Post Match: Napoli v Liverpool (UCL 3/10/2018 8pm)
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Pretty poor that. Fullbacks were not up to it somehow; TAA got played around and through a little too often although as mentioned he had a job with not much protection in front of him, Robertson looked unusually edgy and uncomfortable and hoofed away when he had more space than he thought. Didn't help that it kept coming back, though. Both were just poor on the ball in general as well.
The midfield shrank away and the front three couldn't hold on to the ball which is a bad combo. Can't create or defend properly when that's going to happen and but for the CB's, Allison and Napoli being a good, but not great team the result would have been been confirmed sooner.
That said, while Napoli are not great they do have a fantastic manager and he set up brilliantly. Our manager does the same and we regularly make the better teams look like shit. It happens; this is no pub league so nobody should be losing their heads because of a loss away against a good team with a great manager on a bobbly pitch that the opposition are more in tune with.
Chin up, put in the yards in training and in the next game and on we go.
The midfield shrank away and the front three couldn't hold on to the ball which is a bad combo. Can't create or defend properly when that's going to happen and but for the CB's, Allison and Napoli being a good, but not great team the result would have been been confirmed sooner.
That said, while Napoli are not great they do have a fantastic manager and he set up brilliantly. Our manager does the same and we regularly make the better teams look like shit. It happens; this is no pub league so nobody should be losing their heads because of a loss away against a good team with a great manager on a bobbly pitch that the opposition are more in tune with.
Chin up, put in the yards in training and in the next game and on we go.
First game we were really poor, deserved to lose. It probably "had" to happen some time in this hectic month. Nowhere near our level, too far from the opponent, no pressing (which it seemed like it was our plan, but like Klopp said not long ago, our defensive game when we go back to a zone is still not good enough, especially against sides like Chelsea and Napoli), poor build up and creativity. Napoli were also nothing special in the first half and I expected a reaction from us after the break, but it was nowhere to be seen and they only got better from that point on. Looking at average positions, they played more like 3 at the back, Maksimovic not really going forward from RB, but tucking in to allow Rui to push up and attack the space which can be too big at times for us (especially if the midfield doesn't help and I thought the only player who could held his head high was Gomez), the one between Salah and Trent. Maybe it was also one of those games when Klopp waited a bit too long to make subs (I don't often criticize him for this, but last night there was really nothing from our players). Fill up the midfield, at times have a cage of 4 midfielders which with the full backs made it 6 against our 11 who were not compact enough and scattered all over the place. Overall, they were better than us in things we usually do. Pitch was also absolutely horrendous, what the hell was that? I know their stadium (actual stands) is a ruin, but being a side that proud themselves on the best football in Italy, I'd expect a much better surface. Hopefully this doesn't leave a mark for Sunday because it was not a good game, we made it extra wild for ourselves and kept chasing the ball around without any effect.
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We need to stop babying the daunted front three ( best attack in football) . They are suffering from big heads and limelight lust. Salah and Mane only want to score goals for themselves as I see it. Bobby is just not sharp. Yes they need supply but it becoming easy to defend us when we are relying on speed as a weapon. What does Studge have to do to break into the starting eleven? (cant believe I am saying that ). Very frustrated that the midfield is taking so much crap when the front three are just not electric like last year. Yes it is early , but this is not last year . the team finally has a great CB pairing and a world class keeper,(cant believe I am saying that) and now we have no firepower.
The morning after...
Still disappointed today - more because of the poor performance than the result. Klopp seems to be taking full responsibility but I'm wondering whether that is because he thinks he got his match tactics wrong or because the players were tied and needed more rotation? For once, maybe the international break can't come soon enough.
On the plus side, the result isn't the end of the world even if we are making life difficult for ourselves. Also Keita isn't seriously injured. I'm wondering what it was - a trapped nerve, maybe? I damaged my coccyx years ago and this can occasionally cause extreme pain with no apparent trigger.
As for the weekend, I think the midfield needs an injection of fresh legs. In fact I can't help but think that something has been missing in the middle since the Ox was injured.
Still disappointed today - more because of the poor performance than the result. Klopp seems to be taking full responsibility but I'm wondering whether that is because he thinks he got his match tactics wrong or because the players were tied and needed more rotation? For once, maybe the international break can't come soon enough.
