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Season Comparison: 2017/18 v 2018/2019

The Elusive 19th

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We are -1 in GD when you compare the current season against last. So we are doing poorly and are in a bad state currently and we won't be getting any hike this year. Oops... Sorry.. i suddenly remembered how all our managers tweak stats to make us miserable... Got carried away a bit.
 


Perth Red

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Here's a sobering fact for you. After 9 games last season, we had 13 points.

This season comparison is comparing the same matches - not the order of matches. If we get to xmas and are in the Top 2 places, we should have a good number of points and some momentum to carry us over some of the more trickier matches.
Apologies, I was comparing with the same fixtures from last year
 

Mamadou.sakho

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this season with stronger goalkeeper and power house midfield
we could finish higher than last season

although, we're a bit lack of creativity
 

Irishanfield

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this season with stronger goalkeeper and power house midfield
we could finish higher than last season

although, we're a bit lack of creativity
We look more of a complete team so far even though we haven't fully clicked so if we don't finish higher than 4th it'd be a poor season

We created the chances against the spurs just poor finishing kept them in the game.
 



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For the first time this season, we are now three points ahead of last season's achievements, looking at the corresponding fixtures. Looking good so far! :well done:
 

Fowler's Left Peg

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First job of the day had to be updating this, so happy!!

First big test passed, and we aren't even playing well, how good does it feel?

Here's the table, how good does that GA comparision look, 8 conceeded in these fixtures last season compared to 2 this term, if we can maintain that and our attack starts to fire we are going to be a nightmare.

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Billy Biskix

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Our best ever start to a PL season. Still aren't top though which shows how little margin for error there is going to be this season. The Spurs win was massive for all sorts of reasons but it laid down a marker for how much we'd progressed since the corresponding game there last season which was a shitshow defensively. Now, even without the front 3 firing, we're still able to win games.

Three points ahead of the same fixtures last season but as @Red_Jedi has already pointed out we are 7 points ahead of where we were after the same number of games last season. This is an even more relevant statistic as we were left behind at the start of last season and never had a hope of catching up.
 

Zinedine Biscan

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Wow, just look at the that run coming up where we drew all last season's corresponding fixtures: Cardiff (h), Arsenal, Fulham (h), Watford, Everton (h).

Arsenal away potentially still trickyish, but think we'll emerge from that run with vastly more points that we garnered last season.
 



lfc.eddie

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Yeah, I am more concerned over how we were at this stage of last season compared to where we are right now, and it looked mighty promising. If I was to look at where I would like us to be come mid season, I always said if we could collect 40-45 points at that point in time, we have a very good chance of winning the league. Man City performance of last season was extremely unprecedented but we cannot discount it as a one time thing since the possibilities are still there (could be us, Man City or Chelsea making that run again).

All I am wishing for us to do is to convert 75% of those draws to wins, maintain the number of wins, which will give us 30 wins, 4 draws and 4 losses. If we don't win the league with that sort of record, then the winner very well deserves the title.
 

legalalien

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Yeah, I am more concerned over how we were at this stage of last season compared to where we are right now, and it looked mighty promising. If I was to look at where I would like us to be come mid season, I always said if we could collect 40-45 points at that point in time, we have a very good chance of winning the league. Man City performance of last season was extremely unprecedented but we cannot discount it as a one time thing since the possibilities are still there (could be us, Man City or Chelsea making that run again).

All I am wishing for us to do is to convert 75% of those draws to wins, maintain the number of wins, which will give us 30 wins, 4 draws and 4 losses. If we don't win the league with that sort of record, then the winner very well deserves the title.
Which would pretty much emulate the 78/79 season when we had 30 wins, 8 draws and 4 losses. A record points total for 2 points for a win over 42 matches.
City have certainly raised the bar.
 

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This is becoming my favourite thread!

With Chelsea and City in the league next - I don't think we will lose to Chelsea, but not sure if we will beat City at home....
If we do win both of those, than we certainly make a statement, and the marker is set.

Exciting times.
 

lfc.eddie

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This is becoming my favourite thread!

With Chelsea and City in the league next - I don't think we will lose to Chelsea, but not sure if we will beat City at home....
If we do win both of those, than we certainly make a statement, and the marker is set.

