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Post match: MK Dons v Liverpool (LC 25/9/19 7.45pm)

Man of the match

  • Kelleher

    Votes: 29 28.4%
  • Hoever [GOAL 69’, off 90+1’]

    Votes: 14 13.7%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Lovren

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • Milner [GOAL 41’]

    Votes: 71 69.6%
  • Lallana

    Votes: 4 3.9%
  • Oxlade-Chamberlain [off 82’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Keita [off 63’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Elliot

    Votes: 64 62.7%
  • Brewster

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Jones

    Votes: 18 17.6%
  • Chirivella [on 63’]

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Kane [on 82’]

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Van den Berg [on 90+1’]

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    102
  • Poll closed .


Zinedine Biscan

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Says a lot about some of the performances last night, that even though I thought he played really well, I didn't have a vote spare for Jones. Same for Hoever, despite his excellent headed goal.

Elliott was fantastic, Milner too, while in the last stretch Kelleher was pulling off some fantastic saves to not only keep us in the game but preserve the clean sheet on his debut for the club.

Brewster had a quiet night, which was the main disappointment for me, otherwise positives all around. We have a very exciting crop of youngsters about to break through, exciting times.
 

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I'd like that too. I just hope that we keep playing the kids regardless of who we're drawn against. Arsenal at home will be a tough one if we field the same team but it really doesn't matter what happens in this competition and the experience for the younger lads is invaluable.
Probably it will have to be a mix again between youth and experience. Against lower opposition like MK Dons, the kind of mix we had yesterday night was ok. Not sure it would be enough against Arsenal. But maybe the clubs will agree on playing young sides each against other, which would be the best course of action, given the packed schedule for both clubs.
 

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Probably it will have to be a mix again between youth and experience. Against lower opposition like MK Dons, the kind of mix we had yesterday night was ok. Not sure it would be enough against Arsenal. But maybe the clubs will agree on playing young sides each against other, which would be the best course of action, given the packed schedule for both clubs.
I think we play the same side again. We can’t risk the league and Europe campaigns trying to stay in the league cup.

If Arsenal knock us out so be it. But the lads who sat out last night I want nowhere near it.
 

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I think we play the same side again. We can’t risk the league and Europe campaigns trying to stay in the league cup.

If Arsenal knock us out so be it. But the lads who sat out last night I want nowhere near it.
We play the players who need the games ad hoc as that becomes clearer in the days before the game. Shaqiri and Origi or even Alisson later on in the next round hopefully.
 



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We play the players who need the games ad hoc as that becomes clearer in the days before the game. Shaqiri and Origi or even Alisson later on in the next round hopefully.
I would not be surprised if we see Becker back in goal after this weekend.

Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson Becker feels he is "nearly there" as he continues his recovery from the calf injury he sustained on the opening day of the season.
 

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The injuries we have at the moment made last night's team more inexperienced than it would have been intended to be.

Throw Adrian in goal, and Origi and Shaq in the front three against Arsenal and suddenly there are hardly any youngsters, just a decent second xi team which would be favourites at home to Arsenal.

With the next round being at home there also won't be any travel issues to consider, so wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of stronger players on the bench e.g. Salah, Firmino, similarly to the home tie last year vs Chelsea (although personally I'd still leave them out altogether).
 

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I think we play the same side again. We can’t risk the league and Europe campaigns trying to stay in the league cup.

If Arsenal knock us out so be it. But the lads who sat out last night I want nowhere near it.
Origi and hopefully Shaqiri will be back, which will make us stronger. Adrian might start the game too, especially as Allisson is due to come back soon (fingers crossed!). So, we'll maybe be able to line up a stronger side without playing too many of the first team regulars.
 

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I just enjoyed watching a Liverpool game where I wasn't too fussed about the outcome. The tension in league games is fucking unbearable at times so it made a change to be so relaxed about it all. MK Dons did well and probably paid us a bit too much respect. Once they went for it they caused us plenty of problems and had some good chances.

We were OK and there were some decent individual performances but it was mainly about gaining experience for the younger lads and getting minutes into the legs of fringe first teamers and those coming back from injury. What really stands out from previous years is how few (any?) genuine 'stiffs' there are in our squad now. Every first teamer will make a valuable contribution this season. No deadwood at all.

Of the younger lads, Hoever is a star in the making. Unusual to see that sort of goal from a right back. He will be a good utility first teamer from next season. Elliott was also very good and looks a talent. Very disciplined in possession, as were the rest of the team. A sign of how well coached they are. Milner was my man of the match. Totally committed from start to finish. There is no better example for these young lads to be following.
 



