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The Unreliable Rumours Thread

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Livvy

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Oh, finally a new rumour. And.... I've posted already about him some weeks ago in the "who would you buy" thread.

Thinking about a leftback, Philipp Max /Augsburg would be a typical "Klopp transfer" . Pace, beautiful left foot, and most importantly, a very nice, hard working, down to earth guy imo. He would need some time to adept but that would be the case for every new signing anyway.

 

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Oh, finally a new rumour. And.... I've posted already about him some weeks ago in the "who would you buy" thread.
Think I beat you to the punch by about two weeks

What about Philipp Max as someone who could offer cover for Robertson and also versatile to add depth elsewhere? Would probably cost around £20m?

I know nothing of him but transfermarkt suggested as a comparable player to Nico Schulz (who I was prompted to look at by the post in the summer transfer thread).
 

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Guys, I was last here a while ago saying we need to spend more.
we spent money and won the Champions League.
Now you’re all bending over backwards to say we don’t need to improve the squad whilst everyone else is.
How did the years before we spent the spent any money go?

It’s not a difficult decision. Spend and win, or rely on Jones, Woodburn etc. and win f*ck all.

We went out of both cups first round last year - something I was glad about cos I knew our squad wasn’t big enough. This year we have a Charity Shield, Super Cup and World Cup Championship as extra, we’ve lost Sturridge who played games and everyone thinks this squad can cope with that?

Does no one want to win a domestic cup? Without a bigger squad we will never challenge.

The ridiculous comments that suggest no one could get a game in our front three - they’ve all been playing all summer. How long can we flog them without a rest?

Please stop suggesting we don’t need anyone and let’s start considering what are we going to do with all the money pouring into the club unless we do.
Tone it down a bit with the valedictory bollocks. It never ends well.

If you read through relevant bits of the thread, you’ll see that the vast majority of people think we could do with a bit more depth, but accept it is hard to add to this squad and we’ll have to see what the summer brings.
 

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To be fair, I was thinking about this possible signing a couple of weeks before that, but I just didn’t get round to posting!
No one will ever top my robbo, Salah and Fabinho picks from over four years ago.

Or my pick of the litter, Trent Alexander.


Just wish I had of posted it at the time. Trust me though.....
 

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Guys, I was last here a while ago saying we need to spend more.
we spent money and won the Champions League.
Now you’re all bending over backwards to say we don’t need to improve the squad whilst everyone else is.
How did the years before we spent the spent any money go?

It’s not a difficult decision. Spend and win, or rely on Jones, Woodburn etc. and win f*ck all.

We went out of both cups first round last year - something I was glad about cos I knew our squad wasn’t big enough. This year we have a Charity Shield, Super Cup and World Cup Championship as extra, we’ve lost Sturridge who played games and everyone thinks this squad can cope with that?

Does no one want to win a domestic cup? Without a bigger squad we will never challenge.

The ridiculous comments that suggest no one could get a game in our front three - they’ve all been playing all summer. How long can we flog them without a rest?

Please stop suggesting we don’t need anyone and let’s start considering what are we going to do with all the money pouring into the club unless we do.
You were last here in September 2017 telling everyone what a shit transfer window we'd had.

Since then one of the players we signed that window won player of the year with a new PL scoring record, and got golden boot again this year, we've been to back-to-back CL finals, winning the most recent, got the third highest points in PL history, a player we tried to sign in 2017 joined us in January 2018, succeeded the previous player as player of the year and is arguably the best player in the world, certainly the best defender.

During these successes you posted nothing. Welcome back, thanks for the moan, looks like we're doing fine. Cheers.
 
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I rate Rashford but he's never in that company and not a 'generational' talent. Sterling and Sancho are better, Brewster could be too.
I reckon a couple of years of development have been pissed up against a wall, too...

Pretty sub-par environment to be a professional footballer these past few years, for the supposedly 'biggest club' in the universe, no less.
 

