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The Unreliable Rumours Thread

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I imagine the player on loan would need to get himself noticed with a string of good performances. Hard to know if any if our loanees aside from Wilson are catching Klopps attention.

Ryan Kent is playing very well at Rangers. It seems the Gers want to sign him permanently.
 

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Ryan Kent is playing very well at Rangers. It seems the Gers want to sign him permanently.
Have they got that much to spend? I could see a team from the Championship being able to afford more and knowing Edwards he will want around £10m for him.
 

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Ryan Kent is playing very well at Rangers. It seems the Gers want to sign him permanently.
I would imagine Kent and Wilson both get pre-season to impress Klopp and one of them gets promoted to the first team and the other leaves.
 

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Have they got that much to spend? I could see a team from the Championship being able to afford more and knowing Edwards he will want around £10m for him.
I would be very surprised if were to get near that much for him.
 

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I would be very surprised if were to get near that much for him.
He's contracted until 2021 so still a fair amount of time to run. I agree that £10m as a flat fee would be optimistic but a package tied to being able to send them further players on loan, loan fees, playing time, add-ons, sell on % for Ryan etc could be arranged depending on certain conditions. Could be of mutual benefit.

I had high hopes for Ryan but there's definitely something lacking. Probably between the ears.
 

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Maybe not the right thread, but I think Wilson is a mile ahead of Kent.

I would agree that Harry Wilson is ahead but have watched quite a few Rangers games and he has been quite impressive. Maybe the Championship is stronger in depth than the SPL but surely the top SPL clubs would do o.k. in the Championship. The SPL is probably the right level for Ryan to do well at.Maybe another loan while Rangers save up their pennies :)
 

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I would agree that Harry Wilson is ahead but have watched quite a few Rangers games and he has been quite impressive. Maybe the Championship is stronger in depth than the SPL but surely the top SPL clubs would do o.k. in the Championship. The SPL is probably the right level for Ryan to do well at.Maybe another loan while Rangers save up their pennies :)
Ive seen enough from Kent to be confident that injuries allowing he will have a fine career at high enough a level to never have to work a "proper job" in his life if he doesnt want to. Wilson is just in a different bracket though. I think it will be a disappointment if the best he reaches is a "good Championship player". Hell, at this point I think it would be a disappointment if he had a career on a par with Andros Townsend of Kieran Richardson.
 
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Has JK officially said Lallana has an injury? It all seems very mysterious. I watched the pre-match PC for Brighton and he never said Lallana was officially hurt or carrying a knock, just that he was "unavailable". I wouldn't be surprised if he's being moved this window.

Maybe not the right thread, but I think Wilson is a mile ahead of Kent.
I also love young Wilson's attitude. Always positive attitude and always talking about how he can get better because he wants to play for the first team here. He cannot wait to contribute to this Liverpool side. He has all the right mental wiring and attitude to go with his skill. I am a huge fan of this kid.
 

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Has JK officially said Lallana has an injury? It all seems very mysterious. I watched the pre-match PC for Brighton and he never said Lallana was officially hurt or carrying a knock, just that he was "unavailable". I wouldn't be surprised if he's being moved this window.



I also love young Wilson's attitude. Always positive attitude and always talking about how he can get better because he wants to play for the first team here. He cannot wait to contribute to this Liverpool side. He has all the right mental wiring and attitude to go with his skill. I am a huge fan of this kid.
I think Joyce has reported Klopp as saying he was out with injury for the Brighton game
 

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Has JK officially said Lallana has an injury? It all seems very mysterious. I watched the pre-match PC for Brighton and he never said Lallana was officially hurt or carrying a knock, just that he was "unavailable". I wouldn't be surprised if he's being moved this window.



I also love young Wilson's attitude. Always positive attitude and always talking about how he can get better because he wants to play for the first team here. He cannot wait to contribute to this Liverpool side. He has all the right mental wiring and attitude to go with his skill. I am a huge fan of this kid.

We need another attacking option now. I would be quite happy if that were Wilson. Lampard would not be though.
 

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Has JK officially said Lallana has an injury? It all seems very mysterious. I watched the pre-match PC for Brighton and he never said Lallana was officially hurt or carrying a knock, just that he was "unavailable". I wouldn't be surprised if he's being moved this window.
Klopp mentioned something about several players getting ill after the City game... as it's "something that happens this time of year". If there's no mention of an injury but the player isn't "available" that would be why.
 

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We need another attacking option now. I would be quite happy if that were Wilson. Lampard would not be though.
I see that Wilson wasn't in the Derby squad for the game at Leeds. Injured or being mothballed prior to a return to Anfield?
 

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Maybe not the right thread, but I think Wilson is a mile ahead of Kent.
I have to agree with this, no choice you’re completely correct, I thought when Kent went on loan to Bristol City that was a decent choice of club for him and they’re quite attacking under Lee Johnson but, ultimately he didn’t prove to be a catalyst for them the way Wilson is for Derby. Is he only doing well because it’s Rangers?. I think so.
 

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I have to agree with this, no choice you’re completely correct, I thought when Kent went on loan to Bristol City that was a decent choice of club for him and they’re quite attacking under Lee Johnson but, ultimately he didn’t prove to be a catalyst for them the way Wilson is for Derby. Is he only doing well because it’s Rangers?. I think so.
No, i think he is a good player - didnt he have another loan spell in the championship that worked out well? I thnk in Germany he initially looked promising and then quickly tailed off.
 

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The attacking option is to take over from Lallana? The man that played 18 matches in the last one and a half season?
I said nothing about Lallana Eddie. he attacking option is to cover for Mane, Firmino and Salah. If one of those 3 gets injured we have a problem . I do not consider Shaquiri as the answer and anyhow we could quite easily lose 2 at a time, after all we have 3 CB´s injured now, could just as easily be 2 or 3 attackers. Neither Sturridge or Origi are playing well enough to do the job.
 

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I said nothing about Lallana Eddie. he attacking option is to cover for Mane, Firmino and Salah. If one of those 3 gets injured we have a problem . I do not consider Shaquiri as the answer and anyhow we could quite easily lose 2 at a time, after all we have 3 CB´s injured now, could just as easily be 2 or 3 attackers. Neither Sturridge or Origi are playing well enough to do the job.
Shaqiri is the answer, he is why we didnt persue the likes of Lemar etc.
Keita also is very effective (possibly his best performances came here) as a left forward also.

I personally think Origi surrounded by better players will be an asset, just sticking him alongside Sturridge who didnt move all game hardly helps anyone. He came alive when Firmino and Salah came on. So he is an option also.
 
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Shaqiri is the answer, he is why we didnt persue the likes of Lemar etc.
Keita also is very effective (possibly his best performances came here) as a left forward also.

I personally think Origi surrounded by better players will be an asset, just sticking him alongside Sturridge who didnt move all game hardly helps anyone. He came alive when Firmino and Salah came on. So he is an option also.

Spot on!
 

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No, i think he is a good player - didnt he have another loan spell in the championship that worked out well? I thnk in Germany he initially looked promising and then quickly tailed off.
I don’t think he did, it was 6 months with Freiburg then 6 months Bristol City pre-season with us where he did show glimpses of good things when we played Bayern in the Audi cup. Now Rangers
 

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Thanks I also think people forget that Origi, Shaqiri are covering for an injury or two.. They won’t be getting dropped into a brand new 11 including academy players and players not wanting to be here or can’t run etc. Regularly.

Huge difference coming into a wining lineup that is playing well. Which is what said backups would be doing.