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Just watched the highlights. Generally, I'm supportive of Lovren and wouldn't want to get too negative on him in his first match back. Just saying with a smile on my face because we won that even for him that was "unfortunate." The ass slide definitely deserves a gif. Then he gets up, dawdles about, then suddenly realizes the play remains live and tries to defend the fellow who ultimately put it over the crossbar....and he's late. That one ought to keep him humble for a while.
Might look ridiculous in the highlights, but Lovren was one of the best on the pitch. I am happy to report that all of our veterans played very well, with the exception of Oxlaide who just played okay (he is sadly not yet match fit, so this was one of those games he needs). Milner MotM clearly by a wide margin, but Lovren was certainly one of our best.
 

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Might look ridiculous in the highlights, but Lovren was one of the best on the pitch. I am happy to report that all of our veterans played very well, with the exception of Oxlaide who just played okay (he is sadly not yet match fit, so this was one of those games he needs). Milner MotM clearly by a wide margin, but Lovren was certainly one of our best.
Hmm. Not sure about that, Magnus. I thought the extent to which League One forwards were able to make him shit the bed was a cause for concern.
 



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Probably it will have to be a mix again between youth and experience. Against lower opposition like MK Dons, the kind of mix we had yesterday night was ok. Not sure it would be enough against Arsenal. But maybe the clubs will agree on playing young sides each against other, which would be the best course of action, given the packed schedule for both clubs.
We have a Sunday game versus Spurs before the Tuesday match against Arsenal - they also play Sunday, but against Palace. Going again just over 48 hours later is not a great idea.
 

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Might look ridiculous in the highlights, but Lovren was one of the best on the pitch. I am happy to report that all of our veterans played very well, with the exception of Oxlaide who just played okay (he is sadly not yet match fit, so this was one of those games he needs). Milner MotM clearly by a wide margin, but Lovren was certainly one of our best.
He made two errors that could easily have been converted to two goals, both were excellent chances.

It was actually a jarring feeling to realize the only player in that side who was making me nervous on the ball was not one of the kids, but one of the most senior players on the pitch. To be fair, he finished strong, his last 10 minutes were by far his best 10 minute interval of the match.
 

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Can't really criticise anyone for that performance - it was a lot more coherent than I expected as we often see these "second teams" cobbled together struggle to show any sort of fluidity. MK Dons were helpful in that they really didn't pressure us.

I gave man of the match to Jones, Kelleher and Elliott. In reality Milner was probably the best player, certainly the most effective, but I expected that of him to be honest.

Kelleher: Really solid performance, better than I've seen play at youth level to be honest. The save from the header towards the end of the game was easier than I thought at first because it was straight at him but the key was that he saved it and got it away.

Hoever: Looks to be more switched on at 1st team level, in the U23s he tries to be a bit too intricate and has been caught several times (he did the same thing last season for the U18s). Composed and confident performance, nothing much to test him. Good header and really liked the aggression he showed to attack the box to reach it. Needs to see better end product in terms of his delivery into the box.

Gomez: Supremely composed, never looks shaken and made it all look easy. The chances MK did create were nothing to do with him. Hopefully he stays fit all season as he could provide a real challenge for Matip on this form.

Lovren: Not his best performance but he isn't a guy who likes to dropped in cold and especially into a team he isn't used to. Made a couple of errors but nothing outrageously bad. Certainly behind Gomez in the pecking order.

Milner: I would describe his performance as effective, rather than classy. Brute force brought his goal and all night he chugged up and down the left hand side providing a decent outlet. Great cross from the 2nd goal.

Oxlade-Chamberlain: Fairly quiet but he showed some glimpses of the quality we know he has. Strong in challenge and turned away from any pressure he faced really easily. I remember at one point in the first half he had a player all over his back; he fought him off and played a raking pass out to Milner at LB. He's on the right path.

Lallana: Solid enough, didn't have a huge amount to do which is good as I wouldn't want him in the 6 role against opponents who could cause a consistent threat. Given his lack of game time in that role I thought he did OK in keeping the ball moving.

Keita: I'm not as down on Naby's performance as other people have been. He carries the ball so quickly and decisively at times, it is a pleasure to watch. He was neat and tidy and advanced us into the attacking third often in the first half. Of course we expect to see more in time but I thought it was fine for his game of the season.

Elliott: Really impressive performance by him; best moment was the clip to the back post weighted perfectly for Milner. Like most of our young players he is full of self confidence and never afraid to try something outrageous. Missed a sitter but didn't affect his play at all. Unlucky to hit the bar a second time late in the game, I was sure he was just going to guide it into the top corner.

Jones: I thought he was outstanding on the night. Similar to Elliott he is infectiously self confident, always wanted the ball, always has an idea of what he wants to do when he gets it. Had a good effort on goal saved and created a few other opportunities. He has been much improved at U23 level this season and he carried that over.

