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Pre-Match | Liverpool vs Brighton | PL Matchday 14 | Saturday November 30th | 15:00h | Anfield

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FilthyBloke

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This isn’t the Brighton of last year. They have improved.
We haven’t kept a clean sheet in months and a lot of our players look a little jaded and out of form. No Fabinho either.
A 2-0 would be swell.
 

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Can we for once score like 2-3 goals in the first 15-20 minutes? First halves have been a write off recently. Intentional or not, it's a high risk strategy and the gains have been good (Period) but it takes a toll on us fans. :)

Think this is against city and bring that clinical side of us please!
 

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In the Kop for this one. Daughter coming down from Scotland too. Looking forward to it.... but just not sure what we are going to get with this red team.

We haven't really got going yet - look weaker defensively than we have for a while. Salah looks like he's playing with an injury. Brighton are better than last year and will play with no fear.

Just want 3 points, but a nice score with clean sheet would be a bonus. Will watch the newcastle match beforehand and hope they can get a draw off city.

Every game is just so tense at the moment.
 



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Brighton should come and try play football and have a go so we should get plenty of chances.

This is an ideal fixture to get over last night and I expect us to be right on it from the start.

It would be great to keep a clean sheet and win a game comfortably for once but it's down to the team being on it from the off, no more laboured starts.

I expect Lallana to start (sorry folks) and probably Gini and Hendo.

Its time for Salah and Bobby to start chipping in more, Mane can't carry the fight every week.
 






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Another difficult game for Liverpool.

We are not playing well and the players have forgotten the last time we had a clean sheet. It is a problem that we can't stop conceding goals and also the lethargic first halves we play for almost two months /City is the only difference and in that match they also stared better till we scored the first goal/.

Looking at our league games, for the last two months the players looked too relaxed and overconfident: Sheffield United /0-0 first half, won it after the break/, Leicester /decent first half and a strong finish of the game/, Manure away /awful first half, improved after the break and saved the point in the 85th minute/, Spurs at home /conceded in the first 60 seconds of the match and lost the 1st half again, LFC improved after the break and won the game/, Villa away /one of the worst first halves for us this season, still the players with luck and belief scored two late, late goals/, Palace away /the same as Villa/.

Looking at the CL it is not very different - two very poor first halves vs. Genk /1-1 at home and 1-0 in Belgium, but they had 3 clear chances at thei place/. And yesterday once again we conceded during the first 25 minutes vs. Napoli.

Defensively we are not the same team as last season, we let our opponents to create and score, even last Saturday Zaha had a 100% chances in the 92nd minute, left absolutely unmarked 6-7 metres from Alisson. Last night was not that different, giving so much space and time to Mertens to dcore their goal.

BHA play with 5 in defence /the same way as Napoli/ and will try to hit us early /while we are in our usual 1st half nap/ and then they will defend deep and try disappoint us. They have speed in Connoly and Maupay /we struggle against teams with speedy forwards that play with balls behind our defence/, they have a solid defence in Dunk, Webster and Burn and hard working midfielders in Stephens, Mooy and Propper. They are rested, while our players had another difficult match in midweek.

And I don't like reading that we will score 4 or 5 goals on Saturday, because at the moment it looks like a sci-fi. From the start of the season we have scored 4 goals at Anfield only once /back in August against Norwich, a team which tried to attack us, BHA won't attack us, they will defend with all they have, wait for theit chances and our mistakes and will know that if they stop Salah, Mane and Firmino we will become toothless.

Just win the fuckin game and hopefully Fabinho's injury won't be serious.

