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The Unreliable Rumours Thread

Drubas

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Kleberson talking about what a good match Liverpool and Dani Alves Wild be. Doesn't take more than that for media to try to spin it: "Alves wants Liverpool.". Alves doesn't strike me as someone who'd like to be a back up player.
 

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Kleberson talking about what a good match Liverpool and Dani Alves Wild be. Doesn't take more than that for media to try to spin it: "Alves wants Liverpool.". Alves doesn't strike me as someone who'd like to be a back up player.
Was he being touted with a move to City before or after Walker?
 

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Kleberson talking about what a good match Liverpool and Dani Alves Wild be. Doesn't take more than that for media to try to spin it: "Alves wants Liverpool.". Alves doesn't strike me as someone who'd like to be a back up player.
He’s somebody I thought about the other day as a potential option. Could cover either side at full back and potentially play further up if we look to play a 442 at any point again this coming season. Still has a lot of the qualities that have made him an elite player for the past decade. At his age I don’t think he’d be overly concerned about starting every week as long as he got 30 or so appearances over the course of the season.
 

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Kleberson talking about what a good match Liverpool and Dani Alves Wild be. Doesn't take more than that for media to try to spin it: "Alves wants Liverpool.". Alves doesn't strike me as someone who'd like to be a back up player.
He’s not very cleber, that fella....
 

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Cellabos’ turn again today. Not really an area of the pitch we need reinforcement. Not very likely full stop.

 

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"Though with Liverpool crying out for a centre-forward like Icardi, could they be tempted to rescue a genuinely world class striker from his San Siro nightmare?"


Yeah, we're crying out for that, it's so obvious. In the next article you'd probably get from the same author that we have the best attack in the history of football. Really, do people get a wage for writing that sort of stuff?
Plus, Marca comparing Ceballos to Alonso.

lol
 

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You think the club is doing nothing?

There are a lot of people panicking on the basis of no information.
Think you’re confusing people asking questions with people panicking. And there is actually a lot of info out there all from reputable sources all saying the same thing.

I think there a few non-sequiturs in there. What does not not being a full back mean? It certainly doesnt have anything to do with how well he plays when selected there, because he is a damn fine full back. So we are not just making do, we are using a fantastic player in a role he plays exceptionally well. We could spend a lot of money on a new player who is "a FB" and have him end up not being as effective for us as Milner is. See one Moreno, Alberto as an example. To that point I dont think you can say that Robertson will be allowed to go on as if his place is secured. Firstly, that just isnt how things work around Klopp, or to that matter how Robertson would allow himself to act. Secondly, we have already seen Klopp not give two shits about sitting a "real FB" in favour of a player being "played out of position" if he thinks the performances merit it.
It means that Milner is not naturally a full back. He can fill in to a ok level no doubt but he struggles to drive into space and spread the defence on the switch of play as he limited on his left foot. This often slows down our attacks and in alot of cases he stops and checks back on his right to deliver crosses. By which time he defence has shifted and the opportunity gone. I think a naturally left footed player who is a genuine FB would be a better fit. I mean look at Robbo last season he is a naturally left footed specialist fullback and we are a better team when he plays. And im not talking about the odd game here and there I mean Im not comfortable with Milner being our primary option if god forbid Robbo went down and missed a big chunk of the season. Thats my concern. And in the same way we could buy a LB and he could be average we could buy a LB and he could be outstanding. We seem to be recruiting much better of late so i would hope we get it right.

Again if we look at City and how they have built themselves into the Leagues dominant team they have aimed to have two very good players for every position. If we want to compete with them year in year out then we need to be on par with them for squad depth and ensure we have the squad to handle all competitions so a major injury or loss of form doesnt cripple us and ruin our season.

We had one very small blip in our season last season. Mo looked tired scratch that all our front 3 looked tired and the goals dried up and we drew a few games we needed to win and just like that our league lead was gone. Having a high level player to rotate with the front 3 would have enabled us to keep them fresh and rest them here and there and it could very well have made the difference between winning the league and not.
 

