this. It’s incredible."
Happened a bit during the Newcastle game. TAA taking corners on the left so Robbo going to the right. Takes a while for them to switch back if the ball is cleared. Not seen last night's game yet (4.30am on a work night) but could be the sameI asked this in the ingame thread - asking again -
did it look like at one point in the first half that Robbo playing on the right and TAA on the left?
Also tenacityWell.... It's great to get that wake up call in a game we actually go on to win.
It's little pieces of luck like this that will help us become champions.
Agreeance. And all of @Billy Biskix ’s posts are top ones. Must reads!Top post mate. We give up too many chances and the space behind the full backs (TAA in particular) that the centre halves have to cover is leaving us exposed.
I would sit both gini and hendo to be honest. They both struggled badly tonightAnd yet, Jordan was the one who was putting in those good forward passes, though he had an off day with his defending. IF anyone is to sit out at hte weekend, it should have to be Gini. He seems to be in a middle of a three game rut, where he is middling through the games (his goal last match not withstanding).
Anyway, with Keita back in training, we now have a full compliment of midfielders, so Klopp can certainly mix and match at the weekend.
If teams are tied the Head to Head record vs each other is used to separate them. GD against each other does count in that head to head but only after points taken against each other first i.e. if we need a draw to remain level on points with them going into the last game then GD will not matter....
We should, and could have made a major dent in Salzburg’s ability to get out of this group, now they are in a decent position with that performance and a escaped with most of their goal difference intact.
I'm sorry, but once again people are talking about tiredness. The season isn't even two months in. What are they going to be like in March? The first team had a week off last week, so why are they tired now? It doesn't make any sense at all.
I was going to make reference to the Huddersfield game too. We were hanging on then against one of the worst PL teams ever. Yesterday reminded me of the end of that game although Chelsea are obviously a much better team and were always going to cause us problems particularly with Kante back.
Tiredness was a factor yesterday in the second half, mainly in midfield which is why we started dropping off. Klopp rarely rotates much early on so it's completely normal. We have to get off to a good start so he's going to stick with his strongest players for the first few games. From now on we'll start seeing some mild rotation. Shaqiri, Gomez, Keita and so on coming in for the odd game here and there. In previous seasons we've hit top gear and fitness around about Christmas when the fixtures are at their most intensive, then there are the winter camps which seem designed to re-condition us for the second half of the season. I do think that the high line we are playing now contributes to the tiredness because it's a very intense way to play but that's probably a discussion for another thread.
That massive space is shrunk when Allison plays. Good as Adrian has been he is unable to cover what Allison does. His absence, combined with the higher line exposes the space. I imagine that tactic of utilising VAR on offsides was conceived before our keeper was injured. Also, Matip had bedded into a slightly newer system and Gomez looked rusty last night.It was like being transported back to the early days of Klopp's reign. Sublime attacking play, ridiculous defending when you can't even relax and enjoy the game at 3-0 up because you know there's a chance we might blow it.
I don't think it was complacency tonight. Maybe for their first because we had started to showboat a bit at 3 up but second half we came out with intent and had obviously had a kick up the backside from JK. Trouble was we had come up against a team that exposed our vulnerability in defence and we couldn't do anything about it. That vulnerability has been there since the first game of the season. In fact this was Norwich again only with better quality players in attacking positions who can take their chances.
Last season I don't remember VVD breaking sweat. Now he's forever pelting back towards his own goal trying to cover a 2 against 2 or 2 against 1. We're so high up. There's masses of space for the CBs to cover. It is an exhausting way to play football and I don't think it's sustainable over a whole season unless there's more rotation. Too many of our players looked goosed tonight and tired players make mistakes, like continually conceding possession in dangerous areas.
Thank god for Milner. I was desperate for him to come on and bring some order to it all because some heads were going out there at that point. Origi was also a good sub. We rode out the last 20 comfortably enough and at least we won. A couple of seasons ago we wouldn't have. A big three points against a dangerous team so job done, but there were some warning signs tonight.
Happened a few years ago for King Kenny when he was back in the dugout. Think it was against utd when Kuyt got a hat trick.Was hoping Bobby would get one...
Can't imagine what it would be like hearing Anfield erupt into a round of "Happy Birthday"...
Dont if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure.Couldn't watch. Will grab highlights later.
Consider this: We've allowed just 5 goals against in 7 PL matches. These guys put 3 past us in 21 minutes at Anfield. What's the thesis? Is Matip that important? Were we just a bit leggy getting back defending?
Klopp eluded to this in his post-match presser.Couldn't watch. Will grab highlights later.
Consider this: We've allowed just 5 goals against in 7 PL matches. These guys put 3 past us in 21 minutes at Anfield. What's the thesis? Is Matip that important? Were we just a bit leggy getting back defending?
I made the point about rotation because the way we are playing this season is tiring, for both CBs but particularly for the midfielders. We are so high up that they have to keep pressure on the ball. If we relax at all and give quality players time they will just pick us off and exploit the spaces. If JK is going with Fabinho, Henderson and Gini every game and expects them to play like that then we're going to have to expect a drop off in intensity in the midfield occasionally and that leaves us exposed. If rest isn't an option then changing the way we are set up might be.That massive space is shrunk when Allison plays. Good as Adrian has been he is unable to cover what Allison does. His absence, combined with the higher line exposes the space. I imagine that tactic of utilising VAR on offsides was conceived before our keeper was injured. Also, Matip had bedded into a slightly newer system and Gomez looked rusty last night.
Regarding tiredness, well the squad isnt as expansive as Citys, so rest isnt a huge option.
The match on Saturday becomes huge again. Vardy produces a different challenge, his pace behind the line might mean Allison returns ahead of scheduled time.
Happened a few years ago for King Kenny when he was back in the dugout. Think it was against utd when Kuyt got a hat trick.
Happened a few years ago for King Kenny when he was back in the dugout. Think it was against utd when Kuyt got a hat trick.
Sounds just like another manager some of us may know........I don't know him personally but I've heard Jesse Marsch is a really nice chap off the pitch. I like the way he manages his sides. He's an intense sort that players seem to love playing for.