Exciting times.
We have to beat City, and even if we share a point with Chelsea, it's still an improvement from last season. So we need to take at least 4 out of the 6 points offered in those two matches. Then the league knows shit is getting real with us....
 



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I said at the start of the thread we had 22 points at game 10 last season and I felt that was a decent return based on the fixtures, we are on course to beat that which is great and puts us in a good position to take advantage of the fixtures we under achieved in last season. Games 11-20 only returned 17 points, this is where we can gain ground on last season
 

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We have to beat City, and even if we share a point with Chelsea, it's still an improvement from last season. So we need to take at least 4 out of the 6 points offered in those two matches. Then the league knows shit is getting real with us....
I agree it is important we get minimum 4 points out of the 6 in these 2 games.

Beat Man City is the preferable result but a draw in that game and Win against Chelsea isn't the worst.

We must not lose to City
 

Fowler's Left Peg

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Morning all,

Its not that I am getting excited...... but..... I have quickly knocked up the below table based on previous winners and points totals after 9 games and at the end of the season.

Yes that is correct, I don't have anything better to do, plus this information is freely available on the internet and only took me a few minutes to adjust and play about with.

I have added a points per game box at the bottom, this shows the points per game average you need to hit the related points total.

Arsene Wenger once said you need between 82-86 points to win the title, what do we all think. how many points will win it this year?

 



veteranMortal

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Morning all,

Its not that I am getting excited...... but..... I have quickly knocked up the below table based on previous winners and points totals after 9 games and at the end of the season.

Yes that is correct, I don't have anything better to do, plus this information is freely available on the internet and only took me a few minutes to adjust and play about with.

I have added a points per game box at the bottom, this shows the points per game average you need to hit the related points total.

Arsene Wenger once said you need between 82-86 points to win the title, what do we all think. how many points will win it this year?

The result from last season doesn't seem mathematically possible. 9x3 is 27, so having 26 points after 9 games would require 2 points from one of the games, which you can't get.
 

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It's pretty encouraging that after 6 games we've already got at least as many and in some cases more points than the title-winners had in 9 out of 26 previous seasons.

You have to measure yourselves against the current opposition though and it has to be said City are still the team to beat, are only two points behind us and there's no reason to believe they'll be any weaker than last season. However, how did they manage to only drop 1 point out of their first 27 last season?

In any case, our games against them are going to be key. If we can beat them at home and gain at least a draw at their place, every reason to believe we can be celebrating come May.
 

Jimmyscase

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City are still the team to beat, are only two points behind us and there's no reason to believe they'll be any weaker than last season. However, how did they manage to only drop 1 point out of their first 27 last season?
The City draw in the first 9 games last season was against Everton so no-one should begrudge them getting 2 points for that as long as Everton get none!
 

Jimmyscase

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That table also looks like the ultimate proof of how lucky United have been.
The average points tally in their title years is way below those of City and Chelsea.
 

Fowler's Left Peg

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Just realised I am looking at it all wrong. Man City hit 100 points last season, however 2nd place only hit 81 points. So impressive as it is how many points Man City hit, 82 points was the magic number last season to be crowned champions.

Based on this I have added in the points total for the team fininshing 2nd relative to the season and then the magic number next to it, the points that was required to win the title that season.

The highest amount that has been required over the last 26 season was 90 points, this was the season of Aguerooooo!!!!

Is 90 the Magic number???
 



Fowler's Left Peg

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As impressive as last season was, surely 90-100 points totals are not going to become the norm are they?

I would hope this season would be more competitive and City will struggle more?
 

Fowler's Left Peg

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The result from last season doesn't seem mathematically possible. 9x3 is 27, so having 26 points after 9 games would require 2 points from one of the games, which you can't get.
Looks like the website I butchered the figures from were maybe not the most accurate, thought I had changed all the errors but obviously not. It should be 25 for Man City after 9 games last season

DISCLAIMER - Majority of the figures are a copy and paste job, please don't shoot me down for errors :)
 

lfc.eddie

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Can’t look at first 9 and decide where you end up in the end of the season. Leicester was not leading the table at that point of the season. I always look at mid season point and compared them to previous season average and the next 19 matches average points. That gives me a better picture of where we might fuck things up.
 

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My gut feeling is we will need 95+ points to win the title
That’s my feeling too. 90 +. I don’t think City will go at the pace they went at last year, but I do think that it will be incredibly competitive.