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The Unreliable Rumours Thread

lfc.eddie

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Is Philipp Max the modern day Bastian Oczipka? Sounds like another someone who nobody saw play, but has a lot of assists, so must be good by default.
Football is all about numbers, you don't have to watch the player these days, just play them computer games to simulate the numbers. Win, and you buy them..... at least that's what I've been told. ;-)
 

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Tease and Bascombe go so well together, especially with his mouse-voice.
 

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Football is all about numbers, you don't have to watch the player these days, just play them computer games to simulate the numbers. Win, and you buy them..... at least that's what I've been told.
The Twitter crowd arguing over prospects is the worst. "Who is Better" style debates. Currently it's all the rage to opine who is better Brewster or Greenwood. Even more sad, the concrete and convicted opinions people have over said players that have played zero minutes of meaningful senior level football and having watched zero point zero minutes of them at youth level. Yet, everyone is a qualified scout. **palms face**
 

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It's a tidbit, but not very specific. It says "plan to" which may or may not happen. Then it says "first-team signing" which is also not very specific. Does it mean a first team signing who will be on the fringes, but still considered first team? Or does it mean an irresistible signing who starts most games when he is fit? And what position are we talking about?

Still, since it's been a lean summer on the transfer front, I'm latching onto this!
 

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He's such a tease. Also the most 'trusted' Liverpool journalist I rate the least. Hope he's right this time.
Just the one mind. Question is, if that is true what position are we buying for, left back or wide forward because those are the only two I can think of.

Left back would very much be an Andy Robbo back up so I'm thinking someone to rotate up top is more likely to be it. And if that player hadn't been at the Copa America or the AFCON then surely they'd be here by now.

Powers of deduction therefore suggest we're buying Pepe.
 

lfc.eddie

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The Twitter crowd arguing over prospects is the worst. "Who is Better" style debates. Currently it's all the rage to opine who is better Brewster or Greenwood. Even more sad, the concrete and convicted opinions people have over said players that have played zero minutes of meaningful senior level football and having watched zero point zero minutes of them at youth level. Yet, everyone is a qualified scout. **palms face**
Not confined to twitter alone, have you taken a stroll into our very own "Who would you buy?" thread? Or even this one.... the difference is, we've got moderators that steps in, twitter is free for all.
 

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If it's one first team signing it could be a toss up - but on the face of it I think he may go for a LB.

FB's are a huge part of our game and I think Larouci and Lewis need more time.

I understand similar arguments can be made for up front - but when you look that we have just resigned Origi, and the development time that has gone into Wilson, Kent, Brewster - they will be given the chance.

I could see us lining up first prem game front three with something like - Salah, Origi, Ox.....or possibly Wilson. I assume Salah will be fit to go based on earlier exit from afcon........Firmino and mane given extra time if needed.

At some point however you have to trust in your investment , and for us that appears to be now. This is the season to see the return on:

Ox
shaqiri
Keita
Plus the youngsters - Brewster, Wilson, Kent
 

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If it's one first team signing it could be a toss up - but on the face of it I think he may go for a LB.

FB's are a huge part of our game and I think Larouci and Lewis need more time.

I understand similar arguments can be made for up front - but when you look that we have just resigned Origi, and the development time that has gone into Wilson, Kent, Brewster - they will be given the chance.

I could see us lining up first prem game front three with something like - Salah, Origi, Ox.....or possibly Wilson. I assume Salah will be fit to go based on earlier exit from afcon........Firmino and mane given extra time if needed.

At some point however you have to trust in your investment , and for us that appears to be now. This is the season to see the return on:

Ox
shaqiri
Keita
Plus the youngsters - Brewster, Wilson, Kent
Ox, Shaq and Keita have hardly featured in a front 3 for Klopp (maybe once or twice each), so we’d likely need to change the system to accomodate them 4-2-3-1). This could be the plan, but we’ve not seen much evidence of it (eg we could play the Ox wide in a front 3 or change the system in pre season but haven’t seen this yet).
 