On the plus side, the result isn't the end of the world even if we are making life difficult for ourselves. Also Keita isn't seriously injured. I'm wondering what it was - a trapped nerve, maybe? I damaged my coccyx years ago and this can occasionally cause extreme pain with no apparent trigger.
As for the weekend, I think the midfield needs an injection of fresh legs. In fact I can't help but think that something has been missing in the middle since the Ox was injured.
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What's the point in finally having a deep squad if you aren't going to utilize it? Some of the guys last night looked beyond tired. Which is worrying given the season has only just started.
Sorry disagree entirely on that. Klopp should have tried something else in the middle of the park. They had 5 v 3 all night and were running amuck through there all game. It wasn't until the 75th minute he made a change.
Sorry disagree entirely on that. Klopp should have tried something else in the middle of the park. They had 5 v 3 all night and were running amuck through there all game. It wasn't until the 75th minute he made a change.
You don't find it at least a little concerning that our midfield has looked toothless all season and that every single one of our potent front 3 look completely and utterly out of sorts? Or that we haven't won in 3 (could very likely be 4) games and we went 90 minutes in the CL without a single shot on target?
Like everyone else, I am also sick to my stomach and am angry as hell.
But what is all this shit about Napoli deserving to win. Fuck that, we deserved a draw I says. How many times did we completely dominate teams last season only to lose because the other team got a goal on the few chances they may have had.
So, no Napoli didn’t deserve a win. Draw was ours but we fucked the pooch in the 89 th minute. I want to vomit.
But what is all this shit about Napoli deserving to win. Fuck that, we deserved a draw I says. How many times did we completely dominate teams last season only to lose because the other team got a goal on the few chances they may have had.
So, no Napoli didn’t deserve a win. Draw was ours but we fucked the pooch in the 89 th minute. I want to vomit.
Im guessing it is a tongue in cheek comment.
You only quote a section of my post and maybe in my drunken emotional state i didnt explain myself.
To clarify, for 20 minutes until injured, Keita, who has been signed because he is seen as a more technical player and an upgrade on our regular berated midfield 3,was one of our worst performers, turning over possession regularly and in dangerous positions.
But as i said, the comment was most likely tongue in cheek and you know this already.....
In generally we had too many players off the pace. Irrelevant of who they were its a team game. If our midfield has been pulled all over the pitch, it is not necessarily their fault but a fault of the team.
You only quote a section of my post and maybe in my drunken emotional state i didnt explain myself.
To clarify, for 20 minutes until injured, Keita, who has been signed because he is seen as a more technical player and an upgrade on our regular berated midfield 3,was one of our worst performers, turning over possession regularly and in dangerous positions.
But as i said, the comment was most likely tongue in cheek and you know this already.....
In generally we had too many players off the pace. Irrelevant of who they were its a team game. If our midfield has been pulled all over the pitch, it is not necessarily their fault but a fault of the team.
Well now, this is surprising....
Klopp points out Liverpool’s behind-the-scenes problems from Napoli defeat
Klopp points out Liverpool’s behind-the-scenes problems from Napoli defeat
I disagree with this. Is it common knowledge he was suffering from a back injury beforehand? If so why hasnt Keita come forward and say he is struggling/why has klopp risked him.
In the end my comment wasnt aimed at singling Keita out, he excites me as a player. My point was that a lot of people were pinning our performance on the usual characters.
In my opinion, it was just a bad day. The midfield 3 who ever they were would have struggled. Like Klopp said we were poor in our defensive movement.
I just hope its a reality check and we use it to our benefit
In the end my comment wasnt aimed at singling Keita out, he excites me as a player. My point was that a lot of people were pinning our performance on the usual characters.
In my opinion, it was just a bad day. The midfield 3 who ever they were would have struggled. Like Klopp said we were poor in our defensive movement.
I just hope its a reality check and we use it to our benefit
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Sounds like the sort of shithousery that was commonplace when we first started competing in Europe in the sixties.
We should do everything within our powers to make their stay in Liverpool as unpleasant and awkward as possible. But we wont, we'll bend over backwards to accommodate them, because we're Liverpool.
We should do everything within our powers to make their stay in Liverpool as unpleasant and awkward as possible. But we wont, we'll bend over backwards to accommodate them, because we're Liverpool.