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It means that Milner is not naturally a full back. He can fill in to a ok level no doubt but he struggles to drive into space and spread the defence on the switch of play as he limited on his left foot. This often slows down our attacks and in alot of cases he stops and checks back on his right to deliver crosses. By which time he defence has shifted and the opportunity gone. I think a naturally left footed player who is a genuine FB would be a better fit. I mean look at Robbo last season he is a naturally left footed specialist fullback and we are a better team when he plays. And im not talking about the odd game here and there I mean Im not comfortable with Milner being our primary option if god forbid Robbo went down and missed a big chunk of the season. Thats my concern. And in the same way we could buy a LB and he could be average we could buy a LB and he could be outstanding. We seem to be recruiting much better of late so i would hope we get it right.

Again if we look at City and how they have built themselves into the Leagues dominant team they have aimed to have two very good players for every position. If we want to compete with them year in year out then we need to be on par with them for squad depth and ensure we have the squad to handle all competitions so a major injury or loss of form doesnt cripple us and ruin our season.

We had one very small blip in our season last season. Mo looked tired scratch that all our front 3 looked tired and the goals dried up and we drew a few games we needed to win and just like that our league lead was gone. Having a high level player to rotate with the front 3 would have enabled us to keep them fresh and rest them here and there and it could very well have made the difference between winning the league and not
Interesting ananysis that i just can not bring myself to accept as it is.
Milner is a natural hardworking footballer who can play anwhere on the left or right and covers a number of central positions as well.
The idea that Milner has 'problems' using his left foot are over stated what I would say is he instincts are not to take on his man (which I am thankful for as i feel he hasn't the speed for that Btw one of my critics of Robertson is that he doesn't take on his man often enough let's see if he develops that part of his game). So both slow down our attacks.
It is normal that a back up doesn't offer as good a compromise as 1st choice yet Milner offers a lot and enough as back up; Even so yes we need to look into getting someone to back up Robbo however criticising what we do have isn't the way.
As for City yes great they have used Delph as full back Milner is a much better full back fit than Delph. So are your claims about City true, look also at Fernandinho have they had a very good player to cover him? Well ok an aging Kompany who has left. It really is quite a misconception that City have these 2 players ready to come in all over the pitch, just look at their CBs. ;-)
Your last paragraph about our blip would be the same whatever, Klopp doesn't change the front 3 so anyone coming in will always look out of place when replacing one of them. However without having seen Brewster play for the 1st team it's hard for us to have confidence in him so yes perhaps we do need to rienforce this area.
Btw I am not arguing that we shouldn't rienforce we most certainly should none of our players are getting any younger (outside Milner ;-)) i just disagree with your assessment of the players we have and those that City have, of course starting with everyone being fit and healthy, once you start losing players to fitness issues then sure every team starts to struggle.
 
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Posted this in the 'State of LFC Transfers' thread in the media room, but this thread has a lot more conversation around LFC's activity this Summer:

I know it might be an unpopular opinion but I am 100% fine with no signings this Summer. If you sit down and list out the players we have I don't even know where any new signings would play. If anything, it is my opinion we are already a bit crowded in the midfield as it is.

-Maybe a little light in attack if any of the front 3 see any extended injury time
-I guess Millie is the main cover for Robbo
-I believe Wilson will be given every opportunity to contribute

I know it was a once in a lifetime, historical event, but the Barca comeback showed that we can still run with any side in the world, even when missing 2 of the front 3.

All that said, I honestly don't think the club is as rife with cash and some would like to believe. There is very funny accounting in the world of football, and I've seen reports all over the place over the last 18 months. Most of those rosy financial reports were buoyed with the money from the sale of Phil. I am of the belief the Coutinho money was spent on the players we brought in last Summer, and that reshaped and IMPROVED our club dramatically. I think right now the club could probably/maybe afford a player in the 20M-30M bracket. At that point, why bother? Penny wise, pound foolish. See what you have in-house and go from there. I believe if we have another successful league campaign and European run we will spend next Summer. Again, I get where the club is right now. Not trying to be a super-fan, just trying to be realistic. Some fans may not like it, but it's easier (and much more satisfying) to support the players we have here than lament those that aren't.
 

