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If we ever lost one of the front three, even though he scores a hat full of goals I think to the team Salah would be the least of a loss, Sadio would be a massive loss and tough to deal with but losing Bobby that would break me, he is perfect foil for Klopp's system so if we did bring say Werner and Sancho in then if we lose Mo though a loss it would be like a band aid it will only hurt for a little while when you pull it off. For their age Sancho and Werner would be long term for the club.
Still reckon only Werner will come in out of the two though.
Crazy attitude, he is one of the best goal scorers in our history and the league history. Unless he wants to leave we do everything to keep him here as he is in the top 5 players in the world. Any player we got to replace him bar Mbappe is a downgrade at this point.

If we signed Sancho this summer and then Salah leaves the summer after that would be kinda ok as well.
 

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Crazy attitude, he is one of the best goal scorers in our history and the league history. Unless he wants to leave we do everything to keep him here as he is in the top 5 players in the world. Any player we got to replace him including possibly Mbappe is a downgrade at this point.
My opinion mirrors yours with one slight change I've fixed.
 

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Karius "coming back" just means that if he doesn't find a new club, he will start pre season with us. Pearce says Adrian is happy at LFC despite Betis' interest. Also according to him, the plan is to send Kelleher out on loan next season and Klopp needs to decide whether to keep Lonergan or not.
 

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Karius "coming back" just means that if he doesn't find a new club, he will start pre season with us. Pearce says Adrian is happy at LFC despite Betis' interest. Also according to him, the plan is to send Kelleher out on loan next season and Klopp needs to decide whether to keep Lonergan or not.
Thanks. I wasnt expecting us to look to move Adrian on, or let Karius take his place as back up - I just wasnt sure what Adrian's thoughts were because i know he has strong feelings about Betis.
 

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Karius will not be happy to play back up at his age, and he will have better sell on value, so everything points at looking to sell him back. I think European teams will be happy to take him for less than 15m.
 

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Maybe some German club would have him? He knows the league, he was pretty good at Mainz, for example, it's not a big transfer fee... I was kind of surprised that no German club wanted him two years ago, even if his reputation and self-confidence were shattered.
 

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Pretty sure we can hawk him off to the german or austrian bundesliga. Mainz would be ideal for him. He's still young enough in his career to make a comeback in a midtable - europa level club.
 

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I’d be surprised if we got more than 4m quid for karius.
His form for a couple of years now has been poor and his errors are pretty comical (to a neutral).
 

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The trajectory of a footballing career is a funny thing. Karius did well in Germany and seemed a canny acquisition by us. Never the best in the world, like an Alisson-level signing, but it looked good business for 4-5M.

When he broke into the team properly he played 19 Prem games and got 10 clean sheets. Then the ill-fated Champions League final happened. He got his bell rung and was probably concussed, and two errors later (plus Ramos ripping Mo’s arm off in a judo throw) it was all over.

Desperately disappointing on any number of levels.

Still, we circled the wagons and gave our man the nod in pre season. Unfortunately Karius couldn’t shake it off, and he kept making errors. Arguably, if he continued to be the goalkeeper who kept 10 clean sheets in 19 Prem games for us, he might still be our goalkeeper. But the errors were there, and he wasn’t able to leave adversity behind him and move on.

So... we acted decisively and brought Alisson in. You won’t find a single Liverpool fan who is not made up with Alisson’s contribution. He’s the best in the world. Absolutely brilliant. We have a couple of young goalies and Adrian as a solid back up. Karius went to Turkey on loan with a view to buy. I haven’t been following him closely, but clearly he hasn’t been doing well, or else they would keep him. It seems his career has stalled.

I can’t see why we would keep him, but his stock has fallen so low that we might only get 5M or so for him now. If/when he goes, good luck to him. He has the talent to be a high level goalie, but perhaps the mental fortitude isn’t there, at which point he will still make millions form the game, but won’t quite sustain it at the upper level.
 

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I really don’t think he is. Prior to the Champions League final he was doing fine.

His confidence is in tatters. Poor guy.
CL final was a long time ago and confidence is a key part of goalkeeping. He's not mentally cut out for the top. Not particularly good technically either, the lad can barely catch a ball.

