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Sepp van den Berg (CB) PEC Zwolle

What will van den Berg be leaning on?

  • Big Cup

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • Impatient scousers

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Sad Beckenbauer

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • The welcoming arms of Alex Inglethorpe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The legacy of a thousand destroyed young centre halves

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Echo journalists, still denying this is happening.

    Votes: 8 40.0%
  • Internet fans, who’ve been ‘tracking him for years’

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Pile of discarded offers from the ‘big clubs’

    Votes: 2 10.0%

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This is how we do transfers, lol Rumour at midnight, confirmed by 11am

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Yeah, what a difference this makes! Fantastic stuff! :cheers: The Echo confirm as well that the club are confident to seal the deal, but not done yet, mind.

If we beat Bayern to this boy, who have a sensational recruitment structure, and have developed umpty brilliant players in the last decades, it will show yet again how much we have grown in stature and attractiveness for young players. This hasn't only to do with our first team doing so well currently, but also that we start to be genuinely renown for our development work. It seems to pay fruits now. Two-three years ago, we'd have had no chance to pip a young player from under Bayern's noses.

And Ajax are world champions for player development anyway, so it's no mean feat to be able to convince this Dutch lad to join us despite their interest.
 



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Not another thread going to be lost to Kopstar baiting? Seriously you don't like his posts or don't believe what he says just ignore him and act like a grown up instead of turning every post he comments in into a shit show.
It's just supposed to be a bit of fun but for some reason there are posters who don't like idle speculation when it comes from me!
 

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Yeah, what a difference this makes! Fantastic stuff! :cheers: The Echo confirm as well that the club are confident to seal the deal, but not done yet, mind.

If we beat Bayern to this boy, who have a sensational recruitment structure, and have developed umpty brilliant players in the last decades, it will show yet again how much we have grown in stature and attractiveness for young players. This hasn't only to do with our first team doing so well currently, but also that we start to be genuinely renown for our development work. It seems to pay fruits now. Two-three years ago, we'd have had no chance to pip a young player from under Bayern's noses.

And Ajax are world champions for player development anyway, so it's no mean feat to be able to convince this Dutch lad to join us despite their interest.

And since when have Bayern developed players :think:

I thought their modus operandi was to steal all the cream off the top of all other Bundesliga clubs when they near the end of their contracts?
 



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Liverpool are hopeful of beating a host of Europe's biggest clubs to the signing of Dutch wonderkid Sepp van den Berg.

The 17-year-old centre-back plays for PEC Zwolle in the Eredivisie.

The ECHO understands the Reds are keen to secure the young defender's services but face competition from the likes of Bayern Munich and Ajax.

He is viewed in the same category as Joe Gomez was when the England international signed from Charlton in 2015 in terms of the belief in his potential and it is very much hoped that he would be signing for the long term.

Serie A side Sampdoria bid €2.5million in January for Van den Berg and he is very highly regarded around Melwood with a belief he would also essentially be ready to play for the first-team from day one.



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Also being reported by Neil Jones of Goal (former Echo journalist).

Exactly the right kind of move (imo) if we want another CB for when Lovren (or Matip, but Dejan more likely) leaves. Long-term succession planning, especially as the training facilities are unified moving forward.
ill appreciate this signing in about 4 years!
 

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Isn't signing players under 18 illegal, and the reason Chelsea got banned ?
 



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Isn't signing players under 18 illegal, and the reason Chelsea got banned ?
Not if they're within the EEA. Players can transfer between clubs within the EEA from the age of 16. Any younger and the principal reason for the move cannot be football. For players coming from outside of the EEA (who don't have an EU passport) you must be over the age of 18 unless there is a non-footballing reason for moving to a different country.
 

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Isn't signing players under 18 illegal, and the reason Chelsea got banned ?
There are 3 exceptions to this rule..... this is the important one for this case: (Kopstar also answered above as I was copying this in)

The transfer takes place within the territory of the European Union (EU) or European Economic Area (EEA) and the player is aged between 16 and 18.
In this case, the new club must fulfil the following minimum obligations:

i. It shall provide the player with an adequate football education and/or training in line with the highest national standards.
ii. It shall guarantee the player an academic and/or school and/or vocational education and/or training, in addition to his football education and/or training, which will allow the player to pursue a career other than football should he cease playing professional football.
iii. It shall make all necessary arrangements to ensure that the player is looked after in the best possible way (optimum living standards with a host family or in club accommodation, appointment of a mentor at the club, etc.).
iv. It shall, on registration of such a player, provide the relevant association with proof that it is complying with the aforementioned obligations.
 

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And since when have Bayern developed players :think:

I thought their modus operandi was to steal all the cream off the top of all other Bundesliga clubs when they near the end of their contracts?
They certainly do this in order to stay at the top, but not only.

Schweinsteiger, Müller, Badstuber, Kroos, Alaba. Just a few examples of players developed by the club, off the top of my head.
 

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They certainly do this in order to stay at the top, but not only.

Schweinsteiger, Müller, Badstuber, Kroos, Alaba. Just a few examples of players developed by the club, off the top of my head.
Of course, but these are exceptions rather than the rule. Everyone knows their reputation is to snap up Germany's top talent. Will let someone more far more knowledgeable than me make that list!! :well done:
 



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It wasn't the purpose of the article, but this piece in the Echo seems to suggest he needs to work on the mentality a bit more... Stam saw promise in him but felt he needed to be willing to work harder to improve:

 

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Yay, an actual probable real transfer, on the BBC now.

While he is very ginger, i will not hold it against him.

EDIT: He is only worth £975,000 on Fifa. We look to be massively overpaying here.
#EdwardsOut!
 

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There wasn't much belief in Gomez when he came.If I remember it was just that assistant coach who was saying how he couldn't beieve how little interest there was in Joe. He came out of the blue did our Joe Gomez (even if he was playing for the national U21s).
Why don´t you go for a lie down? Absolute nonsense you are spouting.
 



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Edwards been drinking at that saloon for years.

To be honest getting taken for 30-50% over the value for a footballer from the director of football at FC Zwolle is embarrassing.

One can only fear what would happen if he had to deal with the heaveyweights like that guy from Roma
 

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To be honest getting taken for 30-50% over the value for a footballer from the director of football at FC Zwolle is embarrassing.
Getting conned into sending £2m to a club that doesn't exist should be a sacking offense. :unhappy:

Edit: I mean who doesn't know it's Prins Hendrik Ende Desespereert Nimmer Combinatie Zwolle.
 
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It wasn't the purpose of the article, but this piece in the Echo seems to suggest he needs to work on the mentality a bit more... Stam saw promise in him but felt he needed to be willing to work harder to improve:

That is actually pretty similar to Alexander-Arnold. He was always earmarked as a first team potential player but it was noted that he didn't react well to things not going his way - he would get emotional and aggressive, tackles would be reckless and positioning would disappear. Some days he would go into his shell and wouldn't be able to contribute to the team.

The Academy worked hard with him on that. Beale & Inglethorpe would get Adekanye, as the best dribbler in the U23s, to take him on time and time again essentially trying to break him down and force him to improve his mental reactions.

It has clearly worked well now that we see his performances recently when he has had major setbacks such as Man Utd away.

With that in mind I'm confident Van Den Berg would get good tuition on the mental side of the game here.
 



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