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Ox, Shaq and Keita have hardly featured in a front 3 for Klopp (maybe once or twice each), so we’d likely need to change the system to accommodate them 4-2-3-1). This could be the plan, but we’ve not seen much evidence of it (eg we could play the Ox wide in a front 3 or change the system in pre season but haven’t seen this yet).
Shaq did a bit last year off the bench and Ox could - Keita I'd never expect to.
Wilson, brewster and Kent are all playing in those positions now.
It may be we start the season with origi, Brewster and Salah up front who knows.

The overarching point of my post is that we have made significant financial and time investments on a number of players, and it would appear the manager now wants to put it to use and trust in it........f we don;t now then we never will........and you then go down the roads of arguments of the point of a youth set up particularly.
 

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amazing how bale has never really been accepted by Madrids fans.
He has more goals, assists, trophies than Zidane at his time there. Really odd.

Would anyone take him at LFC?
 

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amazing how bale has never really been accepted by Madrids fans.
He has more goals, assists, trophies than Zidane at his time there. Really odd.

Would anyone take him at LFC?
I would if he accepted a pay cut to keep him in line with the rest of the squad, but if he were to insist on what his current deal is, then I'd tell him to jog on
 

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The Bale that left Spurs, for sure. I personally think he's lost his passion for the game, not to mention the fact that I doubt his body could cope with Klopp's training or tactics, it would be Sturridge mkII.

I just think a big money, big name marquee signing over 30 clearly on the wane physically is the antithesis of our strategy under FSG, Edwards etc.
 

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amazing how bale has never really been accepted by Madrids fans.
He has more goals, assists, trophies than Zidane at his time there. Really odd.
There are only a handful of players in history who have a better record in the CL/European cup in terms of wins and goals. And he hasn't been a passenger in these win...he has scored the winner in 2 of his 4 wins, and played the entire 120 minutes and scored a pen in a third. On every metric he has been a fantastic success yet there is still this feeling that he hasnt been a success.
 
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amazing how bale has never really been accepted by Madrids fans.
He has more goals, assists, trophies than Zidane at his time there. Really odd.

Would anyone take him at LFC?
A fit Bale yes. The one which seems to be injured quite a lot, unfortunately no.

If he did come I wouldn't want him here on anything like his current wages though.
 

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Definitely would not want Bale. That said, he has been treated appallingly (based on what is public). Could see him go to China for 1m per week but also not sure whether that sort of contract could be reliably enforced when the club gets cold feet after 6 months. Surely a better bet for him to stay put - if he waits 18 months he will probably outlast ZZ. He gets treated so poorly by the club and fans considering what he contributed to them winning their trophies and, excluding the real players of the 1950s when the EC wasn't taken as seriously, only 3 players have won the EC more times - Maldini, Costacurta and thin Ronaldo. Hopefully that fascist club never win another champions league so they won't have to boo the players who won it for them.
 

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Not sure I’d want Bale here.
He ‘s been injured a bit and would want similar silly money to what he is on.
His wages should reflect his value to us,in the event of him coming.
He won’t wear that,and we shouldn’t pay that.
So toddle off Gareth,don’t need you.
 

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No to Bale for me, for all the reasons outlined above. He has been a very good player at Madrid, won loads, scored goals at a level only Ronaldo beats, and yet... somehow if they don’t like the cut of your jib, that’s it.

Arguably the indifference he has shown has done him in. But he won’t care.

If he takes the mo eye in China it will be a great shame, as he’s still a very good player, but he may feel he’s got nothing to prove and he might as well line his pockets.
 

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I hope Bale tells Zidane where to shove his advice, and spends the next three years playing golf at their expense.

At the very least I would telling them to pay him off in full and let him leave a free agent.
 

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The manager/coach is within his rights to not want a player, but then the player is within his rights to want his contract paid up to move on smoothly. Arguably Zidane has played his hand poorly, as he seems desperate to get rid of Bale.

Pay him his contract up, then he can come to Liverpool on a twelve month deal to tide us over before Mbappe arrives. He could live on the Wirral and play golf at Arrowe Park municipal. Didn’t do me any harm. Then again, he might like Caldy with Montse, or he may even get a game at Royal Liverpool if he’s good. Needs to be able to keep it down in the wind though, Shane Lowry style!