Post Match: Wolves v Liverpool (EPL 22/1/2020 8pm)

Man of the match

  • Alisson

    Votes: 65 38.9%
  • Alexander-Arnold

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Gomez

    Votes: 43 25.7%
  • Van Dijk

    Votes: 29 17.4%
  • Robertson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Henderson [GOAL 8’]

    Votes: 128 76.6%
  • Wijnaldum

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Oxlade-Chamberlain [off 70’]

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Salah [off 85’]

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • Firmino [GOAL 84’]

    Votes: 41 24.6%
  • Mane [off 33’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Minamino [on 33’]

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Fabinho [on 70’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Origi [on 85’]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    167
  • Poll closed .

CanuckoLFC

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Rewatching the game again with no pressure, here are some updates to my earlier comments.

I have been overly harsh on Mo. He did really well harassing the opposition. Did his defensive duty well when needed. He actually had the right to be a bit selfish on the chances on goal. Nevertheless, 2 of his chances would be more beneficial if he passed to Minamino or Ox.

What a contrast to the last game. Ox was somewhat lacklustre, and once he was switch to take Mane's spot in 2nd half, he was completely lost and with no confidence. Very poor positional awareness in this 2nd half. He should have been sub'ed at 60th minute, not 70th. Perhaps Klopp wanted to ease Fabinho back in rather than have him playing 30 minutes.

Minamino was definitely being thrown into the fire for such an intense game (blessing by fire as the commentator puts it). I was very impressed with his defensive coverage for TAA in the 2nd half.

Gomez was a star tonight partnering Virg. He was always there when TAA, Robbo or Virg were in a bit of trouble.

Ali absolutely saved our bacon with several fantastic saves. Got a faceful of the ball to prove that as well.
 

kiwiredman

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The commentary on the game was shocking. Wolves are a decent team for sure with some really good players and a good stadium with vocal, if immensely thick fans but fucking hell, Jim Proudfoot and that utter cunt Jim Beglin were having a collective wankfest about Wolves and one would think we were playing Barcelona at the Nou Camp or something. Fitting, then, that for all their bleating about how nobody comes back more than Wolves and how nobody comes into the game more than Wolves at a later stage and how Wolves score more than anyone at a later stage we actually score the late winner.
We must have had the same commentators. Talking it up like we were definitely going to lose at 1-1 and how many late goals Wolves had scored. Particularly so when their striker came on towards the end (Jota was it??), talking up all the "critical" last minute goals he had scored.
They seemed to forget that we have more than scored our fair share of late goals.
Thanks Jim's, you can stop stroking each other off now, may I introduce you to Bobby...
 

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Henderson dragged that game out to be honest, aided by Alisson with two key saves. Always going be hard but sadly felt we had seen it out. Wolves changed the way they played and we didn’t adjust for 15 minutes.

Anyhow to me this was the hardest away game bar Man City. We effectively have a free game now to follow.
I think the villa away game was our toughest, we were so off that day, just our determination and belief got us 3 points.
On paper, wolves and city away were going to be our toughest fixtures..
 

kiwiredman

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Conversely I thought Robertson had a difficult 2nd half, he'll be glad this one's over.
Agreed. I thought Robbo was fairly lacklustre. Lost the ball a few times in very dangerous positions and was often very inaccurate. Some might disagree, but based on observations alone I don't think he has been any where near his best for large parts of this season. A lot of uncharacteristic sloppy passing and ball control and has been caught napping a few times.
Not sure what to put it down to, whether it be his persistent ankle injury, which we will never know the full impact of until after the season finishes, or whether it is something else.
I noticed with Gini when he had recently become a father (pretty sure that was the case) that his form dipped a bit. Lack of sleep and pressure of a new born can certainly take its toll!
One things for certain, Robbo will die for the cause and will guts out any injury issues until the bitter end.
 

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For me the most frustrating part of the match was having to change from my regular subscription (which i pay for) to find an international stream in a language i don't understand just so i don't have to listen to the ridiculous anti liverpool commentary.
Quote from Jim Beglin early on: "Two very good teams here, one MIGHT be bordering on great" ... what an absolute wanker
 

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For me the most frustrating part of the match was having to change from my regular subscription (which i pay for) to find an international stream in a language i don't understand just so i don't have to listen to the ridiculous anti liverpool commentary.
Quote from Jim Beglin early on: "Two very good teams here, one MIGHT be bordering on great" ... what an absolute wanker
Imagine we're in 2040 and an ex-player from this current squad is hosting whatever virtual experience passes for a football match...they'd have a legitimately high bar when calling a team 'great' or not.
Beglin is a near tragic figure in LFC history, who due to his bad luck, I always looked on favourably.
 

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Imagine we're in 2040 and an ex-player from this current squad is hosting whatever virtual experience passes for a football match...they'd have a legitimately high bar when calling a team 'great' or not.
Beglin is a near tragic figure in LFC history, who due to his bad luck, I always looked on favourably.
I get ya but really how much higher can this team set the bar? We're literally breaking records every game, still european champions and undefeated in the league and are widely regarded as the best club team on the planet... if that's not GREAT i don't know what is!! if an ex player regardless of how great their team was in the past can't acknowledge greatness when they see it then they shouldn't be commenting on football games. Just watching from afar keeping their salty views to themselves.
 

