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The Unreliable Rumours Thread

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I don’t think that there’s a less “Jürgen Klopp-like” club than Real Madrid.

Except, possibly, the two Manchester clubs.
 


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Barca, Real used to be Big ones. Now are the Reds who dominates the Footballworld. That Dome Journalists can‘t keep quiet with speculations is nothing new. We ll win the Premier League this Year. After that even Shaq ll be valued over 100 m so why bother yourself instead of enjoying the best in Football coming from Anfield.
 

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What’s left for Jurgen after Liverpool? Well, it’s all up to him and what he fancies, but I can’t see beyond Bayern Munich, the German National team, or retirement.

Barcelona and Real Madrid are plastic. Where’s the soul? Jurgen is a flesh and blood excellent man in every regard, and I can’t see him managing either of those two, or PSG, and he won’t take another English club after Liverpool. Arguably there’s Juventus if he wants to try another country, but I’m really not seeing it. He will stay at Liverpool or go back to Germany, in my opinion. But it’s years away!
 

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What’s left for Jurgen after Liverpool? Well, it’s all up to him and what he fancies, but I can’t see beyond Bayern Munich, the German National team, or retirement.

Barcelona and Real Madrid are plastic. Where’s the soul? Jurgen is a flesh and blood excellent man in every regard, and I can’t see him managing either of those two, or PSG, and he won’t take another English club after Liverpool. Arguably there’s Juventus if he wants to try another country, but I’m really not seeing it. He will stay at Liverpool or go back to Germany, in my opinion. But it’s years away!
You never know maybe Japan or China? Rafa has done it.
 



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What’s left for Jurgen after Liverpool? Well, it’s all up to him and what he fancies, but I can’t see beyond Bayern Munich, the German National team, or retirement.

Barcelona and Real Madrid are plastic. Where’s the soul? Jurgen is a flesh and blood excellent man in every regard, and I can’t see him managing either of those two, or PSG, and he won’t take another English club after Liverpool. Arguably there’s Juventus if he wants to try another country, but I’m really not seeing it. He will stay at Liverpool or go back to Germany, in my opinion. But it’s years away!
Imo if he went to Italy or Spain it would be to manage the likes of Napoli or Atleti rather than a Juventus, Milan, Barca or Real. The way I see it, the appeal of being part of a club that has a special connection to the city and the fans within it far outweighs his need to simply put trophies in the cabinet at clubs that can easily buy it year on year without any real long term planning. The whole enterprise for him has to mean something on a deeper level.

Personally think he’ll end up managing Germany at some point and that might be it. I think he’s indicated as much in the last couple of months or so. I’m not convinced he could be arsed to deal with certain elements that are prevalent in both Italian and Spanish footballing culture.
 

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Imo if he went to Italy or Spain it would be to manage the likes of Napoli or Atleti rather than a Juventus, Milan, Barca or Real. The way I see it, the appeal of being part of a club that has a special connection to the city and the fans within it far outweighs his need to simply put trophies in the cabinet at clubs that can easily buy it year on year without any real long term planning. The whole enterprise for him has to mean something on a deeper level.

Personally think he’ll end up managing Germany at some point and that might be it. I think he’s indicated as much in the last couple of months or so. I’m not convinced he could be arsed to deal with certain elements that are prevalent in both Italian and Spanish footballing culture.
Klopp has previously spoken about the importance of knowing the language in a country he is managing in, as it's so important for his connection to the players. And for that reason I can't see him being interested in working in Italy and Spain. German national team is an interesting idea, and would give him more time with his family, but I think he's the sort of guy who wants to be working with his players daily rather than just for 1-2 weeks every few months.
 

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Klopp has previously spoken about the importance of knowing the language in a country he is managing in, as it's so important for his connection to the players. And for that reason I can't see him being interested in working in Italy and Spain. German national team is an interesting idea, and would give him more time with his family, but I think he's the sort of guy who wants to be working with his players daily rather than just for 1-2 weeks every few months.
I agree with this as he is an all-or-nothing kind of person. He would get bored if he wasn’t on it - 24/7.
 