P.S. What the hell is going on with Matip, by the way. Is there a problem in our medicine department. Last season they decided that Gomez will not need a surgery /broken leg/ and waited for a couple of weeks /6 if we have to be right/, then they decided that Gomez needs an operation, because his condition did not improve. Now they decided that Matip needs to rest for a few weeks, well Joel still can not train after 6 weeks and now I hear that he is going to have an operation, meaning that we will miss him for at least another month. And Joel is so important, his absence will leave us with only 3 fit center backs in one of the most important periods of the season /Fabinho, another option, is also injured/ and we know that Lovren has never played more than 6 consecutive games for Liverpool, while Gomez's form this season is a cause of concern /never mind that if Klopp plays Joe as a central defender we will be left with zero adequate cover for our full backs and don't belive for a second that Klopp will play Larouci, Hoever or Williams. He won't. They have the same chance to start as Berwster has for leading our attack, if Firmino and Mane are injured for example. In emergency situations we will see Hendo, Milner at full back or a different formation, but not the youngsters in the important league games. Youngsters will play in the Legue cup and FA cup predominantly
 

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Another difficult game for Liverpool.

We are not playing well and the players have forgotten the last time we had a clean sheet. It is a problem that we can't stop conceding goals and also the lethargic first halves we play for almost two months /City is the only difference and in that match they also stared better till we scored the first goal/.

Looking at our league games, for the last two months the players looked too relaxed and overconfident: Sheffield United /0-0 first half, won it after the break/, Leicester /decent first half and a strong finish of the game/, Manure away /awful first half, improved after the break and saved the point in the 85th minute/, Spurs at home /conceded in the first 60 seconds of the match and lost the 1st half again, LFC improved after the break and won the game/, Villa away /one of the worst first halves for us this season, still the players with luck and belief scored two late, late goals/, Palace away /the same as Villa/.

Looking at the CL it is not very different - two very poor first halves vs. Genk /1-1 at home and 1-0 in Belgium, but they had 3 clear chances at thei place/. And yesterday once again we conceded during the first 25 minutes vs. Napoli.

Defensively we are not the same team as last season, we let our opponents to create and score, even last Saturday Zaha had a 100% chances in the 92nd minute, left absolutely unmarked 6-7 metres from Alisson. Last night was not that different, giving so much space and time to Mertens to dcore their goal.

BHA play with 5 in defence /the same way as Napoli/ and will try to hit us early /while we are in our usual 1st half nap/ and then they will defend deep and try disappoint us. They have speed in Connoly and Maupay /we struggle against teams with speedy forwards that play with balls behind our defence/, they have a solid defence in Dunk, Webster and Burn and hard working midfielders in Stephens, Mooy and Propper. They are rested, while our players had another difficult match in midweek.

And I don't like reading that we will score 4 or 5 goals on Saturday, because at the moment it looks like a sci-fi. From the start of the season we have scored 4 goals at Anfield only once /back in August against Norwich, a team which tried to attack us, BHA won't attack us, they will defend with all they have, wait for theit chances and our mistakes and will know that if they stop Salah, Mane and Firmino we will become toothless.

Just win the fuckin game and hopefully Fabinho's injury won't be serious.

P.S. What the hell is going on with Matip, by the way. Is there a problem in our medicine department. Last season they decided that Gomez will not need a surgery /broken leg/ and waited for a couple of weeks /6 if we have to be right/, then they decided that Gomez needs an operation, because his condition did not improve. Now they decided that Matip needs to rest for a few weeks, well Joel still can not train after 6 weeks and now I hear that he is going to have an operation, meaning that we will miss him for at least another month. And Joel is so important, his absence will leave us with only 3 fit center backs in one of the most important periods of the season /Fabinho, another option, is also injured/ and we know that Lovren has never played more than 6 consecutive games for Liverpool, while Gomez's form this season is a cause of concern /never mind that if Klopp plays Joe as a central defender we will be left with zero adequate cover for our full backs and don't belive for a second that Klopp will play Larouci, Hoever or Williams. He won't. They have the same chance to start as Berwster has for leading our attack, if Firmino and Mane are injured for example. In emergency situations we will see Hendo, Milner at full back or a different formation, but not the youngsters in the important league games. Youngsters will play in the Legue cup and FA cup predominantly
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Another difficult game for Liverpool.

We are not playing well and the players have forgotten the last time we had a clean sheet. It is a problem that we can't stop conceding goals and also the lethargic first halves we play for almost two months /City is the only difference and in that match they also stared better till we scored the first goal/.

