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The Unreliable Rumours Thread

KMD1951

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Possibly. Simon Hughes has denied that we tried renegotiating. I think he is fairly reliable.
I guess the facts are that none of us really know why the deal collapsed. I see he's missed 11 Ligue 1 games this season so perhaps there is an issue.

Would still like to see it happen.
 

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I'm not sure on Fekir. Fabulous ability, but all the stuff about his knee makes me a bit nervous, especially as we already have a player in a similar-ish position who had his knee rebuilt and has just missed the season because of it. AOC was starting to really show us something bursting through from midfield, going past them, and shooting. I know Fekir is a bit different a player to that, but I'm not a fan of putting too many resources into someone that has a question mark over them.

Brandt seems a good option in this sort of area of the pitch, and he has a release clause kicking in this summer too, I believe. Sign him plus a fast, goalscoring, versatile winger/striker, and our options going forward look that much better.
 

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If we go back to Lyon in the summer I hope its for Aouer.
Aouar is the missing piece in our midfield, at least in terms of play style. This boy has everything. He can defend, press, hold the ball, clever passing skills, dribbling... whatever you need to fill the number 8 position, he has it. Can also play in the wing, as number 10, the complete package. But I think we kinda missed the opportunity with the Fékir saga (which I think is completely dead) and he must be a very expensive buy (£60m+). Aouar would have been such a great asset.
 

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Article in the MailOnline that Fekir has a gentleman's agreement to leave Lyon in the summer and that we might be in for him. According to the article the deal fell through after we agreed a £53m fee because Lyon pulled the plug. Nothing about failing a medical or second opinion being needed.

This might explain why the poor guy filmed a Welcome to Liverpool video.

Think this would be a great signing if it happened, on the basis there wasn't any medical issue last year. Pretty sure with him in the team this season we'd have a couple more points in the bag and destiny in our own hands.
He had that agreement last year. He even had an unofficial good bye ceremony his last home game of the season.
 

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I do not agree that if we had Fekir we might have had a few more points than what we already do. he isn't that good. He wouldn't even be an every match starter with us. in fact, I bet if we had him against Spurs Sunday he would have been on the bench for example to start the match.
 

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This is honestly the first time where for me there doesn't need to be any signings this summer. Don't think another big money defender is needed as Gomez is finally given his platform to perform alongside Van Dijk, minus his injury. Too many midfielders are in the squad so a couple should be sold. Personally I would sign a number 10 who's world class or near enough and then leave it. Just sell in the summer rather than buy.
 

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Yes, they can.

Having said that, an amount in excess of what we got for Coutinho would buy us 3 or 4 class players and give us real strength in depth.
Just being realistic. I'm sure the club won't chose to sell unless Sadio makes it clear he wants to go to RM.
I'm confident we will just invent another player into Mane's level. All we do is make good players into superstars. That's literally our specialty. Even if Salah would leave (god forbid) I wouldn't worry too much.
 

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I do not agree that if we had Fekir we might have had a few more points than what we already do. he isn't that good. He wouldn't even be an every match starter with us. in fact, I bet if we had him against Spurs Sunday he would have been on the bench for example to start the match.
I think he's the type of player that needs a team to be build around him for him to elevate. So there's a chance he wouldn't be as good for us as he is to lyon. But if he's giving a vital role like Salah, Mane and firmino has for us, he could be a very very useful player for us. He definitely has world class potential under the right conditions.
 

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Aouar is the missing piece in our midfield, at least in terms of play style. This boy has everything. He can defend, press, hold the ball, clever passing skills, dribbling... whatever you need to fill the number 8 position, he has it. Can also play in the wing, as number 10, the complete package. But I think we kinda missed the opportunity with the Fékir saga (which I think is completely dead) and he must be a very expensive buy (£60m+). Aouar would have been such a great asset.
Very good talent indeed, but all that is what I think Klopp wanted (or still wants) to get from Keita...
 

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I do not agree that if we had Fekir we might have had a few more points than what we already do. he isn't that good. He wouldn't even be an every match starter with us. in fact, I bet if we had him against Spurs Sunday he would have been on the bench for example to start the match.
Wasn't suggesting he'd be an automatic starter for us although suspect he would. However, he might have provided the nouse we needed to get the winner against West Ham, Leicester, Man Utd and Everton coming from the bench.

Then again, maybe not.
 

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Wasn't suggesting he'd be an automatic starter for us although suspect he would. However, he might have provided the nouse we needed to get the winner against West Ham, Leicester, Man Utd and Everton coming from the bench.

Then again, maybe not.
We didn't lack nouse in those games.
 

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This is honestly the first time where for me there doesn't need to be any signings this summer. Don't think another big money defender is needed as Gomez is finally given his platform to perform alongside Van Dijk, minus his injury. Too many midfielders are in the squad so a couple should be sold. Personally I would sign a number 10 who's world class or near enough and then leave it. Just sell in the summer rather than buy.
I understand where you are coming from. Our starting 11 is on par with the best sides in Europe. Perhaps we could have a more creative option, but otherwise its very strong. However, I feel like we are always just a long term injury away to Salah or Mane from having our season fall apart. We have been incredibly lucky with their fitness the past couple of seasons. A bit more depth is necessary if we truly plan on being one of the most dominant sides in Europe, and that absolutely has to be the long-term goal of Klopp and the club.