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On a serious note, Swedish media are quoting an interview with James Miner, where Milner States that he approached Liverpool regarding an exterminator of the contract last year, and the answer was 'no'. Now the time is soon up and still nobody has contacted Milner about a new contract/extension.
 

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I rate Rashford but he's never in that company and not a 'generational' talent. Sterling and Sancho are better, Brewster could be too.
Honestly speaking, and I hate admitting it with him being a United player and all, but in terms of young English talent, Rashford is probably one of the most natural finishers Ive seen in a long time. With the right supply, that boy could easily be a 25+ striker a season. £250k a week is fuckn ridiculous tho
 

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On a serious note, Swedish media are quoting an interview with James Miner, where Milner States that he approached Liverpool regarding an exterminator of the contract last year, and the answer was 'no'. Now the time is soon up and still nobody has contacted Milner about a new contract/extension.
Milner is highly valued but I don't think the club are going to buy him props from Doctor Who .
 

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I am starting to worry a little, we haven't signed anyone.Or am I worrying unnecessarily?
Shaqiri, Lallana, Keïta all injured. Salah, Firmino, Becker and Mané still on vacation and it will take 6 weeks for them after returning to be truly fit again. The CS is less than two weeks away and the start of the PL 4 days later.

We might start tose matches with Wilson-Origi/Brewster-Kent upfront so yes IMO you should be worried. We should have bought a top-notch attacker.
 

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Shaqiri, Lallana, Keïta all injured. Salah, Firmino, Becker and Mané still on vacation and it will take 6 weeks for them after returning to be truly fit again. The CS is less than two weeks away and the start of the PL 4 days later.

We might start tose matches with Wilson-Origi/Brewster-Kent upfront so yes IMO you should be worried. We should have bought a top-notch attacker.
I think we will be fine. Salah and Becker will probably be back for the Norwich game if not earlier. I wouldnt be surprised if Mane started early too - probably wont need that much of a pre season if he has played non stop for 13 months - Klopp may give him a breather more frequently in the season to compensate.
 

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Shaqiri, Lallana, Keïta all injured. Salah, Firmino, Becker and Mané still on vacation and it will take 6 weeks for them after returning to be truly fit again. The CS is less than two weeks away and the start of the PL 4 days later.

We might start tose matches with Wilson-Origi/Brewster-Kent upfront so yes IMO you should be worried. We should have bought a top-notch attacker.
At least three of those four will start against Norwich. Players don't take 6 weeks to get up to fitness these days - they're essentially doing pre-season with their national clubs and then get a couple of weeks off where they will still be on a strict diet and a tailored fitness regime given to them by Liverpool's conditioning coach.
 

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Team v Norwich

Alisson
TAA Gomez VVD Robertson
Henderson Fab Ox
Salah Firmino
Origi

Subs Mingo Brewster Milner Gini Matip Mane Wilson

Too Soon?
 

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At least three of those four will start against Norwich. Players don't take 6 weeks to get up to fitness these days - they're essentially doing pre-season with their national clubs and then get a couple of weeks off where they will still be on a strict diet and a tailored fitness regime given to them by Liverpool's conditioning coach.
For sure it will take longer than the 12 days they have before the Norwich match. It may be the end of august/beginning of September before they are truly fit and have some rhythm. Meanwhile, there is a big chance of injuries if they play in competitive matches not truly fit.

We simply don't have enough high-quality attackers. We lost the PL title to City and I did not see anyone coming in to make me believe we came closer/overtake them.
 

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Of course we need someone, of course we need new players in the squad. The contention here who we or Klopp thinks are good enough to be those "new players". He thinks Brewster and Ox and players like Lallana to be good enough to replace those gone. He specifically mentioned a need to might buy someone at LB. He is stubborn at times or you can call it principled. But after the season he had, who are we not to trust him?
 

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For sure it will take longer than the 12 days they have before the Norwich match. It may be the end of august/beginning of September before they are truly fit and have some rhythm. Meanwhile, there is a big chance of injuries if they play in competitive matches not truly fit.