Looking at our league games, for the last two months the players looked too relaxed and overconfident: Sheffield United /0-0 first half, won it after the break/, Leicester /decent first half and a strong finish of the game/, Manure away /awful first half, improved after the break and saved the point in the 85th minute/, Spurs at home /conceded in the first 60 seconds of the match and lost the 1st half again, LFC improved after the break and won the game/, Villa away /one of the worst first halves for us this season, still the players with luck and belief scored two late, late goals/, Palace away /the same as Villa/.

Looking at the CL it is not very different - two very poor first halves vs. Genk /1-1 at home and 1-0 in Belgium, but they had 3 clear chances at thei place/. And yesterday once again we conceded during the first 25 minutes vs. Napoli.

Defensively we are not the same team as last season, we let our opponents to create and score, even last Saturday Zaha had a 100% chances in the 92nd minute, left absolutely unmarked 6-7 metres from Alisson. Last night was not that different, giving so much space and time to Mertens to dcore their goal.

BHA play with 5 in defence /the same way as Napoli/ and will try to hit us early /while we are in our usual 1st half nap/ and then they will defend deep and try disappoint us. They have speed in Connoly and Maupay /we struggle against teams with speedy forwards that play with balls behind our defence/, they have a solid defence in Dunk, Webster and Burn and hard working midfielders in Stephens, Mooy and Propper. They are rested, while our players had another difficult match in midweek.

And I don't like reading that we will score 4 or 5 goals on Saturday, because at the moment it looks like a sci-fi. From the start of the season we have scored 4 goals at Anfield only once /back in August against Norwich, a team which tried to attack us, BHA won't attack us, they will defend with all they have, wait for theit chances and our mistakes and will know that if they stop Salah, Mane and Firmino we will become toothless.

Just win the fuckin game and hopefully Fabinho's injury won't be serious.

P.S. What the hell is going on with Matip, by the way. Is there a problem in our medicine department. Last season they decided that Gomez will not need a surgery /broken leg/ and waited for a couple of weeks /6 if we have to be right/, then they decided that Gomez needs an operation, because his condition did not improve. Now they decided that Matip needs to rest for a few weeks, well Joel still can not train after 6 weeks and now I hear that he is going to have an operation, meaning that we will miss him for at least another month. And Joel is so important, his absence will leave us with only 3 fit center backs in one of the most important periods of the season /Fabinho, another option, is also injured/ and we know that Lovren has never played more than 6 consecutive games for Liverpool, while Gomez's form this season is a cause of concern /never mind that if Klopp plays Joe as a central defender we will be left with zero adequate cover for our full backs and don't belive for a second that Klopp will play Larouci, Hoever or Williams. He won't. They have the same chance to start as Berwster has for leading our attack, if Firmino and Mane are injured for example. In emergency situations we will see Hendo, Milner at full back or a different formation, but not the youngsters in the important league games. Youngsters will play in the Legue cup and FA cup predominantly
Well, aren't you a barrel of laughs?;)

It will be difficult no doubt. Biggest factor being the quick turnaround after last night's exertions.

I think the back 4 picks itself. Hendo and Gini as the pivot and hope Hendo can give us a good hour before being replaced by either Milner or Lallana. AOC playing off the front 3.

If we take our chances that team should be good enough to see these off, they're pretty shite away from home.
 

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I don't think we can have Lallana starting all games as holding midfielder, despite him supposedly being trained for that role. While Gini did took that role last game, it may be Hendo from here on similar to what we had before Fab was a mainstay in the team.

That means Ox has to be a regular now, and Keita featuring more often. This is really the time for Ox, Keita and Shaqs to step up, can't rely on Milly to be that 3rd mid in all games.
 

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I wonder if we set up as a 4231 due to the Fabinho injury and look to get the players settled into this formation, with Bobby in the hole behind Salah. Maybe a stint centrally would do Salah some good. The wing position is interesting then, Ox? Shaq? Origi on the left moving Mane on the right, that might be a tad too offensive.
 

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First reaction to Fabinhos injury ‚Big Blow'

Second thought 'injuries are part of the game. Think positive. Maybe we start winning games high score + clean sheets finally'

With that said 3-0 tomorrow.
 