Spurs, Arsenal, City and United will all strengthen next season, as will Real and Bayern etc. The top 6 is so tight, we could just as conceivably win the league next season as we could finish outside the top 4.
 

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I understand where you are coming from. Our starting 11 is on par with the best sides in Europe. Perhaps we could have a more creative option, but otherwise its very strong. However, I feel like we are always just a long term injury away to Salah or Mane from having our season fall apart. We have been incredibly lucky with their fitness the past couple of seasons. A bit more depth is necessary if we truly plan on being one of the most dominant sides in Europe, and that absolutely has to be the long-term goal of Klopp and the club.

Spurs, Arsenal, City and United will all strengthen next season, as will Real and Bayern etc. The top 6 is so tight, we could just as conceivably win the league next season as we could finish outside the top 4.
They will try to strengthen, whether they will or not remains to be seen.
 

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Doesn't everyone try to strengthen in some regard every year? It's not simply a matter of buying whoever you want and improving automatically. There are varying degrees of success and failure.

Arsenal are losing Ramsey and they probably have to replace their backline too...not easy.
Spurs will be desperately trying to stop half their starting XI leaving and have a stadium to pay off
United will splash the cash but their recent transfers have been haphazard at best. Ole's not much of a draw card either.
City...eh, who improves their squad? Unless they convince Messi to join they're close to their ceiling.

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that all of our rivals are better next year than they are now.
 
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I think he's the type of player that needs a team to be build around him for him to elevate. So there's a chance he wouldn't be as good for us as he is to lyon. But if he's giving a vital role like Salah, Mane and firmino has for us, he could be a very very useful player for us. He definitely has world class potential under the right conditions.

yeah, I agree with that too... I just think it's unfair to say that if we signed him in the summer that we would have a few more points because of that. it could be possible but that's basically making him out to have an impact on our team like VVD or something. we have to be careful with that type of expectations.. Fekir is good and I am not saying I would not want him... but Keita to me was just as good player to his team and to his league before we signed him as well. I thought Keita would have a major impact on our team this season and well that has not been the case yet, unfortunately. I still think he will be a good player for us though. I just don't think it's fair to say if we signed Fekir in the summer that could be the difference in us winning the title this season or not... especially considering the points we already have at this stage of the season... is one of our best seasons ever
 
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Doesn't everyone try to strengthen in some regard every year? It's not simply a matter of buying whoever you want and improving automatically. There are varying degrees of success and failure.

Arsenal are losing Ramsey and they probably have to replace their backline too...not easy.
Spurs will be desperately trying to stop half their starting XI leaving and have a stadium to pay off
United will splash the cash but their recent transfers have been haphazard at best. Ole's not much of a draw card either.
City...eh, who improves their squad? Unless they convince Messi to join they're close to their ceiling.

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that all of our rivals are better next year than they are now.
Chelsea... Oh wait
 

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Was thinking about the 2nd goalkeeper situatiion for next year, with Migs set to leave in the summer - what about Neil Etheridge from Cardiff?
 



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I read a snippet somewhere (might have been on here) that Abramovich didn’t renew for an executive box at Chelsea. Might be a sign of his problems with the British Government, or might be an indicator that the project/plaything is no longer of much interest to him. Could be a bit of both.

Here’s hoping that trickles down and Chelsea, from being all but guaranteed title contenders, slip to only a maybe for top four, then hopefully a bit further still. Arguably that’s what we are starting to see.
 

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I read a snippet somewhere (might have been on here) that Abramovich didn’t renew for an executive box at Chelsea. Might be a sign of his problems with the British Government, or might be an indicator that the project/plaything is no longer of much interest to him. Could be a bit of both.

Here’s hoping that trickles down and Chelsea, from being all but guaranteed title contenders, slip to only a maybe for top four, then hopefully a bit further still. Arguably that’s what we are starting to see.
My bet is it would more likely be to do with his visa issues. What is the point in him having a box if he can't come into the country to use it?
 

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I read a snippet somewhere (might have been on here) that Abramovich didn’t renew for an executive box at Chelsea. Might be a sign of his problems with the British Government, or might be an indicator that the project/plaything is no longer of much interest to him. Could be a bit of both.

Here’s hoping that trickles down and Chelsea, from being all but guaranteed title contenders, slip to only a maybe for top four, then hopefully a bit further still. Arguably that’s what we are starting to see.
If this Visa problem persists you can count on him putting this club on the back burner. Abramovich not known for his patience. He won't sell the club just yet, as he loves his money more than anything. He would just get them to do what we are doing - earn to spend. That could see them falling down the pecking order fairly quickly with the way they changed their managers.