Preferences for the top 4?

Who would you prefer to finish 3rd and 4th?

  • Spurs & Arsenal

    Votes: 35 55.6%
  • Spurs & Chelsea

    Votes: 12 19.0%
  • Spurs & United

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chelsea & Arsenal

    Votes: 13 20.6%
  • Chelsea & United

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Arsenal & United

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    63

FilthyBloke

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Just wondered why people would prefer whatever scenario.
Is it just rivalry or to stall progress from a certain club?
 

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Spurs and Chelsea for me. Arsenal back in the CL are a far more attractive option for players than a dysfunctional Chelsea in my view (even ignoring the possibility that they will remain under a transfer embargo). Spurs will still not have any money.

That could then be half of the PL CL clubs effectively removed as serious competition for the top players that may be available. United could still, of course, throw money at players and clubs to get players to join them in the EL but further exclusion from the top continental competition will hurt financially.

Same for Arsenal but because of Ozil they'll have to offer inflated wages to persuade players to join a EL club. And they've got a load of positions that they need to strengthen.

So yeah, Spurs and Chelsea for me.
 
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Definitely Spurs, being in the Champions League isn't helping them progress as they've hit a glass ceiling and I expect them to lose their manager and star players soon.

Toss up between Arsenal and Chelsea for my second pick. Chelsea are vulnerable, they'll probably throw an appeal in to be able to operate in this transfer window so they can complete business before any ban. With their manager turmoil and if they weren't in champions league what could they achieve though? Arsenal aren't as vulnerable but if they make the top 4 it'll seem like they've got themselves together and they'll be seen as the "safe" and reliable London team that can pay decent enough wages whilst being a regular in the Champions League. Went for Arsenal as the opportunity for Chelsea to be seriously damaged is too appealing.

Obviously not United 1 because of the rivalry and 2 because being out of top 4 hurts their financial juggernaut of a power base a little.
 

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Looking at it from the 'being in the Top4 gives Clubs an advantage in signing and keeping players' perspective

Arsenal - another year without CL could turn them into a mid-table club.

Chelsea - are banned from signing players anyway - so hopefully they end up in the Top4

Would be nice if Tottenham miss out

Even nicer if ManU misses out.
 

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Spurs and Chelsea for me. Arsenal back in the CL are a far more attractive option for players than a dysfunctional Chelsea in my view (even ignoring the possibility that they will remain under a transfer embargo). Spurs will still not have any money.

That could then be half of the PL CL clubs effectively removed as serious competition for the top players that may be available. United could still, of course, throw money at players and clubs to get players to join them in the EL but further exclusion from the top continental competition will hurt financially.

Same for Arsenal but because of Ozil they'll have to offer inflated wages to persuade players to join a EL club. And they've got a load of positions that they need to strengthen.

So yeah, Spurs and Chelsea for me.
I see it the other way around. Chelsea as much of a basket case as they are will still attract top players as they have the financial means to pay big wages (whether their ban is upheld or not will depend on when they can do it). Arsenal, despite having paid off their stadium and have huge match day income have a leech of an owner that will continue to suck money out of the club so they will struggle to match the wages that other clubs can offer.
 

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Not remotely interested in where other clubs finish as long as we win it.... ..never got the unhealthy obsession or hatred some fans have for other clubs.
True, although I certainly prefer thinking about what might be the best order of clubs below us that's most damaging to them rather than that bullshit thread asking who we'd want to win the league if we couldn't. I mean, wtf.
 

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Just based on a distaste ranking from the club I can just about stand to the two oligarch and sheikh plastics at the bottom. With the points showing the range of hate:
Max distaste= 100
Spurs. 99.9
Arsenal. 99.99
Man Utd. 99.999 recurring up to a googleplex of decimal paces
City. 99.999 recurring up to a googleplex to the power of a googleplex of decimal places
Chelsea 100 and eradicate from the earth
Our club should refuse to play Chelsea and take the 25 point penalty for as long as the Putin puppet and his enablers still haven't been stripped of their UK assets. I remembered; our government's slow and hamfisted response post-Salisbury allowed the assets to still be protectable by his decision to get Israeli citizenship.
 
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Arsenal & Chelsea for me. Obviously not Man Utd and Spurs are a bunch of diving , self entitled prima-donnas.
 

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Spurs and Chelsea for me also.

