POST MATCH: Man City v Liverpool (EPL 3/1/19 8pm)

Man of the match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 18 11.7%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 6 3.9%
  • Lovren

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 52 33.8%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 47 30.5%
  • Milner [off 56’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Henderson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wijnaldum [off 85’]

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Mane [off 76’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Firmino [GOAL 64’]

    Votes: 14 9.1%
  • Salah

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fabinho [on 56’]

    Votes: 10 6.5%
  • Shaqiri [on 76’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sturridge [on 85’]

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Total voters
    154

BostonMick

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We should have put one hand on the league title tonight., City were there for the beating. We chose to play anti-football with that midfield and it cost us........then there is also LOVREN.
ok
so what would you have done differently?
Maybe he’s one of those guys who whack first and talk later...
"¿Plata... O Plomo?"
 

steveee

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I would have kept Milner and take Henderson out of the equation if we were to play Wijnaldum. They both are way too similar, with the exception that Henderson barks at people and Wijnaldum doesn't.
and that's why you're not the manager. Milner was the worst out of all 3 of them and why he was the first one taken off. Gini Hendo and Fab would of been our best midfield combination today if you stick with the 4 - 3 - 3 and not play Shaq. and since when is barking at people as the captain a bad thing? this is a very strange criticism of Henderson I have noticed by some. He should be doing that. he is the fucking captain. and at times they couldn't move the ball up to the front 3 because they were not moving standing around and was exactly what he was barking at... why would someone criticize that? Klopp was barking at same type of thing during the match as well
 

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No, Kompany thought he is entitled and can do whatever the fuck he wants because they've won league titles - and people think they are a big club. Those email exchanges are about money management, fuck all to do with football. Cruyff said bags money don't score goals. It's all good to bitch about the player's character, even his manager didn't come out defending him and said it was all down to the ref's decision. But you seemed to feel that it was the owners that created this nonsense.
They've won league titles because they're corrupt FFP abusers. It's enabled them to build the squad they have. So those e-mails have everything to do with football. All bank-rolled and endorsed by vile, disgusting human-rights-abusing cunts who have indeed created this nonsense.
 

indianaredman96

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Disappointed. This game was up for grabs. We were very poor 2nd half.
Ref was absolutely useless.
Stop blaming Lovren. He had a bad game, but so did milner, TAA, Robbo and bobbbbbby baring his goal.
We need to respond now. Come on reds. Let's go again.
Disagree with Robertson in that gang . Gave him MOTM
 

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I always err on the positive side when commenting on our players and hate the abusive stuff. However, I think Lovren deserves some of the flak he’s getting here. My main issue with him is how often he runs his mouth off then doesn’t deliver. I was cringing when he said we could finish the season unbeaten. It’s not the Liverpool way to talk like that. He needs to shut up, get off social media, and, when on the pitch, do whatever VVD tells him to do
Saw at the end where Lovren too the initiative to lob the ball direct to Van Dijk and our Dutch centre half told him off, asked him to send the ball to the side and let the wingers cross it in.
 

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Proud of the boys.

They almost got a good result against the national team of UAE/Abu Dhabi City, FC.

And how sweet would it be if we win the league and this disgusting dirty oil money club finally get their CL ban?

Heads up high lads, we go again.
 
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1 chance in a half oh steady on. We had no other shot on target till we scored 1 corner all night.
we had more shots on goal than man city
and they had 2 more shots than us in total
did both teams have a negative game plan? what am I missing?
and if man city at home at less shots on goal than us did they have a doubly negative game plan?
 

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A bummer to lose, but City put every ounce of effort into that game and won it by a short and curly. On another day Mane's ball bounces off of the post and in, and Sane's ball bounces off of the post and goes out. The Reds have a good run of games to get back on the bike.
 

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Saw at the end where Lovren too the initiative to lob the ball direct to Van Dijk and our Dutch centre half told him off, asked him to send the ball to the side and let the wingers cross it in.
Yeah because the ball went flying over his head. Klopp and VVD were yelling at home all night
 

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their limitations were on parade, but they've earned it

fabinho and keita should be itching to get out there v wolves
Why did people keep going on about Keita this Keita that it's crystal clear at the minute Klopp has no faith in him. 4 up against Arsenal doesn't get on. Chasing a goal tonight doesn't get on.
 

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Gutted. Not sure why we play on the back foot instead of the front? WE are the TOP team in the league and we play Milly Hendo and Gini. Everyone knows they cant play positive football. They break up play yes but do they attack? Milner maybe. Gini cant shoot and Henderson after his great last few games went back to sideways and backwards. We bought Fabinho, Keita and Shaq. Benched them all for the midfield who couldnt get it over the line for the last 2 seasons....