We simply don't have enough high-quality attackers. We lost the PL title to City and I did not see anyone coming in to make me believe we came closer/overtake them.
Whilst i agree we should sign a forward I think you are possibly blowing this fitness aspect out of proportion.

The players you have mentioned have mostly played the entire off season. They havent been on the couch scoffing maccas and downing beers, they have been following the off season plans our fitness team gave them and will still be ultra fit. TBH given how much many of them have played they probably need rest more than anything at this point.

Seems to me Klopp wanted to give Origi and Brewster there chance before buying and both have had an excellent preseason. Theyve earned their chance so im less worried about signing a forward than I was two weeks ago. Still like a lb to support Robbo though
 

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You were last here in September 2017 telling everyone what a shit transfer window we'd had.

Since then one of the players we signed that window won player of the year with a new PL scoring record, and got golden boot again this year, we've been to back-to-back CL finals, winning the most recent, got the third highest points in PL history, a player we tried to sign in 2017 joined us in January 2018, succeeded the previous player as player of the year and is arguably the best player in the world, certainly the best defender.
During these successes you posted nothing. Welcome back, thanks for the moan, looks like we're doing fine. Cheers.
I said our squad wasn’t strong enough in 2017. 20+ points behind City and although Klopp performed miracles to get us to the CL final we were running on fumes and unfortunately couldn’t get across the line. Our bench for the final was embarrassing for a club of our size.
Last year the club finally acted and look at the result.

All of the above merely confirms my arguments as valid. At what point do you question your stance?
If you remember I was threatened with expulsion for questioning the lack of ambition, hence my absence.
I didn’t feel the need to come on here one upping after the 2018 final.
But it’s fantasy to think this squad is big enough and good enough for the 5 competitions and Charity Shield and Super Cup.

I hope the club have something big planned for the final few weeks cos if we haven’t you can forget doing anything this year. City will not be worried about Wilson, Kent etc. And they will have to play or be on the bench cos the likes of Shaqiri, Lallana, Keita are perennial injuries.

Maybe they’re stockpiling funds for next year but it’s puzzling to say the least. The best always strengthen from a position of strength.

I will now go back into hibernation so you can flame me to your hearts content, but it won’t change the precarious position we are in at this moment - hopefully things will change over the next fortnight.
 

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I said our squad wasn’t strong enough in 2017. 20+ points behind City and although Klopp performed miracles to get us to the CL final we were running on fumes and unfortunately couldn’t get across the line. Our bench for the final was embarrassing for a club of our size.
Last year the club finally acted and look at the result.

All of the above merely confirms my arguments as valid. At what point do you question your stance?
If you remember I was threatened with expulsion for questioning the lack of ambition, hence my absence.
I didn’t feel the need to come on here one upping after the 2018 final.
But it’s fantasy to think this squad is big enough and good enough for the 5 competitions and Charity Shield and Super Cup.

I hope the club have something big planned for the final few weeks cos if we haven’t you can forget doing anything this year. City will not be worried about Wilson, Kent etc. And they will have to play or be on the bench cos the likes of Shaqiri, Lallana, Keita are perennial injuries.

Maybe they’re stockpiling funds for next year but it’s puzzling to say the least. The best always strengthen from a position of strength.

I will now go back into hibernation so you can flame me to your hearts content, but it won’t change the precarious position we are in at this moment - hopefully things will change over the next fortnight.
You’re the kind of Chicken Little kneejerker that would have had us sign Johnny Evans when Van Dijk fell through. I don’t know how you’ve got the brass neck to claim reflected glory in Klopp’s achievements - a manager who’s ethos is the complete opposite of yours.

The club is in a position of strength right now because it has spent the last three years acting shrewdly, spending only when necessary and making sure the player is right for the club - to the point of waiting it out if necessary.

I’d like that to continue, and if the club do nothing before August 9th it won’t be through contentment or complacency. It will be because in the opinion of the recruitment team, on who’s work so much of our success has been based, the right player isn’t available.
 
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