Brewster: Took him a while to get into the game and was fairly quiet throughout. Wasn't helped by the fact he was up against three CBs. On another night he could have had a goal and one or two assists but he couldn't quite reach the cross to poke it in and his crosses (mainly to Jones) were always just an inch or two too heavy. Brewster won't ever be the kind of player to dominate a whole game but he will always be a threat.

Chirivella: Not necessarily his fault but I thought we lost a lot of our shape after he came on. On a personal level he didn't have a bad game; neat and tidy in possession and he has a lot more athleticism to him than he did when he made his PL debut at Swansea all those years ago. No future at Liverpool for him but getting on the pitch might remind clubs he exists.

Kane: Should have come on earlier in my opinion, I am not sure why he has been kept at the club if all he gets is 10 minutes in the Carabao Cup. He was the best midfielder in League One last season and yet restricted to a few minutes against a bottom half League One club. Showed he has some intelligent running ability when he broke the lines towards the end of the game, unfortunately no one went with him so the chance collapsed.

Van Den Berg: Only played about two minutes and came on out of position so not much to say.
 

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I liked the game yesterday, although we didn't win as easily as I would have liked. Not a big though, playing our 3rd side.

Kelleher looks very confident, and had a couple of great saves. Hopefully him or Grabara makes it to be number 1 for us.
Hoever, such a big talent, playing RB and CB, and looking like an inexperienced Trent.
Lovren, I like Lovren despite his shortcomings, but he seemed uninterested and careless last night. Gomez was on the other hand much more focused.
Elliot, just wow, can't believe that this lad is 16 yo! He got it all, and I can see him in the first team squad sooner than later. A perfect Salah replacement once he gets more experience. The same about Jones, the Scouse Mane.
Brewster was unlucky a bit and seemed to be invisible, but so is Firmino, his work rate gets evident once he manages to conjure a dangerous chance/attack.

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We have a Sunday game versus Spurs before the Tuesday match against Arsenal - they also play Sunday, but against Palace. Going again just over 48 hours later is not a great idea.
I'm pretty sure 29/10 is provisional whilst they decide on televised games. Makes no sense to play on Tuesday 48 hours after both teams play in the PL and when their next game after that is on the Saturday. I would imagine it'll be played on the 30th.
 



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We have a Sunday game versus Spurs before the Tuesday match against Arsenal - they also play Sunday, but against Palace. Going again just over 48 hours later is not a great idea.
So everything points towards both teams using youth players. Perfect!

Edit: or the game is postponed as BB writes above.
 

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I'm pretty sure 29/10 is provisional whilst they decide on televised games. Makes no sense to play on Tuesday 48 hours after both teams play in the PL and when their next game after that is on the Saturday. I would imagine it'll be played on the 30th.
I rather hope so, but your 'makes no sense' doesn't fill me with a lot of that hope.
 

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It was an okay performance. Defensively not quite compact enough, but that's understandable given the changes. Offensively a bit slow, not enough offers off the ball, which ended up putting in a lot of crosses. We were dangerous once we got to the goal line though, our left side provided some neat combinations in small spaces.

Kelleher was good. You could sense immediately what Pep said about him calmness once he went for that ball with his hands only inches inside our box. He's really relaxed.

Hoever's touches and passes let him down for his "usual" standard I feel. Good goal, but nothing special other than that. He's still a CBish type of full back in overall development, so we shouldn't look at him expecting another Trent anyway.

Gomez showed some good pace and getting rid of opponents. One mistake aside in the second half, he was neat and tidy.

Lovren's first two actions had me almost on the floor. The world's top 5 CB raised his hands at our first offside attempt when he was 3 metres behind the rest of our back line. Lost a challenge which then led to their player missing a great chance. Took him a while to get in the game, he was better second half when he blocked some crosses.

Milner one of our best players on the pitch. Just that rhythm that Klopp mentioned, he was involved in a lot of things.

Lallana was okay, a few lost balls aside when he tried to be too clever.

Chamberlain showed good energy, a few heavy touches aside, but some nice switches of play and a great shot which the keeper saved helped by the post.

Keita was a decent in my book, a bit shy, but certainly not bad. He does needless tricks sometimes, but you could sense that he decided to play a more simple pass & move game last night. And he's one of our best players doing that. The simple stuff which people underrate, he executes it really well. I guess the plan was always to play him for an hour. Nice to have him back, offers something different, should be on the bench in the next game.

Elliott probably our MOTM. Brave, neat in his ball manipulation, unlucky not to score. Should've scored the first chance, did well in his second with his weaker foot when he played more off the left. Looking more and more like a nice prospect. Puts things into perspective when we talk about a Harry Wilson who is 6 years older. Some will do it quicker, some need more time.