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So, Fabinho is probably out for four weeks or more. That's the whole month of December and beyond, potentially eleven games or more... This means that a major element of our spine has been removed out of us. We lose at the same time our most effective defensive player in midfield, and also the one most able to launch precise balls for new attacking moves.

I won't use the word disaster, because injuries are part and parcel of the game. Man City will have to make do without Aguero for around the same time, we'll have to cope without Fab. Shit happens, and at least, it's not for the full season. When Fab comes back, he'll be well rested and raring to go again.

But Klopp needs to quickly find a new balance in his midfield now. Looking from the outside in, I'd say that this represents a huge chance for Keita to lay down a marker over the next weeks. I hope that he has fully recovered physically, and is ready to go. Also, Ox has now a chance to play more and more regularly, which he will relish. If I was Klopp, I'd see this as the ideal opportunity to create a new balance as our opponents until Leicester on December 26 will be second rate. Without wanting to disrespect them, as they'll be tough opposition too, they are not Man City or Napoli. So, it's an opportunity for Keita to bed himself into the team, which he hasn't had the opportunity to do so far.

A change of system might be on the cards. We haven't any player bar Fabinho able to fully master the position he has played in our 433. So, a 4231 could be the way to go. Hendo and Gini (covered by Millie and Lallana) doing the defensive job (I know, it's not their best position) and Ox (covered by Keita) supporting the front three? Or will Klopp trust Lallana to take over Fab's role in the 433? We'll see.

But Brighton at home isn't the worst fixture to find a new balance in the team. Let's see how Klopp decides to go, and let's also cross fingers that our lads can cope with Fabinho's absence as well as they coped with Allison's at the start of the season.
 

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P.S. What the hell is going on with Matip, by the way. Is there a problem in our medicine department. Last season they decided that Gomez will not need a surgery /broken leg/ and waited for a couple of weeks /6 if we have to be right/, then they decided that Gomez needs an operation, because his condition did not improve. Now they decided that Matip needs to rest for a few weeks, well Joel still can not train after 6 weeks and now I hear that he is going to have an operation, meaning that we will miss him for at least another month. And Joel is so important, his absence will leave us with only 3 fit center backs in one of the most important periods of the season /Fabinho, another option, is also injured/ and we know that Lovren has never played more than 6 consecutive games for Liverpool, while Gomez's form this season is a cause of concern /never mind that if Klopp plays Joe as a central defender we will be left with zero adequate cover for our full backs and don't belive for a second that Klopp will play Larouci, Hoever or Williams. He won't. They have the same chance to start as Berwster has for leading our attack, if Firmino and Mane are injured for example. In emergency situations we will see Hendo, Milner at full back or a different formation, but not the youngsters in the important league games. Youngsters will play in the Legue cup and FA cup predominantly
I think the medical team are going about it correctly. More often than not it's worth being patient with injuries. it's much better if they clear up 'naturally'. But yes once the surgery is deemed necessary it's very easy to feel time has been wasted. So it takes courage from a medical team to say let's wait and monitor and also good communication between different staff as well as great understanding from the likes of Klopp (who surely would like to be at full strength as quickly as possible).
For us the fans these situations are particularly frustrating as we are not given the information and even if we don't need it we want it. I have been critical in the past about the information passed on to us fans as soo many of our injured players have been out much longer than anticipated. In hindsight I think it's perhaps proof that the waiting for a clearer picture is benificial rather than jumping straight in to do an operation that also has risks.
 
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It's long overdue we brought the tools to crack those floodgates wide open. I want 4 or 5 and a clean sheet. I used to watch Brighton when I lived in Crawley and saw the Jimmy Case testimonial there where I'm sure Rush played and randomly Gazza but I could have dreamt that. Anyway, my brother in laws a seagull and he's way too abusive and supporting og City over of us so I need a big win. Fabs a big miss but its nabys times to shine... Gini Keita Hendo in the middle. Time for The King TM to step up once more and slay doubting Thomas with a couple of swift hits with his left peg. Cant wait.
 

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Can anyone see Lallana start in the Fabinho position tomorrow?
 



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