It's a fairly simple decision as I think the longer Arsenal and United spend in the EL the harder it will be for them to claw their way back in, and they're already started down that road (Arsenal especially). Chelsea are imploding anyway and will have a transfer embargo and Spurs are broke anyway and facing something of a wages crisis among their players that could see their bigger names move on and there's a good chance their manager will be off regardless.
 

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Not remotely interested in where other clubs finish as long as we win it.... ..never got the unhealthy obsession or hatred some fans have for other clubs.
I find the entire premier league interesting. Especially when what happens to other teams can directly influence what money they have to spend.
 

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For me, it’s Utd and Chelsea - Spurs and Arsenal missing out.

I don’t think there is any benefit to Utd missing out. They have the spending power to just force their way back in. But Spurs missing out would seriously hamper their ability to compete with us.

Chelsea are a funny one. I’m not sure how their ban affects this, on one hand it could be beneficial to have them in there, but unable to use their participation to improve the squad. On the other hand if they are allowed to spend this summer, seeing them miss out would be ideal. I am a bit worried about Emery being able to offer CL at Arsenal.
 

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I'm looking at this more from a Europa League perspective - I'd prefer to have United and Chelsea in there, that would then impact their league performance somewhat.

Also, Spurs and Arsenal don't have much cash to splash so they won't be making significant signings - which then means that United and Chelsea wouldn't be as attractive without champions league.

I know chelsea have this impending ban, but they have appealed, so will get at least one window.

Out of the 4 teams, I think i like united and chelsea the least.
 

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Chelsea and arsenal

Just can't stand spurs and their supporters so would love to see that club disintegrate under the debt of the stadium.
 

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United missing out is the obvious one really. They have the spending power but another season out of the Champions League they would not be as attractive a proposition.
 

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Think Spurs and Arsenal will have less impact on us next season.Chelsea and Utd will spend big and be financially capable of attracting top players regardless of where they finish this season so keeping them in european competition next season as long as possible will keep them as busy, games wise, as ourselves and City.
 

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I not only think Spurs and Arsenal, I am hoping them too. I want to see Utd bust a gut trying to get there, but miss out by 1 point, and Chelsea - just no.
 

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^^^^^^^^^^ yep me too, give a fck like not. LFC top is all that matters now were at the business end.
 



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Talk about being asked to pick the shiniest poo in the bowl.

Went for Chelsea and Arsenal. ArsenalFanTV (Or AFTV Media as they're now called since the club apparently threatened to sue them, ahahah) is one of the greatest things on earth, and the fume that would arise from regular tonkings in the Champions League would be wonderful. (And of the rest of the big six, I find their fans to USUALLY be the most reasonable of the bunch.)

Chelsea... I feel awful for Sarri, so be nice for him to do it. And a season in the top four and the Champions League would likely paper over a shedload of cracks, and keep the dysfunction ticking over for another year.

As to why no United, well that's bloody obvious. And Spurs are now cemented as my least liked team in Lahndaaaaaahn tahn. The sheer level of shite they get away with on a weekly basis (THAT'S VIOLENT CONDUCT AND HE SHOULD BE BANNE...oh sorry Mr. Kane, didn't realize it was you. Would you like a cup of tea while we finish writing the latest piece of propaga... I mean article about how you're the player everyone in England should aspire to be? Well, not those coloured chappies of course, what what?! And Mr. Levy of COURSE its not a problem that your stadium project is an absolute debacle, we'd be happy to let you live in Wembley rent free and without punishment for basically being an itinerant club. Also, how many free dives would you like us to put you down for next match?)
 

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Torn here a bit.

Spurs and United are the most feasible options of taking points off City but I certainly dont want United in the top 4 again. I have a growing dislike for Spurs too.

Is a dramatic collapse of City allowed?
 

FilthyBloke

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Couldn't give a fuck.
I'm only interested in dropping less points than City between now and May 12th.
We all want that. I don’t get why people have to come into a thread they have no interest in to say they have no interest in it.
We have a Scottish thread on here, a lower league thread, threads dedicated to other teams and players and threads on all sorts.
I just like discussion.
 

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We all want that. I don’t get why people have to come into a thread they have no interest in to say they have no interest in it.
We have a Scottish thread on here, a lower league thread, threads dedicated to other teams and players and threads on all sorts.
I just like discussion.
And we are discussing.
You asked who we'd prefer to see in the top 4 and the diplomatic version of what I said is, I really dont mind who finishes below us.