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- May 18, 2008
Bit weird but Firmino and Keita seem to really not play well together. When Firmino came on Keita was unleashed and was our biggest threat.I think he was tired after doing what Kieta and Lallana were on the field to do. When you add to that he was offering next to nothing going forward it was well worth a punt.
Even Salah looked like he was working his socks off defensively and Mané must have beaten his record for tyhe number of times he went round the pitch trying to help out the attack and defense.
Yes, that was particularly frustrating. I said in the match thread that by about 30mins on at least two occasions he had received the ball, Cruyf turned his way into trouble and lost the ball, when just taking a simple touch and setting off in the direction he was already facing would have retained possession.Most enduring memory of last night's game ; Lallana doing a Cruyf turn every single fucking time he received the ball. Did my fucking head in.
Forget about being just irritated about the actual incidents. Klopp mentioned the incidents whilst shaking hands with him which personally i find in poor taste. Emotion was likely still controlling Klopp's actions, so it's only fair for Pellegrini to be angry about it.I take it he didn’t talk about the foul on Keita by Noble for the equaliser then?
Yes, that was particularly frustrating. I said in the match thread that by about 30mins on at least two occasions he had received the ball, Cruyf turned his way into trouble and lost the ball, when just taking a simple touch and setting off in the direction he was already facing would have retained possession.
He is a maddening player, because he is probably the most technically skilful England’s player for a generation. He just can’t turn it it off, to the point where it actually makes him look shit.
If anyone had said last summer we'd be three points above City at this stage with Fabinho and Keita starting in the middle we'd have been going off in our kecks yet here we are lamenting the fact Henderson and Wijnaldum didn't play and praying they are fit for the weekend.
Funny old game innit?
We'll have many of them back soon enough, VVD and Milner will hopefully be better by Saturday. Any win against Bournemouth and it'll give the team some confidence back.Ok, it was a disappointing result, but it makes no sense to ignore the number of key players who were absent. Gini, Hendo, and Lovren were added to the list of injured players, a list that already included TAA and Joe Gomez. Throw in the fact that Virgil is still recovering from illness and now Millie has come down/ is coming down with something. No wonder the team looked jaded and the performance sub-par. How many teams in the PL could perform at their best if they found themselves in a similar situation?
Under the circumstances we should perhaps look upon it as a point gained rather than two dropped.
Don't know where you're getting that from mate.Agree...... It’s the first time I’ve ever seen Liverpool get a season of fortunate incidents go their way, in spite of the odd refereeing injustices, I’d say we’re still ahead of where our footballing performance level would put us in terms of points return.
The winning goal against Crystal Palace was scored off a handball by Robbo in the build up.That goal last night was the first time this season a bad call has possibly won us a point. We've had bad calls at Arsenal, City and against Leicester that have probably cost us points.
I’m currently listening to the Anfield Wrap post match, and they are talking about Dubai and making some of the same points I’ve made on this.That's what we keep saying but the situation gets worse instead of better. This has been a period of the season when we should have made hay, less games than City, plenty of rest between matches and an easier set of fixtures.
Instead we've suffered another speight of injuries between matches and come back from Dubai with illness in the camp. I think we'll look back on this phase of the season with a lot of regret at the end of the season.
True, but if he fails at Everton, then he stands very close to being in that 'failed' group of managers that get recycled through teams that have limited ambition to truly push on to the next level and end up being the next Pardew/Pulis/Big Sam/WoyHe probably won't be any more arsed than losing to City, Wolves or any of the other teams that have beaten them. If he loses his job he'll still get a big payday.
True, but you don’t do yourself any favours by being absolutely myopic about the decisions we do get.Their first goal came from a move which should have been a penalty for us.
That's what we keep saying but the situation gets worse instead of better. This has been a period of the season when we should have made hay, less games than City, plenty of rest between matches and an easier set of fixtures.[QUOTE="sms1986, post: 1053057, member: 34976"]We'll have many of them back soon enough, VVD and Milner will hopefully be better by Saturday. Any win against Bournemouth and it'll give the team some confidence back.
I've just acknowledged we've benefitted from 3 offside goals this season. There have been a few 50-50 calls on penalties at Watford, Huddersfield and Wembley but I don't think any of them were as clear cut as Keita last week.True, but you don’t do yourself any favours by being absolutely myopic about the decisions we do get.
By the way I though Kevin Friend was an absolute shithouse last night. I don’t believe in this corruption/bias thing, and I can take refs just being shit, but that prick knew exactly what he was doing, and that makes me furious. He knew that the first goal shouldn’t have stood, especially after half time, and he was absolutely adamant the stories the next day were not going to be about that. His performance in the second half was the performance of a fucking coward.
Yeah fair enough but his comments aren't a pop at the officials are they? Plus he had a little jab before the game.He's irritated about the two wrong decisions from the linesman, understandably so. We'd all be livid if we were West Ham fans.
He's clearly a bitter old cunt. I suppose once you've been tainted by the FFP and human right's abusers it's hard to shake off.Yeah fair enough but his comments aren't a pop at the officials are they? Plus he had a little jab before the game.
Not that it matters to us. I'm more worried about our performance last night and putting that right in the next game.
Its tradition in England to shake the opposing manager's hand at the end of the game even if you hate their guts. Jurgen was doing what's expected of him. I dont think Jurgen said to pellegrini 'hey, that offside goal we scored was good, eh?' It appears it was pellegrini who was the disengenuous one by saying to Klopp he'd benefited twice from offside goals against his teams. Id say Pellegrini needs to take that up with the ref not Jurgen. Pellegrini was also giving shit out before the game about his 'old' club city, who incidentally, binned him off so I think he was being a bitter, twisted old twat myself.Forget about being just irritated about the actual incidents. Klopp mentioned the incidents whilst shaking hands with him which personally i find in poor taste. Emotion was likely still controlling Klopp's actions, so it's only fair for Pellegrini to be angry about it.
This is not to be negative about Klopp as we know he's an emotional beast during games, but merely think neither coaches actions really need discussion.
Very simply Liverpools best assets are the front 3 - and 3 (possibly 4 in Trent) of defensive unit. They are geared to play fast, fluid football at a high tempo. The moment the game slows down or the opposition park the bus - the front 3 are lost. There is no target man to hold play or give the option of aerial threat. They then rely on the midfield or wing/backs to help forge a path and make space for them. and this season that is more often than not lacking. The league position has now long flattered performance even though this is still our best chance of a title for many a moon.Lallana played pretty well and was directly responsible for our goal, but I agree that we missed Gini's control in the centre.
You want to try being a Liverpool fan living in Manchester. I have waited nearly 30 painful years to see Liverpool climb back on the podium and each time they get near they seem to press a self destruct button. It is not doom and gloom - it is absolute frustration over glaryingly obvious failings. ie stop floggin a dead horse with Lallana, Origi, Sturridge, Henderson, Matip - Stop this slide into cautious football - it nullifies our best assets - and invest in something remotely creative. To have a squad of the calibre of City's is perhaps wishfull thinking, but to have a bench which gets anywhere near the calibre of their bench is a necessity if we are to compete for titles.With all this doom and gloom, I think some "fans" will go extinct faster than the Dodo. lol