Robertson and Virgil solid as a rock. Robbo man of the match for me. Trent and Lovren getting exposed from the first whistle on. Hard to watch

Still will never understand why we played 3 DMs today. City plays with fernandinho only. No wonder our possession is so low. Counter attacking quality teams isnt gonna work. Offense first when we have the players to accomodate it
 

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we had more shots on goal than man city
and they had 2 more shots than us in total
did both teams have a negative game plan? what am I missing?
and if man city at home at less shots on goal than us did they have a doubly negative game plan?
I couldn't give a shit about City's game plan. We lined up to frustrate them like Pep did at Anfield once they scored that was out of the window.
 

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Think in City's shoes, in the cold light of day, three points more than LFC over two games is only really significant if you pull ahead of your main rival thereby. They've used up the six pointer games with us being 4 pts in front. Not really very reassuring, is it?
 

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ok
so what would you have done differently?

"¿Plata... O Plomo?"
Fabinho MUST start,. If you want to frustrate City and still be attacking, start Fab and Henderson and tell Henderson to sit with Fab for the first 60 minutes. Play Naby as well as he should be fully fit. Naby supports the front three all game as well as tracks back to help defend. What you do not do and this is hindsight is to play midfield that stunk up the place at Napoli and now couldn't play a forward pass at City in the first half. The midfield was so bad that another manager would have subbed 2 /3 at half time.
 

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One of the best games I have seen, proved there is not much between the 2 teams.

Not happy with the loss, but not worried because of the manner in which it happend.
Lovren and Allison might have done better on the goal, but that is Aguero, that is what makes him so leathal.

The only player who was completely at sea was TAA. Sane had the better of him all day long, and with Aguero doubling up on him, he was targeted. He is young and he will bounce back.

Robbo was my clear MOTM. Sterling in the pocket, great assist.
I am so happy to read your post and that of many, many other rational human beings here. As a relatively new guy on the forum, I was scared shitless when I read the many 'teenager-rants' here during half time, that I was beginning to wonder if TIA was like the Red Cafe or a Newcastle forum, if results go against Liverpool. To have adults behaving like imbeciles really puts me off. I can only hope that there has been a lot of alcohol involved.

As for individual players, although I think we played a very good game and that we would have beaten most teams with this performance, I too saw that TAA struggled a bit. But he was not alone, Salah also could not really handle the tempo City put out I thought, and we had other issues in midfield. Sometimes you have to hold your hands up and admit that the opposition is damnably strong. As for all the criticism Lovren gets, I think we all know that he is not the strongest defender in the world, but he puts in a shift and does his very best. He is professional and I marvel at some of the vile hate he gets for doing his best.
People must remember that we are still in a very, very strong position. We still have a very good shot at the league, but Manchester City is a worthy rival, and only a fool would claim otherwise.
 

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I agree with everything you say here. This game could have gone either way tbh, it was a tough match. If we get one chance, we need to take it and be more clinical. Maybe, just maybe, Fabinho should have started over Milner and If Kompany was red carded, it might have changed the game.

We need to get back on track and we need to show a severe reaction to the rest of our opponents. We have to have a steely mentality to claw our way back up one we are a goal down. Sometimes, it was not in our destiny to win a game and tonight was it. Hopefully, we won't see to much of these type of matches.

With regards to Man City, they are beatable and I think their sternest test will be in the Champions league.
My biggest fear before this game was that we might be found out. That City might give us the runaround and we'd be conclusively second best. If we were going to lose I'd want it to be a narrow defeat and for us to have played well. That's how it panned out. We had the luck at Anfield with the missed Mahrez penalty and they had the luck tonight. That's football.

They are a fantastic team but they showed us a huge amount of respect. I was shocked when they scored because I didn't see it coming. We were comfortable at that point but there are a few pockets of ordinariness in the squad and Lovren is one of those unfortunately. It's not his fault, he does his best but you can't give Aguero that amount of time and not expect to be punished.

On team selection I trust Klopp. We are top of the league because of him, not in spite of him. One more half turn of the ball on the Stones clearance and we take the lead and have City right where we want them, needing to come on to us and we can hit them on the counter. We've had a few breaks this season but that was pure bad luck. We certainly didn't look like a team that had lucked its way to the top of the table. We were more than a match for City tonight and we can draw confidence from that performance even though the result hasn't gone our way.
 

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Fabinho MUST start,. If you want to frustrate City and still be attacking, start Fab and Henderson and tell Henderson to sit with Fab for the first 60 minutes. Play Naby as well as he should be fully fit. Naby supports the front three all game as well as tracks back to help defend. What you do not do and this is hindsight is to play midfield that stunk up the place at Napoli and now couldn't play a forward pass at City in the first half. The midfield was so bad that another manager would have subbed 2 /3 at half time.
Fabinho has a tendency to give the ball away too cheaply, often in dangerous positions. Too risky to play him from the start.
 