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My hope with Klopp is that if he does need a break every 7 years, we can give it to him - have Ljinders become interim coach for that season, and have Klopp return once he's ready.

I honestly can't imagine (or want to imagine) this club without Jurg at the helm, to be honest.
 



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Not sure if his break every 7 years is aligned with his belief that a coach get less effective the longer he stay at a club (unless there is a overhaul of the playing staff)
 

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I know it's a very unreliable source but this is the unreliable rumours thread and it is from the BBC's gossip page. Anyway, another name to add to the list of players that we're apparently keeping an eye on.
Liverpool are monitoring the progress of 20-year-old Netherlands striker Donyell Malen, who has scored 10 goals in 12 appearances for PSV Eindhoven this season (Calciomercato - in Italian)
 

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The 7 years thing is almost certainly a coincidence.
I agree, I think he goes until he feels he can’t give anymore, whatever the timeframe.

Not sure of the maths on his time here though....

On one hand there’s the extra scrutiny of the English press and the weight of expectation at Liverpool football club which would make the lifespan shorter, on the flip side there’s the extra Adrenalin and .....not money.....maybe prestige/fact it’s the highest play field.......all points to probably a seven year period looking at his contract and squad......

Agree it’ll be a coincidence, but a pretty predictable one
 

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Not sure if his break every 7 years is aligned with his belief that a coach get less effective the longer he stay at a club (unless there is a overhaul of the playing staff)
There will likely be a natural transition/"overhaul" in 3-4 years when Mané/Firmino/Salah/Wijnaldum/Henderson/Matip enter their 30's.
 



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More on this Donyell Malen.
Arsenal are hoping to re-sign Dutch forward Donyell Malen, after he scored 10 goals in 13 games this season for PSV Eindhoven. The 20-year-old, who was sold by the Gunners for £500,000 two years ago, is also a target for Liverpool. (Mirror)
 

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Wasn't sure were to put this but if anyone has a times subscription maybe they could have a look.


Could this cause us problems regarding transfers going forward
 
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The spy gate thing is potentially a concern. Agreement was reached and a line drawn under it, but I’m not sure to what degree things can be opened up again. Also, I’m not sure about the nature of the indiscretion, as at the time we plucked a couple of Man City employees. In high level industry when someone leaves, there are often mechanisms in place to prevent any transfer of knowledge. Sometimes it’s as brutal as being escorted out of the building and so on.

I don’t know if there was a grey area, and the City employees were working their notice and still had access to the database and whatnot.

Anyhow, we paid it off, without admitting wrongdoing, but I don’t know how much leverage there is for it to still bite us. I would imagine Man City will be happy for it to become a story, given their own FFP issues.
 

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What’s left for Jurgen after Liverpool? Well, it’s all up to him and what he fancies, but I can’t see beyond Bayern Munich, the German National team, or retirement.

Barcelona and Real Madrid are plastic. Where’s the soul? Jurgen is a flesh and blood excellent man in every regard, and I can’t see him managing either of those two, or PSG, and he won’t take another English club after Liverpool. Arguably there’s Juventus if he wants to try another country, but I’m really not seeing it. He will stay at Liverpool or go back to Germany, in my opinion. But it’s years away!
He won't countenance a move to Bayern. Talk about a right kick in the gonads for all things Dortmunder! It's the national team job that I fear. A nice part time little earner that one. And let's face it, the man has earned a decent semi retirement. Not yet though. He has many more conquests to make at L4.
 

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The spy gate thing is potentially a concern. Agreement was reached and a line drawn under it, but I’m not sure to what degree things can be opened up again. Also, I’m not sure about the nature of the indiscretion, as at the time we plucked a couple of Man City employees. In high level industry when someone leaves, there are often mechanisms in place to prevent any transfer of knowledge. Sometimes it’s as brutal as being escorted out of the building and so on.