Jones I liked his defensive work last night. He wasn't too relaxed having people like Millie and Naby behind him, still got involved. Nice combinations, his game went up a gear in the second half I thought when he lurked around their box. He can really carry the ball well, the next mission is to add end product and find that consistency in his development.

Brewster did okay, wasn't easy for him as I felt he was also isolated. Our wide men didn't really attack the inside off the ball enough, which is what our first team choices do. He tried to do a Bobby job and did it well enough, considering he always had at least 1 player on his back. There were a couple of times when he had space to run into as a 3rd man, that's what he likes to do, so do it kiddo.

Chirivella was good when he came on, nice tackle, some crisp passes. He has that automatism on the ball playing as a holder without his overall quality being high enough.

Kane didn't get much game time but looked too slow and heavy for our game.
 

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Can't really criticise anyone for that performance - it was a lot more coherent than I expected as we often see these "second teams" cobbled together struggle to show any sort of fluidity. MK Dons were helpful in that they really didn't pressure us.

I gave man of the match to Jones, Kelleher and Elliott. In reality Milner was probably the best player, certainly the most effective, but I expected that of him to be honest.

Kelleher: Really solid performance, better than I've seen play at youth level to be honest. The save from the header towards the end of the game was easier than I thought at first because it was straight at him but the key was that he saved it and got it away.

Hoever: Looks to be more switched on at 1st team level, in the U23s he tries to be a bit too intricate and has been caught several times (he did the same thing last season for the U18s). Composed and confident performance, nothing much to test him. Good header and really liked the aggression he showed to attack the box to reach it. Needs to see better end product in terms of his delivery into the box.

Gomez: Supremely composed, never looks shaken and made it all look easy. The chances MK did create were nothing to do with him. Hopefully he stays fit all season as he could provide a real challenge for Matip on this form.

Lovren: Not his best performance but he isn't a guy who likes to dropped in cold and especially into a team he isn't used to. Made a couple of errors but nothing outrageously bad. Certainly behind Gomez in the pecking order.

Milner: I would describe his performance as effective, rather than classy. Brute force brought his goal and all night he chugged up and down the left hand side providing a decent outlet. Great cross from the 2nd goal.

Oxlade-Chamberlain: Fairly quiet but he showed some glimpses of the quality we know he has. Strong in challenge and turned away from any pressure he faced really easily. I remember at one point in the first half he had a player all over his back; he fought him off and played a raking pass out to Milner at LB. He's on the right path.

Lallana: Solid enough, didn't have a huge amount to do which is good as I wouldn't want him in the 6 role against opponents who could cause a consistent threat. Given his lack of game time in that role I thought he did OK in keeping the ball moving.

Keita: I'm not as down on Naby's performance as other people have been. He carries the ball so quickly and decisively at times, it is a pleasure to watch. He was neat and tidy and advanced us into the attacking third often in the first half. Of course we expect to see more in time but I thought it was fine for his game of the season.

Elliott: Really impressive performance by him; best moment was the clip to the back post weighted perfectly for Milner. Like most of our young players he is full of self confidence and never afraid to try something outrageous. Missed a sitter but didn't affect his play at all. Unlucky to hit the bar a second time late in the game, I was sure he was just going to guide it into the top corner.

Jones: I thought he was outstanding on the night. Similar to Elliott he is infectiously self confident, always wanted the ball, always has an idea of what he wants to do when he gets it. Had a good effort on goal saved and created a few other opportunities. He has been much improved at U23 level this season and he carried that over.

Brewster: Took him a while to get into the game and was fairly quiet throughout. Wasn't helped by the fact he was up against three CBs. On another night he could have had a goal and one or two assists but he couldn't quite reach the cross to poke it in and his crosses (mainly to Jones) were always just an inch or two too heavy. Brewster won't ever be the kind of player to dominate a whole game but he will always be a threat.

Chirivella: Not necessarily his fault but I thought we lost a lot of our shape after he came on. On a personal level he didn't have a bad game; neat and tidy in possession and he has a lot more athleticism to him than he did when he made his PL debut at Swansea all those years ago. No future at Liverpool for him but getting on the pitch might remind clubs he exists.

Kane: Should have come on earlier in my opinion, I am not sure why he has been kept at the club if all he gets is 10 minutes in the Carabao Cup. He was the best midfielder in League One last season and yet restricted to a few minutes against a bottom half League One club. Showed he has some intelligent running ability when he broke the lines towards the end of the game, unfortunately no one went with him so the chance collapsed.

Van Den Berg: Only played about two minutes and came on out of position so not much to say.
Excellent this. Great analysis.
 



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delighted with our young players getting valuable game time and the result. hope they will be used again to get more experience. , I admit that I am jealous (in a nice sort of way) of them all especially Elliot. getting to pull on the jersey, and play for the first team in a cup game. Only in my dreams did I ever manage that !