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Very little in it to be fair, 11mm I suppose, I thought Trent struggled at times, lovren a bit panicky and has to take some blame for first goal, Milner started ok but faded away strange a half fit Milner starts before Fabinho, mane and salah a bit off tonight, but it's not the end of the world, we are 4 points clear and a bit of a break from pl now so some fringe players can play cup game.
 

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A midfield trio of Gini/Hendo/Milner will only give you square passes and puts constant pressure on the back line.. Not sure why Klopp resorted to this formation as all we could manage was a 1-1 with Chelsea after Sturridge's miracle goal and I guess a defeat to Napoli with that formation. Why try to fix something which is not broken. You atleast need one creative player in the middle to dictate play offensively. Fab/Shaq should have definetly started instead of Milner/Hendo. When all 3 starts together all the 3 tends to perform mediocre and we fall flat. You never start a game with this midfield trio and use them when you are 2-0 up against stronger sides. Definitely the starting lineup was negative.
 

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Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp, speaking to Sky Sports: "It was a big pressure. Very intense game. We were unlucky in our finishing moments. Unluckier than City I would say. Sane scores and the situation with Sadio when he hit the post. They had periods where they dominated the game and everybody felt the intensity. But we came back and had big chances. It is always like this. You have to score in those moments. When Aguero scores there is no angle. In similar situations we didn't score.

"It was not our or City's best game because we both made it difficult for the other team. I have already said to the boys this is OK. We lost it but it will happen. Tonight it is not nice but it is not the biggest problem.

"I really like Vincent Kompany but how on Earth is that not a red card? He is last man and he goes in. If he hits Mo [Salah] more he is out for the season. It is not easy for the ref and he may not see it how I see it.

"Our expectations are high. We can play better. On the other side it was an intense game. You have to take the game how it is. You can't always dominate it. With a bit more luck we could have got 2-2, which would be perfect for us."
My one problem with JK right here. Any criticism is always qualified with some un-necessary guff like how he really likes Kompany or how it's not easy for the ref.
Straight red card, manc referee looking right at it from 5 yards away, just say it like it is and leave the shite out.
 

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A tight game. We didn't get the rub of the green.
On the night the better team won.
We were too timid. Too much jockeying not enough tackling. Too much pointless sideways short passing. Too much respect.Not enough devil.
But all that said we still could have won. So let's go on and take the Premiership off them !
 

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My takes from the match-

When is Gomez back? Tomorrow? Can’t come soon enough. Lovren was shockingly bad.

We’ve had our share of luck this season and it just wasn’t our night. Only 1.2 cm further needed for a goal sums it up.

Love Fabinho. More impressed with him every time he plays and wish he started this game.

We’ll show what we’re made of moving on after tonight but I have all the faith in this team. 4 points ahead! YNWA
 

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Taylor will be tucked up in bed now I imagine after a short stroll home, just hope the Kompany non red card isn't the 2019 equivalent of the Eto'o 2013 non red card.
 

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On the bright side , The only positive I see is that maybe......, just maybe, Klopp has now got to realize that the shit that is Milner/Hendo /Gini midfield is not what will win us the title .
 

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My biggest fear before this game was that we might be found out. That City might give us the runaround and we'd be conclusively second best. If we were going to lose I'd want it to be a narrow defeat and for us to have played well. That's how it panned out. We had the luck at Anfield with the missed Mahrez penalty and they had the luck tonight. That's football.

They are a fantastic team but they showed us a huge amount of respect. I was shocked when they scored because I didn't see it coming. We were comfortable at that point but there are a few pockets of ordinariness in the squad and Lovren is one of those unfortunately. It's not his fault, he does his best but you can't give Aguero that amount of time and not expect to be punished.

On team selection I trust Klopp. We are top of the league because of him, not in spite of him. One more half turn of the ball on the Stones clearance and we take the lead and have City right where we want them, needing to come on to us and we can hit them on the counter. We've had a few breaks this season but that was pure bad luck. We certainly didn't look like a team that had lucked its way to the top of the table. We were more than a match for City tonight and we can draw confidence from that performance even though the result hasn't gone our way.
Alot of the sport journalists including Honigstein feel that Lovren is the weakest link in the team. I also don't think the next games will be a walk in the park. Every game is tough in the EPL. We cannot afford to make any more mistakes, we need to be bolder, hungrier and more mentally tougher when our backs were against the wall.
Lets see what is in store for us next.
 

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The better team won, but I wonder if they would have if we'd started with a different midfield? Fabhino has to start every league and CL game from now on and I think Henderson should be the one to make way.
Too many players were overawed by the occasion and just didn't compete.
I know this a knee jerk reaction but there are some players from the starting lineup that I would drop for the next game or two to see if it has a positive effect on them. Obviously Lovren would be top of that list.
Being positive, we're still four points clear and have played most our games against the rest of the top six. We can still afford a few draws so long as our rivals also take points of each other.