I don’t know if there was a grey area, and the City employees were working their notice and still had access to the database and whatnot.

Anyhow, we paid it off, without admitting wrongdoing, but I don’t know how much leverage there is for it to still bite us. I would imagine Man City will be happy for it to become a story, given their own FFP issues.
city probably marked down that payment as £100,000.000 and it was more likely £! . City aren't making much noise about it for fear of FFP .
 



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This is probably a far cry from a rumor lol But if Sadio happens to become alot more intrigued by Barca or Madrid (which I dont really see happening anytime soon), Mourinho is right, Aubameyang could be the perfect fit on the left...

“I think Aubameyang probably likes to play in the middle because he feels that he can score more goals. But maybe he can score as many goals playing on the left.

“What happens in Liverpool, Firmino drops back, in between the lines. Then he gives more space for Salah and Mane to attack these diagonals.

“I could see Aubameyang playing on that left-side for Liverpool and scoring a lot of goals. Arsenal, Lacazette doesn’t have that quality.”

 

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This is probably a far cry from a rumor lol But if Sadio happens to become alot more intrigued by Barca or Madrid (which I dont really see happening anytime soon), Mourinho is right, Aubameyang could be the perfect fit on the left...

“I think Aubameyang probably likes to play in the middle because he feels that he can score more goals. But maybe he can score as many goals playing on the left.

“What happens in Liverpool, Firmino drops back, in between the lines. Then he gives more space for Salah and Mane to attack these diagonals.

“I could see Aubameyang playing on that left-side for Liverpool and scoring a lot of goals. Arsenal, Lacazette doesn’t have that quality.”

PEA is 30 years old and on something like 300k a week. If we wanted him, we would have done so when Arsenal signed him, or again last summer when they were prepared to move him on.

He also wouldnt bring to the team what Mane does, other than perhaps goals. Mane does a lot more for this team than simply score.
 

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PEA is 30 years old and on something like 300k a week. If we wanted him, we would have done so when Arsenal signed him, or again last summer when they were prepared to move him on.

He also wouldnt bring to the team what Mane does, other than perhaps goals. Mane does a lot more for this team than simply score.
Yeah, I rate Auba, but that ship has sailed a long time ago.
 

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Such a stupid article, borrowing Mourinho's quotes from a post-match analysis to create a "rumour". I guess that's from the rubbish yellow section of the Echo.
 

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So I heard on the internets that Liverpool might be interested in James Maddison of Leicester. Do you feel he would be a fit? Could he slot into that creative #10 role for us?
 



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So I heard on the internets that Liverpool might be interested in James Maddison of Leicester. Do you feel he would be a fit? Could he slot into that creative #10 role for us?
I think he is still quite raw and we would have to pay a premium price for him, likely over £70m, so I can't see it happening.

No one questions his natural talent but his decision making is questionable - there is a perception that he often takes low % shots instead of playing a more productive pass.

Playing with a 10 would also mean a change of shape and I'm not convinced he is good enough for us to justify doing that.

I've just said in the Shaqiri thread that I have a theory that Shaqiri is being moved, in training, to a more central midfield role - if he can handle the additional workload. Maddison would have to do a similar transition and for the money spent it is hard to justify signing someone who would likely sit out most of the season learning to play our system.
 
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Yeah, at the moment it's like that. However, he's young enough to develop further in one of these positions. We'll see what's his next evolution like. A clear single #10, an inside left forward or learns more the both ways of football enough to play as an offensive #8. At the moment he can do a bit of all of that, depending on the style, system, opponent, etc.
 

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Maddison is likely someone considered as Lallana and/or Milner's replacement, but I think the club will probably have Aouar or Havertz higher on their list. Buendia of Norwich is another one who'll probably get some consideration.

Moreover, given that the club apparently passed on Maddison last summer when he was available at a reasonable fee also suggests that they've moved on to other targets.