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Please do not pay @Alright Now any money!
He is scamming everyone that he will offer tickets for elephant rides on my wedding!!
And yes, more than welcome to ride as long as you keep @Alright Now from scamming others :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Thank you for the warning but I can always spare throw away a few Rupees on a great occasion; like your wedding. It will alright then. ;):D
 

Jimmyscase

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I get ya but really how much higher can this team set the bar? We're literally breaking records every game, still european champions and undefeated in the league and are widely regarded as the best club team on the planet... if that's not GREAT i don't know what is!! if an ex player regardless of how great their team was in the past can't acknowledge greatness when they see it then they shouldn't be commenting on football games. Just watching from afar keeping their salty views to themselves.
No my point wasn't disagreeing with you about Beglin's strange reticence to call the current team great already. They are great, he knows it and maybe he genuinely doesn't want to jinx them.
His time at Liverpool was a long time ago and like I said as tragic in its way as any player's ever could be as a League and Cup double winner.
I was listening to his commentary too and I don't think he was being a wanker in saying that.
 

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Players who will really benefit from playing in neither the Cup nor the West Ham game:
Sadio (I wouldn't have played him in either but injured now anyway)
Robbo (imo next game should be So'ton)
Gini (he'd really run himself into the red zone in the Utd game as did Hendo, can they both go again at the Hammers? I think they'll benefit from keeping it to 60 minutes for Hendo and leaving Gini out)
 

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22 wins out of 23!! Is this for real? Am I dreaming this?
I think the game against Leicester was my favourite away victory so far this season as it was such a dominant performance over a decent side. However, this victory was sweet as we were up against it with a seriously capable and in-form side.

Is it all a dream? Led Zeppelin's Stairway To Heaven came on my car's MP3 player as I was driving (frankly far too fast) down the Autobahn this morning - Wolves used this as their entry music. This definitely is happening. Enjoy the ride - it really won't last forever.
 

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Salah preferring to shoot instead of looking up and passing the ball to Minamino doesn't help matters either. Minamino will do far better when he's paired with Mane and Bobby.
Maybe have a look at Salahs stats for goal involvement including assists, before you replace him with a relatively unproven new signing.
Minamino may become integral in the squad, but pairing him with the other two isnt necessarily what works best for the team. Salah did everything but score last night. If any other player was as industrious we would be calling him MOTM.
 

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Maybe have a look at Salahs stats for goal involvement including assists, before you replace him with a relatively unproven new signing.
Minamino may become integral in the squad, but pairing him with the other two isnt necessarily what works best for the team. Salah did everything but score last night. If any other player was as industrious we would be calling him MOTM.
Well said @Quicksand. Let's revel in the unique talent of Salah instead of knocking him. He's ours and he works his socks off for the team.
 
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The biggest surprise these last few weeks and probably of the season is Henderson's rise to a level that I never thought possible.

He has become a complete midfielder. He defends, he creates, he scores, he runs for 90 minutes and he leads. I've even seen him dribble past a player or two! On this form he truly is one of the best midfielders in the world.

Who would have thought that he (and Wijnaldum as his usual partner) would become the linchpins of the midfield during this amazing run?
 

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a few things

1. At this point, Salah being called "selfish" by anyone is just false. On our field of play he is our biggest threat and he literally draws defenders to him. Because he has self belief he will take shots and i don't mind him taking shots at all. If he could pass every now and then we will be 100 but i don't think people have a right to label Mo as anything negative when he is only being a forward. Im sure Ronaldo and Messi all have chances similar to Salah, but we won't criticise them for taking the shot, so why are we attacking Salah for? Our front guys need confidence and if he needs to take shots to help with that, let it be. Cause at the end of the season his goal tally will be up there with the best in this league and it would have helped us secure our first title in 30 years. (all depending of course, now guarantees in life)

2.

So in this video one of the show guys Ale Moreno says we have been on this run and barely hanging in games and that we are vulnerable. Lets get it straight right here. This is not luck, its not something we just luck out each game and teams take it easy on us. Every game the lads have played have been wins created by their efforts built on season after season of experience and will. I find people trying to belittle our run and saying we are barely getting through games. Well of course , the opposition for the most point has been tough, we have marred with injuries and fixture overload since November. People were expecting us to struggle during this DEC - JAN period but we have come out of it in strength. You know how many games Gini, Van Dijk and Robbo have played this season alone? It just ticks me off. I remember during citys title runs they had poor spells and or games where they struggled. But why do they get lauded and we get attacked? We certainly didn't play like Jose's chelseas teams which parked the bus later in their runs.

3. Everyone still sleeping on Hendo, our captain has been a steady rock for this team and very much the moral backbone for the team in terms of ethics, conduct and effort. I really do feel we should appreciate him more.