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Posted this in the 'State of LFC Transfers' thread in the media room, but this thread has a lot more conversation around LFC's activity this Summer:

I know it might be an unpopular opinion but I am 100% fine with no signings this Summer. If you sit down and list out the players we have I don't even know where any new signings would play. If anything, it is my opinion we are already a bit crowded in the midfield as it is.

-Maybe a little light in attack if any of the front 3 see any extended injury time
-I guess Millie is the main cover for Robbo
-I believe Wilson will be given every opportunity to contribute

I know it was a once in a lifetime, historical event, but the Barca comeback showed that we can still run with any side in the world, even when missing 2 of the front 3.

All that said, I honestly don't think the club is as rife with cash and some would like to believe. There is very funny accounting in the world of football, and I've seen reports all over the place over the last 18 months. Most of those rosy financial reports were buoyed with the money from the sale of Phil. I am of the belief the Coutinho money was spent on the players we brought in last Summer, and that reshaped and IMPROVED our club dramatically. I think right now the club could probably/maybe afford a player in the 20M-30M bracket. At that point, why bother? Penny wise, pound foolish. See what you have in-house and go from there. I believe if we have another successful league campaign and European run we will spend next Summer. Again, I get where the club is right now. Not trying to be a super-fan, just trying to be realistic. Some fans may not like it, but it's easier (and much more satisfying) to support the players we have here than lament those that aren't.
I am sure we are not short of a bob or two. John Henry said a couple of months ago that the money was available if Klopp wanted to buy. Fact is we do not need to buy a lot. Maybe another attacking player but maybe Harry Wilson will come good. Mid field looks o.k. and to find a back up for Robbo we would need to spend big to find someone better than Milner. Hopefully we will not get to many injuries this season.
 

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What to say. You can see the narrative on here has shifted, from the silence and inactivity from the club, at the beginning of the summer there was a lot of expectation for a number of high profile reinforcements, then Mbappe, now an acceptance we may be going with youth. Its anyones guess, but I know this, Klopp is the best coach in the world right now, he has just come of age with the CL win. Whatever he does, he is always original, and I expect this now. Wouldnt surprise me if we splashed the lot on Mbappe and for the rest went with youth. Its just too quiet, really, really irritatingly so.

Something exciting is coming, you just dont win the CL, come of age as the worlds best manager, and then not build on that. Its just how for long they want to keep us pregnant with hope. My money is still on a big money signing up top.
 

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Hopefully there's no announcement. No promo. Absolutely nothing at all.

We'll just see pictures of the squad in training and we'll all be wondering who the new guys are that look like Mbappe, Havertz and Tierney and the club will have a headline about how the three newcomers enjoyed their first training session.

Hopefully they don't call them the KKK.
 

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The interesting point about the upcoming season and possible purchases. We really are in quite a healthy situation. We really don’t need anyone in particular. Our team overall is still reasonable age wise with no real gaping holes. As I said previously it’s a blessing to be in our current position compared to seasons past where basically every year we were just plugging holes.
 

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There’s a lot of players at the African cup and copa America. If we want any of those we will have to wait until they are over - which the copa America now is
 

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Think you’re confusing people asking questions with people panicking. And there is actually a lot of info out there all from reputable sources all saying the same thing.
Have you seen Twitter lately?
 



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Alves strikes me as a not very good 36 year old former footballer who shouldn’t be a backup to anyone.
They guy just won MVP award in Copa America. He's still pretty damn good at 36. Would be the perfect rolemodel for Trent but personally I rather just stick with Trent as our first option.
 

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soo.... Harvey Elliott..... am i sensing this is what is going to be transfers for the first team? Cause if thats the case, there is cause for concern
 

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soo.... Harvey Elliott..... am i sensing this is what is going to be transfers for the first team? Cause if thats the case, there is cause for concern
Highly doubt that. The kid is thought to be an exceptional talent, but I don’t think he is taking Salah’s spot.
 

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Highly doubt that. The kid is thought to be an exceptional talent, but I don’t think he is taking Salah’s spot.
I think we may be looking to take advantage of other clubs needing to rebuild and in doing so inflate the market for each other. Instead, we pick up players from the younger end of the market and perhaps the older end if necessary, saving the money for when we see a player we feel we must have - possibly next season.