He was never great, now he's shite.
 

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Let's be honest, he's a terrible goalkeeper.

He should go and play at a lower level out of the spotlight.
I don't think he is that bad,after he got concussed his confidence was shot and it seems he has never really regained it.
That happens after some injuries to some players,they never really get their mojo back or it could take a long time!
 

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I'll always defend Karius because I try not to have a selective memory. Before VVD our defence was frankly a bit shit. Even in that defence, for a period he was the best in the league. Prior to the CL final I was not alone in thinking we did not need to buy a new GK.

He never recovered from that, and in comparison to Alisson he was clearly not at the top level. But he was never a shit keeper or a terrible keeper. He was average at worst.
He was never the best in the league, not even close.

He was a breath of fresh air from Mignolet for a bit because he was far more commanding, but there were always technical issues with him. He's never been able to catch a ball, his shot stopping was about average and he gave a fair few penalties away.

The CL final has 'broken' him in a sense, but a mentally stronger player wouldn't have been so affected. The concussion was an excuse for that game, it can't keep being used for poor form and comical errors over a year later.

He's just not very good.
 

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He was never the best in the league, not even close.

He was a breath of fresh air from Mignolet for a bit because he was far more commanding, but there were always technical issues with him. He's never been able to catch a ball, his shot stopping was about average and he gave a fair few penalties away.

The CL final has 'broken' him in a sense, but a mentally stronger player wouldn't have been so affected. The concussion was an excuse for that game, it can't keep being used for poor form and comical errors over a year later.

He's just not very good.
Calling his shot stopping average is a bit far in my book. It's easy to say now, but wasn't impressed with him at all before the final.

Mings was always a good shot stopper. That's the base for a decent goalie, can you keep the ball out of the net.

At the highest level, then it's can you control your area, distribution, etc. Karius, for me, never passed the first sniff test, being able to stop shots. So what if he came out father, cleared the ball a few times 20 yards out of his box, and tried to be smart with distribution. Not being able to save routine shots will always undermine any other positive attribute, especially at the top level.
 

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Start of the 2020-2021 Season:

*******************Ali*******************

TAA******Gomez*****VVD******Robbo

*********Fab/Gini*********Hendo*******

Sancho****Firmino/Werner***Mane****

***********Mmmmbappe***************

*Drooling*


Pls God Grant me this and i Won't ask for Any more players for a long time.
 

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Only way I see Mo ending up at Real is if Liverpool sign Mbappe. Mbappe to Real has been in the cards for years and I don’t see how they could afford both.
I have it from a Friend of mine who is Qatari and he told me that Nasser Al khalifa from PSG is a big fan of Mo Salah, Maybe a swap plus 50 Mill for Mbappe would do it? Mo Salah is admired and loved in The Arab world and PSG owners is all about Improving Qatari Image so for them Buying arab hearts by getting Salah is very tempting for them and would make sense (especially if Mbappe wants to leave any way). He told me PSG are keen if Liverpool are and i think Nike might even get involved. The only obstacles i see is would Mbappe agree or would he go to boyhood club Real Madrid.
 

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Mane and Firmino played from the start. And Southampton Mane and Hoffenheim Firmino would cost at least 50 million in today's market and probably quite a bit more. The club are desperate to send out this "fight for places" message though.
 

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Another insightful interview, reiterating what we've been hearing from the club for a while now that will no doubt be ignored by those who insist we can simply sign Sancho for £100m with no potential issues.
We were once happy to go into a season with Danny Ward as number 1 despite hardly playing him instead of Mignolet or Karius the season before. Our club plays poker through the media. I take it all with a pinch of salt these days.

 

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Its not fair to compare him to Allison who is arguably the world's best keeper at the moment.

However, compare him to Adrian (a player released on a free from Westham). I think its fair to say almost everyone would prefer Adrian to Karius.

A confident Karius (if that can be regained) is more suited to a lower premier league club (or a less demanding league like in France). He is still very young for a keeper. But it's in no one's interest for him to return.

The only thing outstanding about him is his hair.